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Postby SSBubbles » Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:55 pm

Oracle wrote:Export? .... :?

Found this personally rather amusing .... :lol: ... and relieved they are changing the name!

Irish women vomit like good English girls
By Ed West .... The Daily Telegraph

I'm in Ireland, where, believe it or not, drink is a bit of a problem. That might not seem like breaking news - but what is different is the way that Irish drinking patterns have gone through a weird process of Anglicisation.

The Irish used to drink in inter-generational groups, which has a civilising effect, while female drunkenness was frowned upon, as were overt displays of intoxication.

Now Irish women vomit at bus stops like good English girls, teenagers booze in packs, and alcohol-related violence has rocketed. Drunken Irish football fans even shout in mockney accents picked up from English TV, which carry a certain chav chic.

What the Irish have forgotten is that sobriety is part of their heritage. The 19th-century temperance movement had a nationalist undercurrent. Its slogan, "Ireland sober is Ireland free", was so successful that even now the country has the highest proportion of teetotallers in Europe.

But that is changing. Ireland is now free, rich, drunk and Anglicised: English shops dominate the high street; that oxymoron, English celebrity culture, is everywhere; British tabloids have taken over; English football is the new religion; and Tesco has "pacified" the country way beyond Gladstone's wildest dreams.

This new Anglo-Irishness reflects a self-consciously vulgar New Brit view of the world in which drunkenness is something it never was before - shameless. Irish booze intake trebled between 1960 and 2000; among EU nations, Ireland is behind only Luxembourg, a glorified duty?free shop.

Last week, the Catholic Church launched a counter-attack. Ireland's new cardinal, Dr Seán Brady, the Archbishop of Armagh, put the case well: "One of the great myths in our culture today is the belief that you can only be happy when you can do what you want, when you want, as you want."

Perhaps it was rather unfortunate timing that the Irish dumped Catholicism just as they embraced capitalism. Free-market economics works only when held in check by boring old Christian ideas such as restraint and deferred gratification. Without these, consumerism just leads to suicidal excess or short-term retail therapy. England failed to export Protestantism to the Emerald Isle. It has had far better luck with nihilism.

Still, at least the Irish have never taken to Stella Artois as much as the Brits. Now the Belgian brewers have signalled the end of an era by dropping the "Stella" from its name, as well as introducing a new, lower?strength beer, Peeterman (only four per cent to Stella's 5.2 per cent).

"Wife beater", as Stella is affectionately known, has become so associated with drunken violence that lawyers dealing with assault charges jokingly refer to a "Stella defence".

Stella became a victim of its own success: like Hackett and Burberry, its expensive image attracted the yobs it didn't want to be associated with. For a while, it was happy to take the yob pound, and became the biggest-selling lager during the mid-1990s. But sales fell by five per cent last year. Pub landlords have found that removing the Stella pump has the same effect as playing classical music at train stations - all the idiots leave. The brand took a pre-emptive step in the summer by withdrawing the drink from some downmarket pubs, giving as its official reason that "the pouring ritual is not being observed correctly", as if it were some delicate Japanese tea ceremony.

Of course, it is not Stella's fault that the British cannot handle their drink.



Oracle, did you add the last line yourself? :roll: :roll: :lol:
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Postby SSBubbles » Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:58 pm

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AQ wrote:In the words of 10cc.

I don't like Stella, I love it!


I thought 10cc only liked Minestrone (with cheese) :lol:



That was cricket. Life was/is a Minestrone served up with Parmesan cheese :lol:
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Postby SSBubbles » Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:03 pm

Eliko wrote:In order to fully appreciate the companionship of 'Stella' one must be prepared to analyse the advantages of such an association.

If one allows oneself the luxury of savouring the delights and appreciating the euphoric rewards of close contact with 'Stella', one will soon find that life (prior to such association) was a far less exhilarating experience.

'Stella' is sophisicated, attractive, very gentle on the taste buds (when caressed in the gentle manner that one such as 'Stella' should be) and is quite demure (if properly treated).

However, incorrect understanding of the powers that 'Stella' possesses, can render the unwary quite helpless when tempted by over-indulgence, by all means one should relish the feelings of intoxication when under the hypnotic spell of the beauty so abundantly inherent in 'Stella', the danger lies in the assumption that one has control over 'Stella', this can be a serious error in judgement and the consequences of such may produce surprisingly strong reactions from the one so misused (or misjudged).

The formation of 'Stella's' unique qualities, were no simple matter, it took many years to perfect and introduce 'Stella' to the more discerning members of those who are able to perceive perfection in it's truest form.

Small wonder that 'Stella' now wishes to disassociate with the decadence that has recently been ascribed to the name 'Stella' due to ignorance and the aforementioned abuses performed by those who know little of the true value of 'Stella'.

Therefore (particularly to the GENTLEMEN among us) I propose a toast, "To Stella, long may we be delighted by the unique and irresistible charm we have ALL had the good fortune to be sprinkled with, due to our contact with such a one, CHEERS 'Stella'". :wink:



Nah! Stella is plain and simple cack! I have never liked it - funny odour and tastes disgusting!
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Postby Eliko » Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:05 pm

SSBubbles wrote:
Eliko wrote:In order to fully appreciate the companionship of 'Stella' one must be prepared to analyse the advantages of such an association.

If one allows oneself the luxury of savouring the delights and appreciating the euphoric rewards of close contact with 'Stella', one will soon find that life (prior to such association) was a far less exhilarating experience.

'Stella' is sophisicated, attractive, very gentle on the taste buds (when caressed in the gentle manner that one such as 'Stella' should be) and is quite demure (if properly treated).

However, incorrect understanding of the powers that 'Stella' possesses, can render the unwary quite helpless when tempted by over-indulgence, by all means one should relish the feelings of intoxication when under the hypnotic spell of the beauty so abundantly inherent in 'Stella', the danger lies in the assumption that one has control over 'Stella', this can be a serious error in judgement and the consequences of such may produce surprisingly strong reactions from the one so misused (or misjudged).

The formation of 'Stella's' unique qualities, were no simple matter, it took many years to perfect and introduce 'Stella' to the more discerning members of those who are able to perceive perfection in it's truest form.

Small wonder that 'Stella' now wishes to disassociate with the decadence that has recently been ascribed to the name 'Stella' due to ignorance and the aforementioned abuses performed by those who know little of the true value of 'Stella'.

Therefore (particularly to the GENTLEMEN among us) I propose a toast, "To Stella, long may we be delighted by the unique and irresistible charm we have ALL had the good fortune to be sprinkled with, due to our contact with such a one, CHEERS 'Stella'". :wink:



Nah! Stella is plain and simple cack! I have never liked it - funny odour and tastes disgusting!



I beg to differ, I consider 'Stella' to be delectable, desirable and superior to the vast majority of others, a simple matter of taste you see. :wink:
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Postby miltiades » Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:30 pm

Eliko wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:
Eliko wrote:In order to fully appreciate the companionship of 'Stella' one must be prepared to analyse the advantages of such an association.

If one allows oneself the luxury of savouring the delights and appreciating the euphoric rewards of close contact with 'Stella', one will soon find that life (prior to such association) was a far less exhilarating experience.

'Stella' is sophisicated, attractive, very gentle on the taste buds (when caressed in the gentle manner that one such as 'Stella' should be) and is quite demure (if properly treated).

However, incorrect understanding of the powers that 'Stella' possesses, can render the unwary quite helpless when tempted by over-indulgence, by all means one should relish the feelings of intoxication when under the hypnotic spell of the beauty so abundantly inherent in 'Stella', the danger lies in the assumption that one has control over 'Stella', this can be a serious error in judgement and the consequences of such may produce surprisingly strong reactions from the one so misused (or misjudged).

The formation of 'Stella's' unique qualities, were no simple matter, it took many years to perfect and introduce 'Stella' to the more discerning members of those who are able to perceive perfection in it's truest form.

Small wonder that 'Stella' now wishes to disassociate with the decadence that has recently been ascribed to the name 'Stella' due to ignorance and the aforementioned abuses performed by those who know little of the true value of 'Stella'.

Therefore (particularly to the GENTLEMEN among us) I propose a toast, "To Stella, long may we be delighted by the unique and irresistible charm we have ALL had the good fortune to be sprinkled with, due to our contact with such a one, CHEERS 'Stella'". :wink:



Nah! Stella is plain and simple cack! I have never liked it - funny odour and tastes disgusting!



I beg to differ, I consider 'Stella' to be delectable, desirable and superior to the vast majority of others, a simple matter of taste you see. :wink:

I think Stella is rather insipid and totaly impudent in that it has no affect what so ever on my palate. Boringly innocuous and rather audacious . Frankly as a connoisseur of fine wines and good beers I think Stella has passed its "taste by date " and ought to be discarded.
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Postby Eliko » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:58 pm

miltiades wrote:
Eliko wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:
Eliko wrote:In order to fully appreciate the companionship of 'Stella' one must be prepared to analyse the advantages of such an association.

If one allows oneself the luxury of savouring the delights and appreciating the euphoric rewards of close contact with 'Stella', one will soon find that life (prior to such association) was a far less exhilarating experience.

'Stella' is sophisicated, attractive, very gentle on the taste buds (when caressed in the gentle manner that one such as 'Stella' should be) and is quite demure (if properly treated).

However, incorrect understanding of the powers that 'Stella' possesses, can render the unwary quite helpless when tempted by over-indulgence, by all means one should relish the feelings of intoxication when under the hypnotic spell of the beauty so abundantly inherent in 'Stella', the danger lies in the assumption that one has control over 'Stella', this can be a serious error in judgement and the consequences of such may produce surprisingly strong reactions from the one so misused (or misjudged).

The formation of 'Stella's' unique qualities, were no simple matter, it took many years to perfect and introduce 'Stella' to the more discerning members of those who are able to perceive perfection in it's truest form.

Small wonder that 'Stella' now wishes to disassociate with the decadence that has recently been ascribed to the name 'Stella' due to ignorance and the aforementioned abuses performed by those who know little of the true value of 'Stella'.

Therefore (particularly to the GENTLEMEN among us) I propose a toast, "To Stella, long may we be delighted by the unique and irresistible charm we have ALL had the good fortune to be sprinkled with, due to our contact with such a one, CHEERS 'Stella'". :wink:



Nah! Stella is plain and simple cack! I have never liked it - funny odour and tastes disgusting!



I beg to differ, I consider 'Stella' to be delectable, desirable and superior to the vast majority of others, a simple matter of taste you see. :wink:

I think Stella is rather insipid and totaly impudent in that it has no affect what so ever on my palate. Boringly innocuous and rather audacious . Frankly as a connoisseur of fine wines and good beers I think Stella has passed its "taste by date " and ought to be discarded.



miltiades, the fact that we are again at loggerheads comes as no surprise to me.

However, I submit that my appraisal of 'Stella' (the peerless one) is precise in every detail and I will brook no contradictions. 8) :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:04 pm

Eliko wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:
Eliko wrote:In order to fully appreciate the companionship of 'Stella' one must be prepared to analyse the advantages of such an association.

If one allows oneself the luxury of savouring the delights and appreciating the euphoric rewards of close contact with 'Stella', one will soon find that life (prior to such association) was a far less exhilarating experience.

'Stella' is sophisicated, attractive, very gentle on the taste buds (when caressed in the gentle manner that one such as 'Stella' should be) and is quite demure (if properly treated).

However, incorrect understanding of the powers that 'Stella' possesses, can render the unwary quite helpless when tempted by over-indulgence, by all means one should relish the feelings of intoxication when under the hypnotic spell of the beauty so abundantly inherent in 'Stella', the danger lies in the assumption that one has control over 'Stella', this can be a serious error in judgement and the consequences of such may produce surprisingly strong reactions from the one so misused (or misjudged).

The formation of 'Stella's' unique qualities, were no simple matter, it took many years to perfect and introduce 'Stella' to the more discerning members of those who are able to perceive perfection in it's truest form.

Small wonder that 'Stella' now wishes to disassociate with the decadence that has recently been ascribed to the name 'Stella' due to ignorance and the aforementioned abuses performed by those who know little of the true value of 'Stella'.

Therefore (particularly to the GENTLEMEN among us) I propose a toast, "To Stella, long may we be delighted by the unique and irresistible charm we have ALL had the good fortune to be sprinkled with, due to our contact with such a one, CHEERS 'Stella'". :wink:



Nah! Stella is plain and simple cack! I have never liked it - funny odour and tastes disgusting!



I beg to differ, I consider 'Stella' to be delectable, desirable and superior to the vast majority of others, a simple matter of taste you see. :wink:



I fear you are confusing the threads again, Eliko :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Eliko » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:16 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Eliko wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:
Eliko wrote:In order to fully appreciate the companionship of 'Stella' one must be prepared to analyse the advantages of such an association.

If one allows oneself the luxury of savouring the delights and appreciating the euphoric rewards of close contact with 'Stella', one will soon find that life (prior to such association) was a far less exhilarating experience.

'Stella' is sophisicated, attractive, very gentle on the taste buds (when caressed in the gentle manner that one such as 'Stella' should be) and is quite demure (if properly treated).

However, incorrect understanding of the powers that 'Stella' possesses, can render the unwary quite helpless when tempted by over-indulgence, by all means one should relish the feelings of intoxication when under the hypnotic spell of the beauty so abundantly inherent in 'Stella', the danger lies in the assumption that one has control over 'Stella', this can be a serious error in judgement and the consequences of such may produce surprisingly strong reactions from the one so misused (or misjudged).

The formation of 'Stella's' unique qualities, were no simple matter, it took many years to perfect and introduce 'Stella' to the more discerning members of those who are able to perceive perfection in it's truest form.

Small wonder that 'Stella' now wishes to disassociate with the decadence that has recently been ascribed to the name 'Stella' due to ignorance and the aforementioned abuses performed by those who know little of the true value of 'Stella'.

Therefore (particularly to the GENTLEMEN among us) I propose a toast, "To Stella, long may we be delighted by the unique and irresistible charm we have ALL had the good fortune to be sprinkled with, due to our contact with such a one, CHEERS 'Stella'". :wink:



Nah! Stella is plain and simple cack! I have never liked it - funny odour and tastes disgusting!



I beg to differ, I consider 'Stella' to be delectable, desirable and superior to the vast majority of others, a simple matter of taste you see. :wink:



I fear you are confusing the threads again, Eliko :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




My friend, such denunciations as we have witnessed in this thread, can only be attributed to extreme jealousy.

The peerlessness of 'Stella' is unquestionable and I maintain my unflinching support against all manner of folk for every statement I have made in praise of 'Stella'. :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:18 pm

SSBubbles wrote:
Oracle wrote:Export? .... :?

Found this personally rather amusing .... :lol: ... and relieved they are changing the name!

Irish women vomit like good English girls
By Ed West .... The Daily Telegraph

I'm in Ireland, where, believe it or not, drink is a bit of a problem. That might not seem like breaking news - but what is different is the way that Irish drinking patterns have gone through a weird process of Anglicisation.

The Irish used to drink in inter-generational groups, which has a civilising effect, while female drunkenness was frowned upon, as were overt displays of intoxication.

Now Irish women vomit at bus stops like good English girls, teenagers booze in packs, and alcohol-related violence has rocketed. Drunken Irish football fans even shout in mockney accents picked up from English TV, which carry a certain chav chic.

What the Irish have forgotten is that sobriety is part of their heritage. The 19th-century temperance movement had a nationalist undercurrent. Its slogan, "Ireland sober is Ireland free", was so successful that even now the country has the highest proportion of teetotallers in Europe.

But that is changing. Ireland is now free, rich, drunk and Anglicised: English shops dominate the high street; that oxymoron, English celebrity culture, is everywhere; British tabloids have taken over; English football is the new religion; and Tesco has "pacified" the country way beyond Gladstone's wildest dreams.

This new Anglo-Irishness reflects a self-consciously vulgar New Brit view of the world in which drunkenness is something it never was before - shameless. Irish booze intake trebled between 1960 and 2000; among EU nations, Ireland is behind only Luxembourg, a glorified duty?free shop.

Last week, the Catholic Church launched a counter-attack. Ireland's new cardinal, Dr Seán Brady, the Archbishop of Armagh, put the case well: "One of the great myths in our culture today is the belief that you can only be happy when you can do what you want, when you want, as you want."

Perhaps it was rather unfortunate timing that the Irish dumped Catholicism just as they embraced capitalism. Free-market economics works only when held in check by boring old Christian ideas such as restraint and deferred gratification. Without these, consumerism just leads to suicidal excess or short-term retail therapy. England failed to export Protestantism to the Emerald Isle. It has had far better luck with nihilism.

Still, at least the Irish have never taken to Stella Artois as much as the Brits. Now the Belgian brewers have signalled the end of an era by dropping the "Stella" from its name, as well as introducing a new, lower?strength beer, Peeterman (only four per cent to Stella's 5.2 per cent).

"Wife beater", as Stella is affectionately known, has become so associated with drunken violence that lawyers dealing with assault charges jokingly refer to a "Stella defence".

Stella became a victim of its own success: like Hackett and Burberry, its expensive image attracted the yobs it didn't want to be associated with. For a while, it was happy to take the yob pound, and became the biggest-selling lager during the mid-1990s. But sales fell by five per cent last year. Pub landlords have found that removing the Stella pump has the same effect as playing classical music at train stations - all the idiots leave. The brand took a pre-emptive step in the summer by withdrawing the drink from some downmarket pubs, giving as its official reason that "the pouring ritual is not being observed correctly", as if it were some delicate Japanese tea ceremony.

Of course, it is not Stella's fault that the British cannot handle their drink.



Oracle, did you add the last line yourself? :roll: :roll: :lol:


Astonishingly enough, I did not! ...... Please check the original Telegraph post ... :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:23 pm

Eliko wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Eliko wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:
Eliko wrote:In order to fully appreciate the companionship of 'Stella' one must be prepared to analyse the advantages of such an association.

If one allows oneself the luxury of savouring the delights and appreciating the euphoric rewards of close contact with 'Stella', one will soon find that life (prior to such association) was a far less exhilarating experience.

'Stella' is sophisicated, attractive, very gentle on the taste buds (when caressed in the gentle manner that one such as 'Stella' should be) and is quite demure (if properly treated).

However, incorrect understanding of the powers that 'Stella' possesses, can render the unwary quite helpless when tempted by over-indulgence, by all means one should relish the feelings of intoxication when under the hypnotic spell of the beauty so abundantly inherent in 'Stella', the danger lies in the assumption that one has control over 'Stella', this can be a serious error in judgement and the consequences of such may produce surprisingly strong reactions from the one so misused (or misjudged).

The formation of 'Stella's' unique qualities, were no simple matter, it took many years to perfect and introduce 'Stella' to the more discerning members of those who are able to perceive perfection in it's truest form.

Small wonder that 'Stella' now wishes to disassociate with the decadence that has recently been ascribed to the name 'Stella' due to ignorance and the aforementioned abuses performed by those who know little of the true value of 'Stella'.

Therefore (particularly to the GENTLEMEN among us) I propose a toast, "To Stella, long may we be delighted by the unique and irresistible charm we have ALL had the good fortune to be sprinkled with, due to our contact with such a one, CHEERS 'Stella'". :wink:



Nah! Stella is plain and simple cack! I have never liked it - funny odour and tastes disgusting!



I beg to differ, I consider 'Stella' to be delectable, desirable and superior to the vast majority of others, a simple matter of taste you see. :wink:



I fear you are confusing the threads again, Eliko :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




My friend, such denunciations as we have witnessed in this thread, can only be attributed to extreme jealousy.

The peerlessness of 'Stella' is unquestionable and I maintain my unflinching support against all manner of folk for every statement I have made in praise of 'Stella'. :wink:



In your honest opinion ofcourse. :lol:
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