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[miltiades]

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Looking at the results , apart from THE THREE well known Plonkers , 4 other Plonkers considered me to be a traitor , why because I have stretched my hand out and reached for my T/Cs compatriots , because I have rejected the notion that the ONLY option available to liberate the occupied part of Cyprus is WAR , because I did not accept for one second that WAR could achieve anything but devastation for our island , because I laughed t at the ridiculous assumption that Cyprus , with he help of mercenaries !!!! could defeat Turkey and strike deep into Southern Turkey , while at the same time our forces were dealing with the 40 thousand Turkish troops , sorting out the settlers and presumably the T/Cs too.To imagine that these absurd notions were put forward by people with a respectable level of education , educated fools.
Now who the hell are the other 4 plonkers , let them come forward , to accuse some one of being a traitor to his country is a serious matter , so let the 4 Plonkers , if they have the balls that is come forward.

Needless to say the vast majority rejected the idea .

Someone complained that the forum is getting a little boring , let us liven it up a little now , go on you miserable plonkers show your ugly faces, Mil is here to knock some sense into your heads !!!

Total misinterpretations and lies. I am back and I will be livening up your day so keep your blood pressure medication close by, just in case!!

There is nothing wrong with my blood pressure mate .
As for the "lies" which ones mate , your nonsense I suppose that I'm a traitor , nonsense that mostly all disagreed .?
Now you are back do try and stay and do also try and be constructive not destructive.
When is Rambo back ?

[miltiades]

why are you conducting a poll about whether or not you're a traitor?

Simple , I will give an example.
The arseholes who made these accusations against me did so on a public forum , such an accusation is quite serious and I took upon my self to ridicule their accusations and to throw it back at their ugly faces .These individuals have a lot of following on this forum , you for instance who was the 7th individual to cast your vote , the second one in fact is a great admirer of one of the individuals in question. Who the hell do they think they are making such accusations on a public forum and also presuming that I would just take it !!
I don't give a toss if they are not here to defend their indefensible garbage.
I don't really care if you are O or not , I quite liked her and admired her highly developed wit but always considered her as a liability to the Cyprus cause.

How do you know I cast a vote?

Just a guess !!

[Brittania]

This thread is now officially closed having run its 7 day time.
Looking at the results , apart from THE THREE well known Plonkers , 4 other Plonkers considered me to be a traitor , why because I have stretched my hand out and reached for my T/Cs compatriots , because I have rejected the notion that the ONLY option available to liberate the occupied part of Cyprus is WAR , because I did not accept for one second that WAR could achieve anything but devastation for our island , because I laughed t at the ridiculous assumption that Cyprus , with he help of mercenaries !!!! could defeat Turkey and strike deep into Southern Turkey , while at the same time our forces were dealing with the 40 thousand Turkish troops , sorting out the settlers and presumably the T/Cs too.To imagine that these absurd notions were put forward by people with a respectable level of education , educated fools.
Now who the hell are the other 4 plonkers , let them come forward , to accuse some one of being a traitor to his country is a serious matter , so let the 4 Plonkers , if they have the balls that is come forward.

Needless to say the vast majority rejected the idea .

Someone complained that the forum is getting a little boring , let us liven it up a little now , go on you miserable plonkers show your ugly faces, Mil is here to knock some sense into your heads !!!

Total misinterpretations and lies. I am back and I will be livening up your day so keep your blood pressure medication close by, just in case!!

There is nothing wrong with my blood pressure mate .
As for the "lies" which ones mate , your nonsense I suppose that I'm a traitor , nonsense that mostly all disagreed .?
Now you are back do try and stay and do also try and be constructive not destructive.
When is Rambo back ?

You're getting it from Paphos now?

[Paphitis]

This thread is now officially closed having run its 7 day time.
Looking at the results , apart from THE THREE well known Plonkers , 4 other Plonkers considered me to be a traitor , why because I have stretched my hand out and reached for my T/Cs compatriots , because I have rejected the notion that the ONLY option available to liberate the occupied part of Cyprus is WAR , because I did not accept for one second that WAR could achieve anything but devastation for our island , because I laughed t at the ridiculous assumption that Cyprus , with he help of mercenaries !!!! could defeat Turkey and strike deep into Southern Turkey , while at the same time our forces were dealing with the 40 thousand Turkish troops , sorting out the settlers and presumably the T/Cs too.
To imagine that these absurd notions were put forward by people with a respectable level of education , educated fools.
Now who the hell are the other 4 plonkers , let them come forward , to accuse some one of being a traitor to his country is a serious matter , so let the 4 Plonkers , if they have the balls that is come forward.

Needless to say the vast majority rejected the idea .

Someone complained that the forum is getting a little boring , let us liven it up a little now , go on you miserable plonkers show your ugly faces, Mil is here to knock some sense into your heads !!!

I am challenging you to prove your ridiculous statement above. No one has stated that war is the only option but you keep misinterpreting other persons arguments (who are not here to defend themselves) to suit you.

I will say this. You are the most damaging and destructive person on this forum!!!

[EPSILON]

Recently irresponsible people have accused me of being a traitor to my country of birth , the island of Cyprus based on my refusal to accept that war is the only option left for a Cyprus solution and my refusal to put all blame on the T/Cs for our current predicament.
Since joining this forum , the first ever forum I have ever joined , I have strived to reach for the "other side " and in my humble opinion ( Sorry Eliko ) build little bridges of trust believing that this is the only way forward for a just and peaceful solution to our problems , taking always account of the future generation of Cypriots likely concerns , hence my opposition to the AP.
I give my word that if this poll attracts a majority of votes agreeing that I'm a traitor then I shall hang my head in shame and withdraw for ever not only from this forum but from all political debates.
In days gone by those accused by Kangaroo courts of being traitors were simply shot .

No court can just you as trator , neither me.
All people have the right of their opinion , including worst than you, myself!!

However dear Meltiades if someone stole your house/ your destiny / your culture/your routes / your history and you consider that only way to find a solution is to give him what he request then.. you just became a citizen of a "Banania" state.

The Turks and these who became T/Cs for various reasons, appeared suddently in the Island and slowly,slowly, obtained rights which, in order to be satisfied, we must change our History/ our Destiny / our Ethnicity.

With some internal help (theoritical by AKEL- and practical by Greek Junta) they suceeded to convist a substantial part of our population (including you) that the only solution is to give up. To change and accept everything just to have some more millioners in G/Cs society./

Unfortunately, history proved that freedom of a person or of a Nation can not be obtained under such circustances.

An invator who won a war can sign a peace agreement only if he writes the terms!!!

Our leaders for almoast 40 years now are just trying to guide our people,including you, to accept the terms of the winner of the war by additing some chockolate on top. (i.e. one citizenship, one nationality) and other beautiful words.

[miltiades]

Recently irresponsible people have accused me of being a traitor to my country of birth , the island of Cyprus based on my refusal to accept that war is the only option left for a Cyprus solution and my refusal to put all blame on the T/Cs for our current predicament.
Since joining this forum , the first ever forum I have ever joined , I have strived to reach for the "other side " and in my humble opinion ( Sorry Eliko ) build little bridges of trust believing that this is the only way forward for a just and peaceful solution to our problems , taking always account of the future generation of Cypriots likely concerns , hence my opposition to the AP.
I give my word that if this poll attracts a majority of votes agreeing that I'm a traitor then I shall hang my head in shame and withdraw for ever not only from this forum but from all political debates.
In days gone by those accused by Kangaroo courts of being traitors were simply shot .

No court can just you as traitor , neither me.
All people have the right of their opinion , including worst than you, myself!!

However dear Meltiades if someone stole your house/ your destiny / your culture/your routes / your history and you consider that only way to find a solution is to give him what he request then.. you just became a citizen of a "Banania" state.

The Turks and these who became T/Cs for various reasons, appeared suddently in the Island and slowly,slowly, obtained rights which, in order to be satisfied, we must change our History/ our Destiny / our Ethnicity.

With some internal help (theoritical by AKEL- and practical by Greek Junta) they suceeded to convist a substantial part of our population (including you) that the only solution is to give up. To change and accept everything just to have some more millioners in G/Cs society./

Unfortunately, history proved that freedom of a person or of a Nation can not be obtained under such circustances.

An invator who won a war can sign a peace agreement only if he writes the terms!!!

Our leaders for almoast 40 years now are just trying to guide our people,including you, to accept the terms of the winner of the war by additing some chockolate on top. (i.e. one citizenship, one nationality) and other beautiful words.

I'm proud of my ethnicity , that of a G/C but with the emphasis on Cypriot. I consider my self privileged to have come across like minded Cypriots such as Bir , Kikapu , Deniz , and many more who all consider themselves , just as I do , Cypriot above all. There is no shame in being a Cypriot as you seem to think , we were on this island long before the Greeks or the Turks arrive.
You are also wrong about our leaders encouraging us to to capitulate to the "winner" of the war . We shall NEVER accept that a part of our island will be absorbed by a foreign power . Turkey knows this very well and so do the enemies of Cyprus.
We are not for sale , our sovereignty stretches throughout Cyprus , every step and every road is Cyprus .
Our land is not negotiable and neither is our ethnicity , the Cypriot ethnicity.

[Floda]

I'm proud of my ethnicity , that of a G/C but with the emphasis on Cypriot. I consider my self privileged to have come across like minded Cypriots such as Bir , Kikapu , Deniz , and many more who all consider themselves , just as I do , Cypriot above all. There is no shame in being a Cypriot as you seem to think , we were on this island long before the Greeks or the Turks arrive.
You are also wrong about our leaders encouraging us to to capitulate to the "winner" of the war . We shall NEVER accept that a part of our island will be absorbed by a foreign power . Turkey knows this very well and so do the enemies of Cyprus.
We are not for sale , our sovereignty stretches throughout Cyprus , every step and every road is Cyprus .
Our land is not negotiable and neither is our ethnicity , the Cypriot ethnicity.

Yeah, with the corner up !.

[repulsewarrior]

...food for thought.

[Garavnoss]

...food for thought.

Food for thought indeed repulsewarrior, when one considers the strength of allegiance which NOW exists between the two great adversaries of the past Miltiades and Paphitis.

An interesting case study for a psychologist when one considers the manner in which these two members have managed to influence each other over the past few years and what an extraordinary heading for a poll !.

Given that we now know (or at least should know) that the Cypriot problem is indisputably the result of American/British and Israeli political and military planning and action, it is abundantly clear that ANY support of political or military action by those powers which directly (or indirectly) has an influence on Cyprus (or elsewhere in the Middle East) must be regarded as "Traitorous".

Therefore, any person that supports the inhuman actions of the aforementioned powers, must join Miltiades and adorn themselves in the same uniform as he, the uniform of a "Traitor" to his own country and a spectacle of derision in that he actually spent the greater part of his life living in perfect harmony in the land of his OWN (so he professes) country's enemies.

Paphitis may also join with his new found counterpart, as may any others who openly sanction the disgusting actions of the military and political campaigns of the "Terrorist Organizations" of the mighty three.

Well spotted repulsewarrior, I have studied many past topics and would mention that this forum has seen much better days.

Footnote:- If any uniforms are required, I am sure there are enough Jewish tailors on forum to accommodate any demand.

[Paphitis]

...food for thought.

Food for thought indeed repulsewarrior, when one considers the strength of allegiance which NOW exists between the two great adversaries of the past Miltiades and Paphitis.

An interesting case study for a psychologist when one considers the manner in which these two members have managed to influence each other over the past few years and what an extraordinary heading for a poll !.

Given that we now know (or at least should know) that the Cypriot problem is indisputably the result of American/British and Israeli political and military planning and action, it is abundantly clear that ANY support of political or military action by those powers which directly (or indirectly) has an influence on Cyprus (or elsewhere in the Middle East) must be regarded as "Traitorous".

Therefore, any person that supports the inhuman actions of the aforementioned powers, must join Miltiades and adorn themselves in the same uniform as he, the uniform of a "Traitor" to his own country and a spectacle of derision in that he actually spent the greater part of his life living in perfect harmony in the land of his OWN (so he professes) country's enemies.

Paphitis may also join with his new found counterpart, as may any others who openly sanction the disgusting actions of the military and political campaigns of the "Terrorist Organizations" of the mighty three.

Well spotted repulsewarrior, I have studied many past topics and would mention that this forum has seen much better days.

Footnote:- If any uniforms are required, I am sure there are enough Jewish tailors on forum to accommodate any demand.

Another who needs their meds.

Firstly may I remind you that I have no allegiances on this forum as I abandoned those long ago.

I do however recognize the bull when I read it and Israel has had absolutely nothing or no significant role to play in the Cyprus Problem. That is just pure fact.

You obviously feel that this is not the case and that they are responsible, in which case I would be interested to see the evidence you have to sway me that you are correct.

It's got nothing to do with being a traitor. One could say that Russia is responsible or Australia is responsible but please provide the evidence.

And I got to say, Russia is far more responsible than Israel as it was then a cold war agitator trying to provoke a war between Greece and Turkey for its own purposes.

As to the USA and UK, yeh sure they played a role. At least there is evidence there for you to work with as opposed to Israel which I have found no such evidence ever.

The UK on the one hand was actually debating on sending troops to Cyprus to act as a Guarantor and the first troops did arrive on the island for that purpose - Royal Marines, Gurkhas and Australian SAS. There was even a document sent to the Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade asking for Australian military involvement in Cyprus which would initially be used for the protection and defence of the SBAs and for possible conflict against Turkey. The then British Foreign Secretary was positioning himself for possible conflict in Cyprus and possible war against Turkey.

These records are now public information and the transcripts of many conversations with Kissinger are now published in the public domain.

But something else which is very evident is the fcat that even the Americans were not responsible for the 1974 Coup. They were mere opportunists.