Paphitis wrote:Garavnoss wrote:Paphitis wrote:" Incidentally, I think it would require a great deal less courage to drop a bomb from a warplane than it would to detonate an explosive device strapped around one's waist."
Completely irrelevant and bogus comparison.
Pilots are trained to do a job. The job requires them to generally do things for the greater good. For instance, pilots are instructed to avoid civilian casualties.
to deliberately drop bombs knowing there are civilians, is a war crime, and a violation against engagement rules. pilots can bug out at any time if there is doubt.
A suicide bomber is just a crazed idiot who has been radicalized to such a point where they will kill themselves in order to kill many more civilians. They are not brave. Just idiots.
Pilots generally do not want to kill themselves or other innocent persons.
Anymore nonsense from Garos?
Deliberate lies perpetrated by the Bush/Blair administrations were the catalyst which sanctioned the "Shock and Awe" attack upon the sleeping population of Baghdad, it was assumed that such an attack would ((as did the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs upon Japan) force the Iraqi forces to capitulate.
The ploy did not work quite as planned and what we are now seeing is the direct result of the "Shock and Awe" tactics which did not produce quite the results expected.
The airborne attacks were cowardly and everyone knows it, the pilots who flew the missions could not possibly target anything other than civilians (mostly) and everyone (with a modicum of intelligence) knows it.
Every death in the Middle East that has occurred since that terrible onslaught (by whosoever and from whatever source) can surely be attributed to those actions UNLESS, we are prepared to believe that the purpose of the actions was to protect the general population
from bullying tyrants.
An interesting choice for the unfortunates who are now suffering, "Which BULLY do you prefer, the one who has held the country fast for many years or the one who has razed your cities and villages to the ground and murdered your countrymen by the millions?".
Every uprising since "Shock and Awe" is deeply rooted in it, the Jihadi fighters are demonstrating that the "Hornets Nest" has been disturbed and the buzzing will not cease until "Justice" prevails, those who have taken up the gauntlet thrown down before them are worthy of praise for their courage, it is a pure courage which does not exist in the breasts of their opponents who rely upon vastly superior military strength for their success, time will tell and the forces which oppose the oppression of US/UK/Israel and any other,
will teach them, even at the cost of their own lives, that the BULLY will always get his comeuppance.
We live in interesting times, the Western influenced populations are mostly sleeping, lulled into believing that their governments are acting on their behalf, whilst those of other regions are waking up to the realities of what has been done to them by the sleepers.
May Allah preserve us from the fury that awaits those who are oblivious to that which the "Scales of Justice" demand.
Shock and Awe was the term used in 1991 and in context it was to only imply that the regime would be hit where it did not expect to be hit and from weapons technologies that have not been used in anger before.
Things like Suddam's palaces were hit, government buildings of senior Government officials and so on. There was never any shock and awe against civilians.
And I would like to know the plan which did not go according to the script. Baghdad is not the place to go about killing civilians and try to keep it from the world.
The main objective was to liberate Kuwait. But they rattled Suddam's cage and that has a psychological objective against the regime and their military.
And Garos, you're the coward because all you can do is talk about the cowardice of Pilots from behind a keyboard and in complete anonimity. Oh yes my friend. Just remember next time you're on a flight sitting in your economy seat. Chances are your Captain was one of those cowards who once may have dropped bombs. Your life in their hands.
So sit back, relax and enjoy your flight!
I must immediately protest, I NEVER fly economy class, how dare you offer such insult ?, disgraceful.
As to the rest of your responses to my post, you are obviously committed to uphold the opinions of those you consider to be the victors in the conflicts of the past, you are perfectly entitled to do so and your views will attract (have attracted) like-minded pundits of the art of deception in warfare.
Unfortunately, you seem to be unable to concede (as do those like-minded others) that terrible war crimes were committed in the furtherance of the many campaigns of destruction which attended the oppressive military actions of the Western forces.
You also seem to be unable to grasp the fact that the oppressed are entitled to retaliate and are doing so quite effectively, were they not, the Western powers would have achieved their objectives by now (which they have not) and the future is looking grim for them according to the latest bulletins.
Now that the forces of opposition to Western dictatorship (laughingly referred to as Democracy) have decided to rid themselves of the shackles imposed upon them, they have risen up in many regions of the world where the same brutal interference of Western powers is producing a society which is not wanted, is less respectable and in many ways inferior to that which existed prior to the interference.
The Jihadis wish to rid their lands of this Western dictatorship, they want revenge for the murderous injustices they have suffered, they are a determined force, increasing in strength and popularity wherever they advance or make a stand, they WILL prevail, make no mistake, the "Hornets " are a-stinging and you may be next to feel the pain of the barb.
