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IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

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DO YOU CONSIDER MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:05 pm

YES
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NO
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:13 am

Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:So the USA intervened militarily in Egypt, and Tunisia?

When?

And of course Afghanistan is better off. Just ask any Afghan.

Tunisia has a democratically elected secular Government and is becomming a bit of a model country.

Iraq is without Suddam and soon DAESH will be defeated there.

But to answer you, it is not Americas job to intervene in every trouble spot. Usually all these actions were as a result of UN Resolutions and it was many countries that acted in coalition.

Maybe you should speak to the UN.



It would be remiss of anyone to ignore some of the valid points you make and it would be foolish to counter them with denial, however, I feel that far too many opinions presented on this forum are those which have been expressed (in other words perhaps) by those who make capital out of encouraging the allegiance of others (namely politicians).

The devastation of the homes of millions of unfortunates that are currently forced to flee the "War Zones" of the world in order to preserve their very lives, the indiscriminate slaughter of millions who could not flee and the justifications of both as presented by those who are responsible (whosoever they may be) is a sad indictment for ALL of us.

It might help if people voiced their objections and disgust to their military and political leaders rather than adhere to their agendas, I know that there have been occasions where such sentiments have been proffered and ignored BUT, I personally feel quite ashamed when I read some of the "Gung Ho" comments that are posted in support of the mayhem taking place in once "Less Volatile" regions.

Let us attend to the welfare of our own cultures (such as they may be) and leave others to attend to theirs..... respectfully.


Yes ok but the millions who flee their homes from war zones are predominately not as a result of any action by the USA or the coalition either militarily or politically.

For instance, there are 2 million Syrian Refugees alone. The USA has never got involved in that conflict until recently and even now the focus is against DAESH and not the Syrian Regime. The vast majority have abandoned their homes due to radical Islamists.

The general consensus in North America, Europe, Australia etc is that the vast majority support the intervention against DAESH. In fact, there would have been disgust if there was no action to this humanitarian disaster.

Let us attend to the welfare of our own cultures (such as they may be) and leave others to attend to theirs..... respectfully.


This is what we are doing.

The genocidal DAESH have other ideas so we need to destroy them to protect others groups - Christians, SHIA and Kurds.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:47 am

" Incidentally, I think it would require a great deal less courage to drop a bomb from a warplane than it would to detonate an explosive device strapped around one's waist."

The above was ....eloquently presented by none other than GR, his professed adoration of savages who blow themselves up.... with so much valiant , is well known on this forum. What he fails to remember is that where as the fighter pilot who drops bombs has no sexual ulterior motives unlike the savage who eagerly looks forward to 72 plus virgins.

How on earth could anybody consider suicide attacks in mosques and other public places as courageous unless he or she suffers from a mental disorder.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:23 am

...it was the Museums in Baghdad which hurt the most, their loss was the greatest blunder. Forever, what was lost will be remembered, due to the Ignorance of Bush Jr. But that is another story, or is it?

Who is this "America" everyone is talking about, some in hushed tones, i ask. I don't doubt there is some kind of conspiracy world working for their own interests; i will not label them "Americans", Americans, because "Americans" exist.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:07 am

" Incidentally, I think it would require a great deal less courage to drop a bomb from a warplane than it would to detonate an explosive device strapped around one's waist."


Completely irrelevant and bogus comparison.

Pilots are trained to do a job. The job requires them to generally do things for the greater good. For instance, pilots are instructed to avoid civilian casualties.

to deliberately drop bombs knowing there are civilians, is a war crime, and a violation against engagement rules. pilots can bug out at any time if there is doubt.

A suicide bomber is just a crazed idiot who has been radicalized to such a point where they will kill themselves in order to kill many more civilians. They are not brave. Just idiots.

Pilots generally do not want to kill themselves or other innocent persons.

Anymore nonsense from Garos? :roll:
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:32 am

Paphitis wrote:
" Incidentally, I think it would require a great deal less courage to drop a bomb from a warplane than it would to detonate an explosive device strapped around one's waist."


Completely irrelevant and bogus comparison.

Pilots are trained to do a job. The job requires them to generally do things for the greater good. For instance, pilots are instructed to avoid civilian casualties.

to deliberately drop bombs knowing there are civilians, is a war crime, and a violation against engagement rules. pilots can bug out at any time if there is doubt.

A suicide bomber is just a crazed idiot who has been radicalized to such a point where they will kill themselves in order to kill many more civilians. They are not brave. Just idiots.

Pilots generally do not want to kill themselves or other innocent persons.

Anymore nonsense from Garos? :roll:

Can you see why I crudely respond to this psychopath who thinks that a brainwashed savage who enters a mosque, a bus, a school and other public places blowing his filthy self up killing whoever happens to be round, has more courage than a trained fighter pilot who carries out strikes against enemy pre selected targets, not randomly selected but targets identified as enemy targets. These savages, I understand that before detonating their filthy bodies have a smile on their faces in anticipation no doubt of heavenly rewards screaming out allahokbar .
Only a psycho would consider these barbaric acts as courageous, in a mosque FFS !!!
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:21 am

Paphitis wrote:
" Incidentally, I think it would require a great deal less courage to drop a bomb from a warplane than it would to detonate an explosive device strapped around one's waist."


Completely irrelevant and bogus comparison.

Pilots are trained to do a job. The job requires them to generally do things for the greater good. For instance, pilots are instructed to avoid civilian casualties.

to deliberately drop bombs knowing there are civilians, is a war crime, and a violation against engagement rules. pilots can bug out at any time if there is doubt.

A suicide bomber is just a crazed idiot who has been radicalized to such a point where they will kill themselves in order to kill many more civilians. They are not brave. Just idiots.

Pilots generally do not want to kill themselves or other innocent persons.

Anymore nonsense from Garos? :roll:



Deliberate lies perpetrated by the Bush/Blair administrations were the catalyst which sanctioned the "Shock and Awe" attack upon the sleeping population of Baghdad, it was assumed that such an attack would ((as did the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs upon Japan) force the Iraqi forces to capitulate.

The ploy did not work quite as planned and what we are now seeing is the direct result of the "Shock and Awe" tactics which did not produce quite the results expected.

The airborne attacks were cowardly and everyone knows it, the pilots who flew the missions could not possibly target anything other than civilians (mostly) and everyone (with a modicum of intelligence) knows it.

Every death in the Middle East that has occurred since that terrible onslaught (by whosoever and from whatever source) can surely be attributed to those actions UNLESS, we are prepared to believe that the purpose of the actions was to protect the general population
from bullying tyrants.

An interesting choice for the unfortunates who are now suffering, "Which BULLY do you prefer, the one who has held the country fast for many years or the one who has razed your cities and villages to the ground and murdered your countrymen by the millions?".

Every uprising since "Shock and Awe" is deeply rooted in it, the Jihadi fighters are demonstrating that the "Hornets Nest" has been disturbed and the buzzing will not cease until "Justice" prevails, those who have taken up the gauntlet thrown down before them are worthy of praise for their courage, it is a pure courage which does not exist in the breasts of their opponents who rely upon vastly superior military strength for their success, time will tell and the forces which oppose the oppression of US/UK/Israel and any other,
will teach them, even at the cost of their own lives, that the BULLY will always get his comeuppance.

We live in interesting times, the Western influenced populations are mostly sleeping, lulled into believing that their governments are acting on their behalf, whilst those of other regions are waking up to the realities of what has been done to them by the sleepers.

May Allah preserve us from the fury that awaits those who are oblivious to that which the "Scales of Justice" demand.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:45 am

Do us all a favour, go and join the courageous jihadists and blow your stupid self up, you despicable piece of shit.
Off you go, and make sure you do it in a public place, rewards for perverts like you are awaiting.
What a disgusting piece of shit you are !
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:50 am

miltiades wrote:Do us all a favour, go and join the courageous jihadists and blow your stupid self up, you despicable piece of shit.
Off you go, and make sure you do it in a public place, rewards for perverts like you are awaiting.
What a disgusting piece of shit you are !


Now calm down old chap, read what is written and try to understand the words and their meaning, it may help you.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:04 pm

Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:Do us all a favour, go and join the courageous jihadists and blow your stupid self up, you despicable piece of shit.
Off you go, and make sure you do it in a public place, rewards for perverts like you are awaiting.
What a disgusting piece of shit you are !


Now calm down old chap, read what is written and try to understand the words and their meaning, it may help you.

" the Jihadi fighters are demonstrating that the "Hornets Nest" has been disturbed and the buzzing will not cease until "Justice" prevails, those who have taken up the gauntlet thrown down before them are worthy of praise for their courage "
Is this what you want me to read you fucking psychopath ?
Shit like you do not deserve civil responses, so fuck off you sick bastard .

People such as you ought to be kept under close scrutiny, you represent a danger to the free world and to Cyprus, the comments you have made are in clear support of the Isis savages, go and join them, quick, we do not need shit like you in Cyprus or elsewhere in the free world.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Garavnoss » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:25 pm

miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
miltiades wrote:Do us all a favour, go and join the courageous jihadists and blow your stupid self up, you despicable piece of shit.
Off you go, and make sure you do it in a public place, rewards for perverts like you are awaiting.
What a disgusting piece of shit you are !


Now calm down old chap, read what is written and try to understand the words and their meaning, it may help you.

" the Jihadi fighters are demonstrating that the "Hornets Nest" has been disturbed and the buzzing will not cease until "Justice" prevails, those who have taken up the gauntlet thrown down before them are worthy of praise for their courage "
Is this what you want me to read you fucking psychopath ?
Shit like you do not deserve civil responses, so fuck off you sick bastard .


As expected, you are unable to free yourself from the confines of your addled brain, therefore you use offensive expressions to relieve the pressures that intelligent thoughts impose upon you, not an uncommon malady among those who have Deviant tendencies and in particular quite prevalent among Paedophiles and other Perverted characters.

The good news is that "Shock Treatment" is no longer seen as the best treatment, expert psychological help produces better results.
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