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IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

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DO YOU CONSIDER MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:05 pm

YES
7
21%
NO
27
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Total votes : 34

Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Garavnoss » Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:41 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:



You all thought Americans were evil Cannabis smoking Cowboys with a gun fetish and you all thought they would turn Cyprus into a brothel.



Not a totally inaccurate description of the average American G.I's. attitude and not too far out regarding the "Brothel" comment either, one could cite the Cuban situation as a prime example of the latter and the Far Eastern nations have also been greatly influenced by the introduction of Western culture.

Strangely enough, some of the most successful "Box Office" attractions depict precisely that which you highlight (the Americans seem to relish portraying their shortcomings on film) problem is, one has to be equipped with the mental capacity to recognize it and THAT is quite difficult unless one has lived among it and observed the changes which have degraded once respectable cultures, sadly our small Cypriot island and it's once united close knit community has become yet another example of the aforementioned influence.


The USA is a diverse country and very innovative. Their contribution to the world is huge.

I think you should stick to watching Hollywood Westerns.



It would appear that YOUR appraisals of the US are very much the result of adoration rather than observation. You are ever apt to base your opinions from a position of military strength and political outcome rather than a "How did they get there" standpoint.

Diversity in the US is well documented when one considers the terrible amount of racial hatreds that fester across the entire nation,
the "American Dream" (as it is oft fondly called) can so clearly be the "American Nightmare" if the face does not fit .

Innovation is not necessarily a GOOD thing since the principles of it can equally be regarded as BAD (depending on which changes the innovation refers to) and if one applies it to the foregoing example (a small one) then innovation is not quite so endearing

The greatest evidence of "Contribution" to the wider world (courtesy of the Innovation of the US) is currently available to us all when we view the destruction of the Middle East, it is there that one can vividly witness the end result of the innovative actions of the US, little to be proud of I suggest.

Of course, if one is blinded by that which is filtered through to them via media sources, it would be quite wrong to dismiss the views proffered since they would be sourced from a state of limbo and THAT is precisely where the US would like to keep us all.

It would also appear that (as usual) the thread has gone a little off topic. :lol:


Ok garavnoss let's forget the cotton gin the airplane the industrial revolution the nuclear age the space age and the computer age. Let's just focus on race relations and the USA. All races here are killing each other in the streets endlessly..


Can't make head or tail of what you are trying to illustrate, I just can't work it out.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Lordo » Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:44 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Paphitis wrote:



You all thought Americans were evil Cannabis smoking Cowboys with a gun fetish and you all thought they would turn Cyprus into a brothel.



Not a totally inaccurate description of the average American G.I's. attitude and not too far out regarding the "Brothel" comment either, one could cite the Cuban situation as a prime example of the latter and the Far Eastern nations have also been greatly influenced by the introduction of Western culture.

Strangely enough, some of the most successful "Box Office" attractions depict precisely that which you highlight (the Americans seem to relish portraying their shortcomings on film) problem is, one has to be equipped with the mental capacity to recognize it and THAT is quite difficult unless one has lived among it and observed the changes which have degraded once respectable cultures, sadly our small Cypriot island and it's once united close knit community has become yet another example of the aforementioned influence.


The USA is a diverse country and very innovative. Their contribution to the world is huge.

I think you should stick to watching Hollywood Westerns.



It would appear that YOUR appraisals of the US are very much the result of adoration rather than observation. You are ever apt to base your opinions from a position of military strength and political outcome rather than a "How did they get there" standpoint.

Diversity in the US is well documented when one considers the terrible amount of racial hatreds that fester across the entire nation,
the "American Dream" (as it is oft fondly called) can so clearly be the "American Nightmare" if the face does not fit .

Innovation is not necessarily a GOOD thing since the principles of it can equally be regarded as BAD (depending on which changes the innovation refers to) and if one applies it to the foregoing example (a small one) then innovation is not quite so endearing

The greatest evidence of "Contribution" to the wider world (courtesy of the Innovation of the US) is currently available to us all when we view the destruction of the Middle East, it is there that one can vividly witness the end result of the innovative actions of the US, little to be proud of I suggest.

Of course, if one is blinded by that which is filtered through to them via media sources, it would be quite wrong to dismiss the views proffered since they would be sourced from a state of limbo and THAT is precisely where the US would like to keep us all.

It would also appear that (as usual) the thread has gone a little off topic. :lol:


Ok garavnoss let's forget the cotton gin the airplane the industrial revolution the nuclear age the space age and the computer age. Let's just focus on race relations and the USA. All races here are killing each other in the streets endlessly..

no re sdronciloni gavole. white people and white police kill black unarmed people and do not even get prosecuted. ma galibam too much zivania agiin ennen.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Paphitis » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:25 am

You all thought Americans were evil Cannabis smoking Cowboys with a gun fetish and you all thought they


Can't make head or tail of what you are trying to illustrate, I just can't work it out.


Γιατί δεν συμφέρει;

Με είσαι καθυστερημένος;
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:36 am

[
I think you should stick to watching Hollywood Westerns.[/quote]


It would appear that YOUR appraisals of the US are very much the result of adoration rather than observation. You are ever apt to base your opinions from a position of military strength and political outcome rather than a "How did they get there" standpoint.

Diversity in the US is well documented when one considers the terrible amount of racial hatreds that fester across the entire nation,
the "American Dream" (as it is oft fondly called) can so clearly be the "American Nightmare" if the face does not fit .

Innovation is not necessarily a GOOD thing since the principles of it can equally be regarded as BAD (depending on which changes the innovation refers to) and if one applies it to the foregoing example (a small one) then innovation is not quite so endearing

The greatest evidence of "Contribution" to the wider world (courtesy of the Innovation of the US) is currently available to us all when we view the destruction of the Middle East, it is there that one can vividly witness the end result of the innovative actions of the US, little to be proud of I suggest.

Of course, if one is blinded by that which is filtered through to them via media sources, it would be quite wrong to dismiss the views proffered since they would be sourced from a state of limbo and

Ok garavnoss let's forget the cotton gin the airplane the industrial revolution the nuclear age the space age and the computer age. Let's just focus on race relations and the USA. All races here are killing each other in the streets endlessly..[/quote]

Can't make head or tail of what you are trying to illustrate, I just can't work it out.[/quote]

You criticed the USA with words such as :

[quoteDiversity in the US is well documented when one considers the terrible amount of racial hatreds that fester across the entire nation, ][/quote]

I would agree that in its past the USA record of racial injustice was extreme, but who can deny the changes that have occurred in the past 60 years. A complete change of attitude and an example to the rest of the world on race relations. There are still incidents, of racial discrimination but attitudes have changed.

The greatest evidence of "Contribution" to the wider world (courtesy of the Innovation of the US) is currently available to us all when we view the destruction of the Middle East, it is there that one can vividly witness the end result of the innovative actions of the US, little to be proud of I suggest


Iraq? Afghanistan?...egypt? Libya? Tunisia? They have been pushed towards a better/easier transformation...someone had to do it. The Europeans weren't willing and the USA took charge. Are you saying that these countries were better off or would be without intervention?......

[quote]["American Dream" (as it is oft fondly called) can so clearly be the "American Nightmare" if the face does not fit .
/quote]

Where everyone from around the world at one time or another has gone to the USA andneverlooked back. Where they aren't persecuted because of race, religion etc.. And have contributed immediately, and where most of the innovations come from.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby miltiades » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:08 am

We are a tiny island with almost half under Turkish foreign occupation, our focus should be on finding a solution that is acceptable to all Cypriots with all troops out.

Only one power can influence, even force, the departure of the Turkish army and other foreign armies. That power is none other than the USA. Cypriot hostility, by some, directed at the USA is not only detrimental to our interests but blatantly f,,ing stupid. The likes of GR who is consumed by an immense hatred of the USA, due to his illness, should try and put the interests of Cyprus above all else.

The USA is not perfect, neither is any other nation, but it is the ONLY power that can exert, demand, force and achieve the withdrawal of Turkish occupying troops.


The balance of power and geopolitical realities in our region are vastly changing, we have to make the right choices now.
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Get Real! » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:30 am

miltiades wrote:Only one power can influence, even force, the departure of the Turkish army and other foreign armies. That power is none other than the USA.

Well it DOESN’T WANT to!

It only wants to continue doing that which keeps YOUR country enslaved! So what you gonna do now wise guy?

Say never mind and continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby miltiades » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:26 am

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Only one power can influence, even force, the departure of the Turkish army and other foreign armies. That power is none other than the USA.

Well it DOESN’T WANT to!

It only wants to continue doing that which keeps YOUR country enslaved! So what you gonna do now wise guy?

Say never mind and continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?

If they read your posts Im not surprised :lol:

By the way, the USA has not and does not intend to grant recognition to the "trnc", are you aware of this Psycho ?
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Get Real! » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:20 am

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Only one power can influence, even force, the departure of the Turkish army and other foreign armies. That power is none other than the USA.

Well it DOESN’T WANT to!

It only wants to continue doing that which keeps YOUR country enslaved! So what you gonna do now wise guy?

Say never mind and continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?

If they read your posts Im not surprised :lol:

By the way, the USA has not and does not intend to grant recognition to the "trnc", are you aware of this Psycho ?

That was already stipulated in UN resolution 541 since 1983!
http://kypros.org/UN/scr541.htm

So do you plan to continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby miltiades » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:25 am

Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Only one power can influence, even force, the departure of the Turkish army and other foreign armies. That power is none other than the USA.

Well it DOESN’T WANT to!

It only wants to continue doing that which keeps YOUR country enslaved! So what you gonna do now wise guy?

Say never mind and continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?

If they read your posts Im not surprised :lol:

By the way, the USA has not and does not intend to grant recognition to the "trnc", are you aware of this Psycho ?

That was already stipulated in UN resolution 541 since 1983!
http://kypros.org/UN/scr541.htm

So do you plan to continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?

You are not only full of hatred for America,Israel and the West, you are also full of SCATA and openly supports jihadists, so do me a favour psycho, PIENNE GAMISOU ME KANENAN ARABI, POUSTHTOMALAKA :lol:
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Re: IS MILTIADES A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY

Postby Get Real! » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:33 am

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
miltiades wrote:Only one power can influence, even force, the departure of the Turkish army and other foreign armies. That power is none other than the USA.

Well it DOESN’T WANT to!

It only wants to continue doing that which keeps YOUR country enslaved! So what you gonna do now wise guy?

Say never mind and continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?

If they read your posts Im not surprised :lol:

By the way, the USA has not and does not intend to grant recognition to the "trnc", are you aware of this Psycho ?

That was already stipulated in UN resolution 541 since 1983!
http://kypros.org/UN/scr541.htm

So do you plan to continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?

You are not only full of hatred for America,Israel and the West, you are also full of SCATA and openly supports jihadists, so do me a favour psycho, PIENNE GAMISOU ME KANENAN ARABI, POUSTHTOMALAKA :lol:

Yeah, sure... whatever.

So do you plan to continue sucking their balls because they taste good anyway?
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