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[Paphitis]

Most Cypriots are close to Greece. Well if that is the case, then the RoC should have followed the "mother" into NATO.

cyprus has always been a powder keg to them that could have the potential to destroy them. If we are honest, we are also a liability because we have always managed to do stupid things.

Is anyone at all surprised at why Greece has control of the highest ranks in the CNG? Is it because they don't want any nasty surprises.

Greece is armed to the teeth and it's all made in USA. It can hold its own but they too have to tow the line and the USA does not want to see Greece or Turkey at war and there would be a price to pay to the first country that chooses not to tow the line. Greece even has an edge over Turkey with Air power and naval forces. Yes you can even say that Greece is militarily strong - very strong as a matter of fact!

It's all complicated stuff but the least we can do is be realistic about the state of play because we are not big enough to influence it or change it.

[Paphitis]

Actually paphitis because we thought we were the center of the universe we were playing both sites to an extend....the US stopped the turks twice....then in 74 with the help of both so called motherlands brought us where we are today, still unable to comprehend....

Today the winning site, read US, has the best of both worlds...

The proof to all this is, had cyprus commited to ether site we would not have lost half the country...see cuba for example, ok they also bet on the wrong horse as it turned out, but the difference is they commited....

You're right but I can't comprehend how we could put ourselves at risk like this and play this big powers off each other.

We really thought we were the Centre of the Universe whilst the superpowers were scratching their heads thinking WTF!

We should have committed to NATO Boomers like Greece and Turkey. The so called mothers enjoy protection and security and we were out in the cold.

[kurupetos]

The head of AKEL (over40%of the population)..in those days Ioannou had Makarios ear. Ioannou had close ties to the soviets and was their pawn in Cyprus. What the soviets wanted went through Ioannou to Makarios which swayed him towards the nonalignment camp, with the likes of Nasser, Mao and Castro. Many youths in those days were taken to the eastern bloc and indoctrinated into communism and anti western ism)like the former prez Christofias. Being anti west and anti American came from that portion of the population. How could Makarios allow the Americans a base in Cyprus when the core of his electorate was anti American and anti nato. It got to the point that when the turks were invading, many Cypriots were made to believe the soviets would stop them.

That's what happens when you expect help from commies, atheists and zionists.

[Oceanside50]

The head of AKEL (over40%of the population)..in those days Ioannou had Makarios ear. Ioannou had close ties to the soviets and was their pawn in Cyprus. What the soviets wanted went through Ioannou to Makarios which swayed him towards the nonalignment camp, with the likes of Nasser, Mao and Castro. Many youths in those days were taken to the eastern bloc and indoctrinated into communism and anti western ism)like the former prez Christofias. Being anti west and anti American came from that portion of the population. How could Makarios allow the Americans a base in Cyprus when the core of his electorate was anti American and anti nato. It got to the point that when the turks were invading, many Cypriots were made to believe the soviets would stop them.

That's what happens when you expect help from commies, atheists and zionists.

Didn't the bishops revolt against Makarios and wanted to vote him out being the head of the church in Cyprus? The Kyrenia bishop I think, wanted to become head of the church in 72/73 an attempt to get rid of Makarios in any way possible..old ladies were being bussed around Cyprus in those days in order to vote pro Makarios. I think Makarios was a sort of sex symbol to these old ladies..

[Garavnoss]

You all thought Americans were evil Cannabis smoking Cowboys with a gun fetish and you all thought they would turn Cyprus into a brothel.

Not a totally inaccurate description of the average American G.I's. attitude and not too far out regarding the "Brothel" comment either, one could cite the Cuban situation as a prime example of the latter and the Far Eastern nations have also been greatly influenced by the introduction of Western culture.

Strangely enough, some of the most successful "Box Office" attractions depict precisely that which you highlight (the Americans seem to relish portraying their shortcomings on film) problem is, one has to be equipped with the mental capacity to recognize it and THAT is quite difficult unless one has lived among it and observed the changes which have degraded once respectable cultures, sadly our small Cypriot island and it's once united close knit community has become yet another example of the aforementioned influence.

The USA is a diverse country and very innovative. Their contribution to the world is huge.

I think you should stick to watching Hollywood Westerns.

It would appear that YOUR appraisals of the US are very much the result of adoration rather than observation. You are ever apt to base your opinions from a position of military strength and political outcome rather than a "How did they get there" standpoint.

Diversity in the US is well documented when one considers the terrible amount of racial hatreds that fester across the entire nation,
the "American Dream" (as it is oft fondly called) can so clearly be the "American Nightmare" if the face does not fit .

Innovation is not necessarily a GOOD thing since the principles of it can equally be regarded as BAD (depending on which changes the innovation refers to) and if one applies it to the foregoing example (a small one) then innovation is not quite so endearing

The greatest evidence of "Contribution" to the wider world (courtesy of the Innovation of the US) is currently available to us all when we view the destruction of the Middle East, it is there that one can vividly witness the end result of the innovative actions of the US, little to be proud of I suggest.

Of course, if one is blinded by that which is filtered through to them via media sources, it would be quite wrong to dismiss the views proffered since they would be sourced from a state of limbo and THAT is precisely where the US would like to keep us all.

It would also appear that (as usual) the thread has gone a little off topic.

[Lordo]

this is from 36 million native americans that were wiped out one way or another by the white race.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwv_wQzINIs

[Paphitis]

You all thought Americans were evil Cannabis smoking Cowboys with a gun fetish and you all thought they would turn Cyprus into a brothel.

Not a totally inaccurate description of the average American G.I's. attitude and not too far out regarding the "Brothel" comment either, one could cite the Cuban situation as a prime example of the latter and the Far Eastern nations have also been greatly influenced by the introduction of Western culture.

Strangely enough, some of the most successful "Box Office" attractions depict precisely that which you highlight (the Americans seem to relish portraying their shortcomings on film) problem is, one has to be equipped with the mental capacity to recognize it and THAT is quite difficult unless one has lived among it and observed the changes which have degraded once respectable cultures, sadly our small Cypriot island and it's once united close knit community has become yet another example of the aforementioned influence.

The USA is a diverse country and very innovative. Their contribution to the world is huge.

I think you should stick to watching Hollywood Westerns.

It would appear that YOUR appraisals of the US are very much the result of adoration rather than observation. You are ever apt to base your opinions from a position of military strength and political outcome rather than a "How did they get there" standpoint.

Diversity in the US is well documented when one considers the terrible amount of racial hatreds that fester across the entire nation,
the "American Dream" (as it is oft fondly called) can so clearly be the "American Nightmare" if the face does not fit .

Innovation is not necessarily a GOOD thing since the principles of it can equally be regarded as BAD (depending on which changes the innovation refers to) and if one applies it to the foregoing example (a small one) then innovation is not quite so endearing

The greatest evidence of "Contribution" to the wider world (courtesy of the Innovation of the US) is currently available to us all when we view the destruction of the Middle East, it is there that one can vividly witness the end result of the innovative actions of the US, little to be proud of I suggest.

Of course, if one is blinded by that which is filtered through to them via media sources, it would be quite wrong to dismiss the views proffered since they would be sourced from a state of limbo and THAT is precisely where the US would like to keep us all.

It would also appear that (as usual) the thread has gone a little off topic.

I don't adore them. I don't hate them either.

I have a good deal of respect for what they have achieved in their short history and the contributions they have made for the betterment of man.

Generally a very tolerant and easy going people who are quite well meaning and a bit of a multicultural melting pot.

Yes I could live there and it is generally a good place to raise a family, but Canada is even better!

The countries I adore and love are Australia and Cyprus. Australia is probably the best country to raise a family in and in many ways it packs a bigger punch than America does population wise in areas of education, science and health but America is right up there at the top too.

All these countries are blessed with opportunity. The people that live within them are fortunate.

[Paphitis]

this is from 36 million native americans that were wiped out one way or another by the white race.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwv_wQzINIs

Oh dear. What a genocide hey?

Americans must have kerata too!

[miltiades]

Anyone who cannot see that closer ties with America and the West, NATO too, are beneficial to Cyprus interests and long term stability must be not only blind but utterly naïve and rather stupid.

WE NEED POWERFUL ALLIES, FACT !

[Oceanside50]

You all thought Americans were evil Cannabis smoking Cowboys with a gun fetish and you all thought they would turn Cyprus into a brothel.

Not a totally inaccurate description of the average American G.I's. attitude and not too far out regarding the "Brothel" comment either, one could cite the Cuban situation as a prime example of the latter and the Far Eastern nations have also been greatly influenced by the introduction of Western culture.

Strangely enough, some of the most successful "Box Office" attractions depict precisely that which you highlight (the Americans seem to relish portraying their shortcomings on film) problem is, one has to be equipped with the mental capacity to recognize it and THAT is quite difficult unless one has lived among it and observed the changes which have degraded once respectable cultures, sadly our small Cypriot island and it's once united close knit community has become yet another example of the aforementioned influence.

The USA is a diverse country and very innovative. Their contribution to the world is huge.

I think you should stick to watching Hollywood Westerns.

It would appear that YOUR appraisals of the US are very much the result of adoration rather than observation. You are ever apt to base your opinions from a position of military strength and political outcome rather than a "How did they get there" standpoint.

Diversity in the US is well documented when one considers the terrible amount of racial hatreds that fester across the entire nation,
the "American Dream" (as it is oft fondly called) can so clearly be the "American Nightmare" if the face does not fit .

Innovation is not necessarily a GOOD thing since the principles of it can equally be regarded as BAD (depending on which changes the innovation refers to) and if one applies it to the foregoing example (a small one) then innovation is not quite so endearing

The greatest evidence of "Contribution" to the wider world (courtesy of the Innovation of the US) is currently available to us all when we view the destruction of the Middle East, it is there that one can vividly witness the end result of the innovative actions of the US, little to be proud of I suggest.

Of course, if one is blinded by that which is filtered through to them via media sources, it would be quite wrong to dismiss the views proffered since they would be sourced from a state of limbo and THAT is precisely where the US would like to keep us all.

It would also appear that (as usual) the thread has gone a little off topic.

Ok garavnoss let's forget the cotton gin the airplane the industrial revolution the nuclear age the space age and the computer age. Let's just focus on race relations and the USA. All races here are killing each other in the streets endlessly..