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Re: Canadair CL415

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:I do not understand why the Cyprus Government does not take the initiative and purchase 2-3 Canadair CL 415 aircraft. This aircraft is currently in service with the HAF and is very efficient in water bombing operations. It can drop over 6,000 litres of water and foam on a fire.

I understand that this type of equipment comes at a considerable price and then you have the added costs of pilot training and aircraft maintenance. However, Cyprus is a dry island which is prone to bush fire activity. The loss of property, and the potential for cultural and heritage losses is a serious threat and therefore I consider it an excellent investment if Cyprus takes the next step in combating fires by adding these very capable aircraft to it's fire fighting arsenal.

Here is some information on the aircraft in question.

http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?id= ... 3_3_0.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CL-415

So, what are your thoughts? Should the Cyprus government take more initiative and invest in hardware that will protect Cypriot Citizens from bush fires? Or do you think that it is already doing enough?



Bafidis, I hate to bring this up at a time like this. Whenever there is a fire in Cyprus, I feel my heart bleed. I had made a statement against the provocateurs for war, that the 'monies' would be better spent on 'fire fighting' instead of 'arming'. It would be a good idea to have something left to live in. I am sure they could arrange their budget to improve the fire fighting capabilities. Surely EU will help with the purchase of suitable aircraft. These fires are recurring every year and still the same arguments and still not enough done to fight it.


Defence is just as vital as fire fighting, if not more when you have 40,000 foreign invaders on the island. :roll:


I have subscribed to the AA for nearly 35 years and only called them out once when I locked the keys in the car. All those years money spent was not worth it in my opinion.
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Re: Canadair CL415

Postby Paphitis » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:45 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I do not understand why the Cyprus Government does not take the initiative and purchase 2-3 Canadair CL 415 aircraft. This aircraft is currently in service with the HAF and is very efficient in water bombing operations. It can drop over 6,000 litres of water and foam on a fire.

I understand that this type of equipment comes at a considerable price and then you have the added costs of pilot training and aircraft maintenance. However, Cyprus is a dry island which is prone to bush fire activity. The loss of property, and the potential for cultural and heritage losses is a serious threat and therefore I consider it an excellent investment if Cyprus takes the next step in combating fires by adding these very capable aircraft to it's fire fighting arsenal.

Here is some information on the aircraft in question.

http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?id= ... 3_3_0.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CL-415

So, what are your thoughts? Should the Cyprus government take more initiative and invest in hardware that will protect Cypriot Citizens from bush fires? Or do you think that it is already doing enough?



Bafidis, I hate to bring this up at a time like this. Whenever there is a fire in Cyprus, I feel my heart bleed. I had made a statement against the provocateurs for war, that the 'monies' would be better spent on 'fire fighting' instead of 'arming'. It would be a good idea to have something left to live in. I am sure they could arrange their budget to improve the fire fighting capabilities. Surely EU will help with the purchase of suitable aircraft. These fires are recurring every year and still the same arguments and still not enough done to fight it.


Defence is just as vital as fire fighting, if not more when you have 40,000 foreign invaders on the island. :roll:


I have subscribed to the AA for nearly 35 years and only called them out once when I locked the keys in the car. All those years money spent was not worth it in my opinion.


The CNG is the Cypriot's only defense against a foreign aggressor. It is also a great deterrence to war. Therefore every dollar is well spent.

You seem very eager to disarm Cyprus which is under occupation from a more powerful law breaking country, and yet you do not seem to apply the same standards to this law breaking country. Most Turkish citizens are living below the poverty line and yet the Turkish military still finds the Billions to arm itself to the teeth. Hypocrisy abounds. :roll:

Back to the topic of fire fighting.....
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Postby Raymanoff » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:08 pm

i am sealing myself in my lab trying to invent a "fire resistant fiber dome megablanket"® with GPS controlled descent after being thrown off a helicopter capable of covering 5000square meters of land and eliminating fire by blocking OXYGEN... ... any investors interested?

:D :D :D
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Re: Canadair CL415

Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:06 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I do not understand why the Cyprus Government does not take the initiative and purchase 2-3 Canadair CL 415 aircraft. This aircraft is currently in service with the HAF and is very efficient in water bombing operations. It can drop over 6,000 litres of water and foam on a fire.

I understand that this type of equipment comes at a considerable price and then you have the added costs of pilot training and aircraft maintenance. However, Cyprus is a dry island which is prone to bush fire activity. The loss of property, and the potential for cultural and heritage losses is a serious threat and therefore I consider it an excellent investment if Cyprus takes the next step in combating fires by adding these very capable aircraft to it's fire fighting arsenal.

Here is some information on the aircraft in question.

http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?id= ... 3_3_0.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CL-415

So, what are your thoughts? Should the Cyprus government take more initiative and invest in hardware that will protect Cypriot Citizens from bush fires? Or do you think that it is already doing enough?



Bafidis, I hate to bring this up at a time like this. Whenever there is a fire in Cyprus, I feel my heart bleed. I had made a statement against the provocateurs for war, that the 'monies' would be better spent on 'fire fighting' instead of 'arming'. It would be a good idea to have something left to live in. I am sure they could arrange their budget to improve the fire fighting capabilities. Surely EU will help with the purchase of suitable aircraft. These fires are recurring every year and still the same arguments and still not enough done to fight it.


Defence is just as vital as fire fighting, if not more when you have 40,000 foreign invaders on the island. :roll:


I have subscribed to the AA for nearly 35 years and only called them out once when I locked the keys in the car. All those years money spent was not worth it in my opinion.


The CNG is the Cypriot's only defense against a foreign aggressor. It is also a great deterrence to war. Therefore every dollar is well spent.

You seem very eager to disarm Cyprus which is under occupation from a more powerful law breaking country, and yet you do not seem to apply the same standards to this law breaking country. Most Turkish citizens are living below the poverty line and yet the Turkish military still finds the Billions to arm itself to the teeth. Hypocrisy abounds. :roll:

Back to the topic of fire fighting.....



Right back to the topic. Fire. Tell your gov to use their money wisely. If they dont, stop crying everytime there is a fire and you have not enough means to fight it.

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Postby Raymanoff » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:11 pm

ARTIFICIAL RAIN:

Now, artificial rain for Bundelkhand

LUCKNOW: Made to order rainfall within two hours flat, any time of the year -just what Uttar Pradesh government needs for a parched and now highly politicised Bundelkhand.

This offer, which sounds like a blend of sci-fi and pure fantasy, came to Maya Sarkar on Monday from a team of Russian scientists.

A Russian concern, Magnetic Technologies, led by Professor Yuri Tkatchenko, its scientific director and Olexander Sokolov, director analytical wing, claims to have made rains on Aryam island, approximately 30 kms west of Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates by using air ionization technology.

The whether modification technology, they are confident, could put an end to water woes in the drought-hit Bundelkhand.

On Monday David Pidcock, representative of Magnetic Technologies, arrived in Lucknow to hold talks with the state government and explore the possibilities of a tie-up. According to the estimate presented to the state government, rainfall within two hours over an area of 150 square kms will cost between Rs 20 crores and Rs 40 crores. After the deliberations, UP chief secretary Prashant Kumar Mishra has appointed the state agriculture department as the nodal agency to deal with the project.


:D :D bloody hell, can we order that please?
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:50 pm

Raymanoff wrote:But here's a fire-fighting seaplane with power to spare! It's a Beriev Be-200 Altair, one of the latest products from a long line of seaplanes produced by this pioneering Russian design bureau. I photographed it at the 2006 Gidroaviasalon (hydro-aviation exhibition) at the Russian Black Sea resort town of Gelendzhik. It can only carry 3,170 US gallons (12,000 liters) of water compared to the Mars' 7,200 gallons (27,250 liters), but it does it relatively effortlessly and can fly at much greater speeds between the water source and the fire.

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They could use this to wash down Cy's patios, pavements and cars and save on fresh water. :lol:
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Postby Raymanoff » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:06 pm

That would be expensive man... every Cypriot patio requires 2tonnes of water per week... think man, think... tss tss tsss :D
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:23 pm

Raymanoff wrote:That would be expensive man... every Cypriot patio requires 2tonnes of water per week... think man, think... tss tss tsss :D


Oh yes Ray. I see what you mean.
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