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[Main_Source]

Nah i've got to say, the good thing about this forum is taking in and trying to decifer real TC points of view...because I have never got into a deep conversation or aired my true feelings with any TC friends. Its one of those unwritten rules that we dont talk about this in depth.

[turkcyp]

Im not accusing you of anything, just commenting why waste time here. Now, im actually online for another reason apart from this forum, and i will have to make the assumption here that you are online for this forum which means you are wasting your time. Second, im not the one posting here everyday, i have hardly posted at all on this forum.

I am online for almost 12 hours a day, not related to this forum...

Do you ever expect to agree with the greeks over anything that is important regarding a cyprus settlement or events in the past? (putting aside the usual 'we all did mistakes BUT' ) If the answer is 'no' then there is no point to this thread, especially with such feelings between the members.

I do not need to agree on anything with GCs. As I have said the aim of this forum is not to find a solution to Cyprus or agree on something with GCs. At least for me this forum does not serve that purpose.

I am here arguing, (exercises of brain, development of argumentative skills), learning (their side of the story assuming they speak frankly, and I can differentiate between propaganda and others, other details that I did not know about Cyprus problem and politics.)

You may call the above wasting my time. Apparently this forum does not give you any utility. That is fine. But apparently it does give me certain utility otherwise I would not be here.

You are not that arrogant to claim that I do not know what gives me utility and what is best for me, are you?

[turkkan]

the aim of the forum is and i quote 'Another issue I would like to bring up is that of "propaganda".
This is a discussion forum where people are supposed to discuss about how to solve the Cyprus problem.'

Now i accept that perhaps you and others personally might enjoy this forum as you learn the others history (which you should have memorised by now with all mics posts but anyhow) or practise your debating skills. But from the above intention of this forum, it is getting no where and it is a waste of time.

[magikthrill]

the aim of the forum is and i quote 'Another issue I would like to bring up is that of "propaganda".
This is a discussion forum where people are supposed to discuss about how to solve the Cyprus problem.'

Now i accept that perhaps you and others personally might enjoy this forum as you learn the others history (which you should have memorised by now with all mics posts but anyhow) or practise your debating skills. But from the above intention of this forum, it is getting no where and it is a waste of time.

babbling on and on about your opinion is a waste of time. we got your point. get over it. if you have anything else to say fine. otherwise have a good trip.

[Saint Jimmy]

Turkkan, is this a contradiction?

Can someone coming here to point out that participating in this forum is a waste of time seriously expect any one of the participants (!) to agree with him or her? What is he or she expecting? For others to stop participating, because they'll have been blessed by the epiphany of realizing that they're wasting their time?

Is what you're doing not a waste of time in itself?

[Saint Jimmy]

Thats why I changed my avatar

Cool avatar by the way.
I don't like its symbolism, but I can appreciate good-quality old-fashioned irony when I see it.
Sweet.

[erolz]

The truth is, this is the internet...primarily its not about solving the Cyprus Issue, its about releasing some of the things inside of you that you would not do in the outside world. At the end of the day, if everyone here met up..they would all be too scared to say some of the things that are typed (unless I met Insan...I would still call him a c*nt. lol)

Speak for yourself 'main_source'. I do not behave differently on the internet to how I behave in real life. I do not need to hide behind anonimity. I say the same to peoples faces as I do online.

[Alexandros Lordos]

Turkkan,

just the title that you chose for this thread sent a chill up my spine ... "to all turkish cypriots". Why didn't you just label your thread 'to all those who are wasting their time in this forum, whatever they might be"?

Instead, the way I read your thread's title is: Let us recall our nationalism of the 1960s, let us stop all efforts in dialogue and isolate ourselves from "the greeks". This is the TMT mentality. Well, I am glad you lost the last election ...

I don't see the truth in your allegation that "this forum never produces any agreements". We have all learnt a lot here, and we have all moderated our positions by being exposed to the concerns of the other side.

(Insan, when are we going to make that documentary we were talking about? I would love it if we focused on the years 1960-63, in order to expose the idiocy and fanaticism of GC and TC nationalists of that time)

[insan]

(Insan, when are we going to make that documentary we were talking about? I would love it if we focused on the years 1960-63, in order to expose the idiocy and fanaticism of GC and TC nationalists of that time)

Hello, Alexandros;

Nice to see you around again.

Next wek I'll be in Cyprus. I'm planning to make a deep research about Cyprus problem. The first thing I'm planning to do is going to archives and examining the then newspapers(both right wing and left wing media) and other publications. I believe the then TC newspapers and publications are full of facts and clues concerning the daily life in Cyprus and ideological point of views about the strife between two communities. I believe that I should start examining the TC media from 1942. 1942 is a very important year for Cypriots and rest of the world. WW2, post war nationalism, reorganization of TC community, TC reaction to Enosis movement, TC-GC relations in all areas of life, TC-Turkey relations etc.. I think it will take two months to deeply examine the daily TC history in TC media of 1942-1960 period.

I believe that for a better understanding of the events of 1960-63, I need to well examine the previous period from 1942 to 1960. Then I'll start examining the post-independence period.

As I stated previously I'll divide the post-independence period into pieces.
The chapters of post-independence:
1960-63(Establishment of RoC to outbrake of intercommunal violence)
1963-65(Inter-communal violence to report of Galo Plaza)
1965-67(???)
1967-74(Solution seekings, inter-communal talks, return of TC refugees, end of inter-communal violence, movements of TC left, coup and Turkish interventionet)


Then I'll start examining post-war period. After I finished the research, I intend to interview some TCs who once and/or recently had/have an important role on Cyprus problem.


After the research and interview process that I think it will take some 6 months; we can come together to start making the documentary of Cyprus problem.


Ps1: Nice to hear that you had a new baby. I wish him or her a healthy, happy, peaceful and prosperous life.

[Bananiot]

I second the wishes of insan for Alexandros's new arrival and may I add, in a united Cyprus.