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[Paphitis]

Let's use this thread to find preventative solutions.... We are not passive, helpless creatures!

I say we fire things at it ...

I think this is a task requiring the unenviable talents of Rambo along with General Paphitis , a few flying pigs and a little shove from you O wont go unnoticed !!

I think the "Amerikaniko Daktilo" will have to be surgically removed from your but so that you can take aim and fire. You will then be doing your bit to protect the world from this impending impact and disaster. Plonker.

I have said it many times. You need to grow a spine and a personality, instead of just going through life in a brain washed state and not forming your own subjective opinions as opposed to being a robot or clone for all your life.

Precisely what do you know about me General that spurns you to throw so much crap at me !! I'm a 62 year old Cypriot who believes in continuing with the political negotiations currently taking place in order that a peaceful solution may be found and implemented for the benefit of all Cypriots. You on the other hand believe , along with Rambo , that all negotiations are a waste of time and that war is the only option left.
Do you consider that you have more resilient "Spine" than I have because you are a "paper" tiger !!!
Show some respect to your elders and don't be such a prick !

I know enough to not waist any more of my valuable time with an idiot such as yourself. Firstly, I forbid you from misinterpreting any of my posts because it is quite clear that you either do not possess the smarts to adequately comprehend, or you deliberately do it to obtain some kind of advantage. It is you that needs to obtain some flexibility and accepting other people's viewpoint even though they may differ to your own. After all, we are not all American/Israeli clones such as your self.

You keep talking about a solution for the benefit of all Cypriots. Yet you have not made it clear what solution you envisage. You keep talking in vague generalities. My opinions are however, very self explanatory. You can read my view from the below link.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=60

What about you Plonker? What fair Apartheid solution do you think is fair?

PS. It is you that is posting crap about me and I am merely responding.

Just had a look and noted how instrumental your comments are to a peaceful solution of the Cyprob !!!
Have a read yourself ""

"""""We still own it and take pleasure in the fact that very soon we will be in Strasbourg seeing your fucking Turkish arses for compensation and still maintaining legitimitate ownership of the property as all compensation will be on account for "Loss of Enjoyment"
NOT VERY CONSTRUCTIVE NOW IS IT ?
As to my perception as to what a solution I envisage , my position is well known on this forum , let me just state it again.
I opposed the AP because it fell way short of what it was set out to achieve ie the unification of our island . I strongly objected to the guarantor powers offered to Turkey over the whole of Cyprus. I opposed the flying of the Greek flag and Turkish flag on Cyprus's Police stations since that meant Greece and Turkey were the masters of Cyprus and not the Cypriot people.
I support our government's efforts in maintaining the current embargoes in place and in steadfastly refusing to accommodate any act, apart from humanitarian ones , that would in some way bestow even the slightest amount of acceptance and recognition of the "TRNC"
I CONSIDER THAT THE T/C PEOPLE HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE IN CYPRUS AND TO CLAIM IT THEIR OWN AS WE THE G/Cs HAVE . THOSE WHOSE ALLEGIANCE IS TO EITHER GREECE OR TURKEY HAVE NO SUCH RIGHT !!
I have noted your "authoritarian instructions" forbidding me from , as you say , misinterpreting your views !! May I say what an ignorant sod you are and what an insolent one too !!
Get lost Stupid !!

Again, you misinterpret my post as you failed to recognise to whom that comment was made to. My family has also every right to lodge claims against Turkey in the ECHR. It is Turkey that has invaded and ethnically cleansed 200,000 Cypriots and for this there must be justice. And I make no apologies for my comments. You, twist this in a way to insinuate that this is not constructive to a peaceful solution. Perhaps you think my language may be a little too harsh. This may be true, but then again, my wife is forbidden from enjoying her very own house along with thousands of others. Therefore, I feel entitled and at liberty to express myself any way I wish. I was never bought up to beat around the bush.

Every Cypriot recognises the fact that TCs have as much right to Cyprus as the GCs. However, the TCs are going far beyond this and demanding gains on our loses which if they materialise will open a pandora's box of bloodshed in the future. WAKE UP! This is exactly what they want. Their Guarantor Power, will then allow them to invade once again.

You have failed to specify what solution you support. Do you support a True federation based on 1 man, 1 vote? Or do you support Confederacy with unequal political representation which would mean that 1 TC vote = 4.5 GC votes? I can tell you that the current status quo is better than the latter.

I await with baited breath.

[miltiades]

Let's use this thread to find preventative solutions.... We are not passive, helpless creatures!

I say we fire things at it ...

I think this is a task requiring the unenviable talents of Rambo along with General Paphitis , a few flying pigs and a little shove from you O wont go unnoticed !!

I think the "Amerikaniko Daktilo" will have to be surgically removed from your but so that you can take aim and fire. You will then be doing your bit to protect the world from this impending impact and disaster. Plonker.

I have said it many times. You need to grow a spine and a personality, instead of just going through life in a brain washed state and not forming your own subjective opinions as opposed to being a robot or clone for all your life.

Precisely what do you know about me General that spurns you to throw so much crap at me !! I'm a 62 year old Cypriot who believes in continuing with the political negotiations currently taking place in order that a peaceful solution may be found and implemented for the benefit of all Cypriots. You on the other hand believe , along with Rambo , that all negotiations are a waste of time and that war is the only option left.
Do you consider that you have more resilient "Spine" than I have because you are a "paper" tiger !!!
Show some respect to your elders and don't be such a prick !

I know enough to not waist any more of my valuable time with an idiot such as yourself. Firstly, I forbid you from misinterpreting any of my posts because it is quite clear that you either do not possess the smarts to adequately comprehend, or you deliberately do it to obtain some kind of advantage. It is you that needs to obtain some flexibility and accepting other people's viewpoint even though they may differ to your own. After all, we are not all American/Israeli clones such as your self.

You keep talking about a solution for the benefit of all Cypriots. Yet you have not made it clear what solution you envisage. You keep talking in vague generalities. My opinions are however, very self explanatory. You can read my view from the below link.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=60

What about you Plonker? What fair Apartheid solution do you think is fair?

PS. It is you that is posting crap about me and I am merely responding.

Just had a look and noted how instrumental your comments are to a peaceful solution of the Cyprob !!!
Have a read yourself ""

"""""We still own it and take pleasure in the fact that very soon we will be in Strasbourg seeing your fucking Turkish arses for compensation and still maintaining legitimitate ownership of the property as all compensation will be on account for "Loss of Enjoyment"
NOT VERY CONSTRUCTIVE NOW IS IT ?
As to my perception as to what a solution I envisage , my position is well known on this forum , let me just state it again.
I opposed the AP because it fell way short of what it was set out to achieve ie the unification of our island . I strongly objected to the guarantor powers offered to Turkey over the whole of Cyprus. I opposed the flying of the Greek flag and Turkish flag on Cyprus's Police stations since that meant Greece and Turkey were the masters of Cyprus and not the Cypriot people.
I support our government's efforts in maintaining the current embargoes in place and in steadfastly refusing to accommodate any act, apart from humanitarian ones , that would in some way bestow even the slightest amount of acceptance and recognition of the "TRNC"
I CONSIDER THAT THE T/C PEOPLE HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE IN CYPRUS AND TO CLAIM IT THEIR OWN AS WE THE G/Cs HAVE . THOSE WHOSE ALLEGIANCE IS TO EITHER GREECE OR TURKEY HAVE NO SUCH RIGHT !!
I have noted your "authoritarian instructions" forbidding me from , as you say , misinterpreting your views !! May I say what an ignorant sod you are and what an insolent one too !!
Get lost Stupid !!

Again, you misinterpret my post as you failed to recognise to whom that comment was made to. My family has also every right to lodge claims against Turkey in the ECHR. It is Turkey that has invaded and ethnically cleansed 200,000 Cypriots and for this there must be justice. And I make no apologies for my comments. You, twist this in a way to insinuate that this is not constructive to a peaceful solution. Perhaps you think my language may be a little too harsh. This may be true, but then again, my wife is forbidden from enjoying her very own house along with thousands of others. Therefore, I feel entitled and at liberty to express myself any way I wish. I was never bought up to beat around the bush.

Every Cypriot recognises the fact that TCs have as much right to Cyprus as the GCs. However, the TCs are going far beyond this and demanding gains on our loses which if they materialise will open a pandora's box of bloodshed in the future. WAKE UP! This is exactly what they want. Their Guarantor Power, will then allow them to invade once again.

You have failed to specify what solution you support. Do you support a True federation based on 1 man, 1 vote? Or do you support Confederacy with unequal political representation which would mean that 1 TC vote = 4.5 GC votes? I can tell you that the current status quo is better than the latter.

I await with baited breath.

Paphitis , your case IS NOT unique , thousands of Cypriots have been displaced and their ancestral homes usurped , you don't have to lecture me on what has and is still going on in Cyprus. Where we differ is the means to be used in order to arrive at a peaceful solution that satisfies at least the majority of Cypriots. We G/Cs will never get all that we want and the same applies to the T/Cs . A compromise must be found and agreed upon , please don't ask silly childish questions insinuating that I might be in support of anything less than a democratic solution based on the very fundamentals of democracy.

[Paphitis]

Let's use this thread to find preventative solutions.... We are not passive, helpless creatures!

I say we fire things at it ...

I think this is a task requiring the unenviable talents of Rambo along with General Paphitis , a few flying pigs and a little shove from you O wont go unnoticed !!

I think the "Amerikaniko Daktilo" will have to be surgically removed from your but so that you can take aim and fire. You will then be doing your bit to protect the world from this impending impact and disaster. Plonker.

I have said it many times. You need to grow a spine and a personality, instead of just going through life in a brain washed state and not forming your own subjective opinions as opposed to being a robot or clone for all your life.

Precisely what do you know about me General that spurns you to throw so much crap at me !! I'm a 62 year old Cypriot who believes in continuing with the political negotiations currently taking place in order that a peaceful solution may be found and implemented for the benefit of all Cypriots. You on the other hand believe , along with Rambo , that all negotiations are a waste of time and that war is the only option left.
Do you consider that you have more resilient "Spine" than I have because you are a "paper" tiger !!!
Show some respect to your elders and don't be such a prick !

I know enough to not waist any more of my valuable time with an idiot such as yourself. Firstly, I forbid you from misinterpreting any of my posts because it is quite clear that you either do not possess the smarts to adequately comprehend, or you deliberately do it to obtain some kind of advantage. It is you that needs to obtain some flexibility and accepting other people's viewpoint even though they may differ to your own. After all, we are not all American/Israeli clones such as your self.

You keep talking about a solution for the benefit of all Cypriots. Yet you have not made it clear what solution you envisage. You keep talking in vague generalities. My opinions are however, very self explanatory. You can read my view from the below link.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=60

What about you Plonker? What fair Apartheid solution do you think is fair?

PS. It is you that is posting crap about me and I am merely responding.

Just had a look and noted how instrumental your comments are to a peaceful solution of the Cyprob !!!
Have a read yourself ""

"""""We still own it and take pleasure in the fact that very soon we will be in Strasbourg seeing your fucking Turkish arses for compensation and still maintaining legitimitate ownership of the property as all compensation will be on account for "Loss of Enjoyment"
NOT VERY CONSTRUCTIVE NOW IS IT ?
As to my perception as to what a solution I envisage , my position is well known on this forum , let me just state it again.
I opposed the AP because it fell way short of what it was set out to achieve ie the unification of our island . I strongly objected to the guarantor powers offered to Turkey over the whole of Cyprus. I opposed the flying of the Greek flag and Turkish flag on Cyprus's Police stations since that meant Greece and Turkey were the masters of Cyprus and not the Cypriot people.
I support our government's efforts in maintaining the current embargoes in place and in steadfastly refusing to accommodate any act, apart from humanitarian ones , that would in some way bestow even the slightest amount of acceptance and recognition of the "TRNC"
I CONSIDER THAT THE T/C PEOPLE HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE IN CYPRUS AND TO CLAIM IT THEIR OWN AS WE THE G/Cs HAVE . THOSE WHOSE ALLEGIANCE IS TO EITHER GREECE OR TURKEY HAVE NO SUCH RIGHT !!
I have noted your "authoritarian instructions" forbidding me from , as you say , misinterpreting your views !! May I say what an ignorant sod you are and what an insolent one too !!
Get lost Stupid !!

Again, you misinterpret my post as you failed to recognise to whom that comment was made to. My family has also every right to lodge claims against Turkey in the ECHR. It is Turkey that has invaded and ethnically cleansed 200,000 Cypriots and for this there must be justice. And I make no apologies for my comments. You, twist this in a way to insinuate that this is not constructive to a peaceful solution. Perhaps you think my language may be a little too harsh. This may be true, but then again, my wife is forbidden from enjoying her very own house along with thousands of others. Therefore, I feel entitled and at liberty to express myself any way I wish. I was never bought up to beat around the bush.

Every Cypriot recognises the fact that TCs have as much right to Cyprus as the GCs. However, the TCs are going far beyond this and demanding gains on our loses which if they materialise will open a pandora's box of bloodshed in the future. WAKE UP! This is exactly what they want. Their Guarantor Power, will then allow them to invade once again.

You have failed to specify what solution you support. Do you support a True federation based on 1 man, 1 vote? Or do you support Confederacy with unequal political representation which would mean that 1 TC vote = 4.5 GC votes? I can tell you that the current status quo is better than the latter.

I await with baited breath.

Paphitis , your case IS NOT unique , thousands of Cypriots have been displaced and their ancestral homes usurped , you don't have to lecture me on what has and is still going on in Cyprus. Where we differ is the means to be used in order to arrive at a peaceful solution that satisfies at least the majority of Cypriots. We G/Cs will never get all that we want and the same applies to the T/Cs . A compromise must be found and agreed upon , please don't ask silly childish questions insinuating that I might be in support of anything less than a democratic solution based on the very fundamentals of democracy.

Miltiades, if you would like to continue this then I suggest you open a new thread as we have hijacked this one and we are off topic.

Lets allow Cyprus Forum members the opportunity to discuss the important topic of the impending disaster that awaits us on the 21 Dec 12 when the planet Nibirou collides with planet earth and ends the human race for all time.

[IcyNoAngel]

Ya, let's get back to this, finally.

So, what are your plans people for 21st dec 2012? huh, huh?

I think a big big party will change the course of that planet

[webbo]

Ya, let's get back to this, finally.

So, what are your plans people for 21st dec 2012? huh, huh?

I think a big big party will change the course of that planet

Are we invited to your party then IcyNoAngel?

(pretty please!)

bubbles x

[Eliko]

miltiades, if you don't mind me saying so, one could easily agree with some of the negative points Paphitis has raised in characterizing you, (perhaps a little more kindly may have been appropriate considering your age and the respect it should be given).

In my own view, I have noticed that you are at all times quite adamant in supporting whatever negotiations or actions the West either suggests or participates in.

Such an outlook cannot be constructive since it is an indication of 'Blind Faith' and complete lack of personal judgement and opinion.

If one relies on the statements and exhortations of politicians, (particularly when they have been exposed as 'Liars' severally in recent times) one can hardly be surprised to receive such appraisals the like of which Paphitis has endowed upon you.

There is little point in constantly repeating the words and highlighting the deeds of those that have been proven wrong, surely a little consideration should be given to the fact that the entire civilized world is frowning upon recent political events.

I honestly feel that you have allowed yourself to be so influenced by the 'Weasel Words' of those who are in power, that you have destroyed your own capacity to draw logical conclusions amid the obvious misdemeanours perpetrated by those that are supposed to represent us all.

Perhaps you feel comfortable assuming that you are on the winning side ?, I fear you may be in for something of a shock when 'TRUTH' finally reveals itself to us all.

No disrespect intended to you personally miltiades, just an observation based on the majority of your past posts.

As to the destruction of mankind, I think the West are doing a very good job currently.

Best Wishes to you and your family.

In an effort to get back on topic, it occurs to me that the whole suggestion that the 'Earth' is in some danger of destruction due to the collision orbit of 'Planet X Nibirou (Nibiru) could be a well thought out farce.

How many people around the world will now become transfixed with the notion that we are in imminent danger of extinction ?, such a fear (if instilled in the minds of those gullible enough to accept such a possibility) will give the 'Green Light' to those in power to advance their own agendas for greater control of the masses.

A very well tried and tested political ploy, create a situation which diverts attention to that which is really taking place and in so doing, monumental changes may take place with scant notice being taken of them.

If we ARE in such mortal danger, there is little point in worrying about it, technology will prevail (one hopes) and if it does not we may console ourselves with the knowledge that at last, 'Mankind will have achieved Unity'.

As in chess, King or Pawn, at the end of the game all are cast into the same box of obscurity.

[miltiades]

I gave my answer to the solution earlier on in this thread !!

[CanDiaz]

Make it a VIP of this forum & make it only post in the "Cyprus Problem" section of this forum. If that doesn't kill it, nothing will.

[Eliko]

I gave my answer to the solution earlier on in this thread !!

And a very profound answer too (if I may be so bold miltiades).

The idea of a 'Rambo' type character coming to the aid of humanity WOULD fit nicely into the mind-set of one so well influenced by the American public's usual interpretation of problem solving.

Perhaps a film could be made of it like 'The War of the Worlds' which prompted many of the American people to leap from the windows of sky-scrapers in order to avoid capture by the aliens.

Even better if the 'Hero' was a Black man, think of the advantages such a scenario would present to Obama, possibly shortly to become President of that nation (one would hope), the world 'FREED' from the possibility of destruction by a person whose ancestry were subjected to the 'BOND' of slavery for so long.

As the Irish/American wife once said of her husband, "He's not a bad man but he is a bit of a '20th Century Foxer'" (she was being polite I think).

Or typically Irish (God Bless them ALL) for I think she meant to say, "He's not a bad man but he is a bit of a ' J Arthur Ranker'"

[IcyNoAngel]

Ya, let's get back to this, finally.

So, what are your plans people for 21st dec 2012? huh, huh?

I think a big big party will change the course of that planet

Are we invited to your party then IcyNoAngel?

(pretty please!)

bubbles x

Sure
There's always time for a party, even though noting will actually happen that day, at least a party to have.
This is the good way of thinking.

miltiades is not invited