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[laptachap]

lol It did get em going " the rascist" bunch of thugs that respond to anything pro turkish, Made me smile.

[Oracle]

Congratulations you have received the ultimate respect.

Your lies are no different to your "truths" ... You are the masters of the perfectly executed lie....

Enjoy your falsehood ... clearly you have worked hard for it . Take pride in your lies. It is all you have left.

This says more about McCain and may serve as a wake-up-call to those that can make a difference; with whom precisely the US would be allying with, should the unlikely happen and McCain be let loose to carry on the legacy of Bush ....

Still, at least we have Kifeas .... we'll be OK

[Viewpoint]

I was gonna mention the Obama comments. LapithosChap's (use the real name) article was the same Obama article in a Greek newspaper, which he declared support to Greece on a number of issues, except the words Obama was swapped with McCain and switched other words around to make McCain sound pro-Turkish.

What kinda sad bastard would do that? lol

Or post it in a forum??

The White Americans are far from electing a black president and the likelihood of assasination is very high.

Well he's got far enough in the elections dont you think?? He's the main Democrat contender - SOME whites must have voted for him.

I dunno about assassination - unless you VP are going to call in your Grey Wolves friends??

VP its best you dont comment on international politics and affairs - you've already made a fool of yourself more than once.

You obviously haven't been to the USA, these people are still very racist just like the GCs and believe they are the chosen race again just like the GCs, whites may have voted for Obama but in the general election there will not be enough of them to get him in, Clinton would have been a better match for McCain, who is now guaranteed presidency.

[Viewpoint]

The White Americans are far from electing a black president and the likelihood of assasination is very high.

This might be a wishful thinking on your part, being that the Democrats will be opening up some sensitive issues that will not be beneficial to Turkey or for the "trnc". Since there has not been any assassination attempts on any previous blacks running for Presidency, there isn't any precedence you can point to when you make your remarks, therefore, it can only be a wishful thinking on your part, which is very sad indeed.

The days of NeoCons will be gone for a while and Turkey will need to learn to do without them for a while.!!!

Has there ever been a black President? assasiation theory will imo only happen if elected, the Americans have not developed enough to accept a black leader.

[Viewpoint]

Solution to the Cypro is upon us boys and girls ........ not because the humanists and viewpoints of this world wants it to be so. But because the powers that be have decided so.

So lets get lovin each other cause we'll be living together :):):):):):):)

Says who? there doesnt seem to be any progress being made, one step forward 3 steps back, the general air in the TRNC at the moment is one of dis-interest, been there dont it seen it before.

[miltiades]

I was gonna mention the Obama comments. LapithosChap's (use the real name) article was the same Obama article in a Greek newspaper, which he declared support to Greece on a number of issues, except the words Obama was swapped with McCain and switched other words around to make McCain sound pro-Turkish.

What kinda sad bastard would do that? lol

Or post it in a forum??

The White Americans are far from electing a black president and the likelihood of assasination is very high.

Well he's got far enough in the elections dont you think?? He's the main Democrat contender - SOME whites must have voted for him.

I dunno about assassination - unless you VP are going to call in your Grey Wolves friends??

VP its best you dont comment on international politics and affairs - you've already made a fool of yourself more than once.

You obviously haven't been to the USA, these people are still very racist just like the GCs and believe they are the chosen race again just like the GCs, whites may have voted for Obama but in the general election there will not be enough of them to get him in, Clinton would have been a better match for McCain, who is now guaranteed presidency.

VP , I think you are confusing the USA with Turkey !!
The American people are a mix from numerous countries and "ethnicities , English , Irish , Italians , Eastern Europeans ,Greeks Hispanics and others , to generalise as you do ""these people are still very racist just like the GCs "" is frankly pure nonsense .
I think you are confusing the proudness of a nation with racism , and if this is the case then Turkey is a prime example !!!
The American people are right in being proud of being Americans , the land of opportunity where your meagre background is not a hindrance in reaching the top as in the case now of Obama .
Millions of people today are queuing up and dreaming of that coveted Green Card , no other nation on earth through out history has had such a magnetic effect on immigrants from the four corners of the world.
Obama has as good a chance as McCain to become the next President .

[Nikitas]

If Americans are so racist that they would not vote for a black person, then how come Obama got to be elected senator? Or is this racism active only in the presidential race?

As for the McCain statements above they are highly suspect. It has been the Republican administration's policy to support the ecumenical nature of the patriarchate. They have done so repeatedly and to say that their candidate stated that he is going to change this long held policy sounds weird. There are reasons beyond Turkey-Cyprus for upholding the ecumenical nature of the patriarchate.

And what is the position of Turkey in the Skopje name dispute? Turkey has a dispute with Skopje?

As for Cyprus what I see is precisely what Greece wants, solution under the UN and EU principles.

[Viewpoint]

I was gonna mention the Obama comments. LapithosChap's (use the real name) article was the same Obama article in a Greek newspaper, which he declared support to Greece on a number of issues, except the words Obama was swapped with McCain and switched other words around to make McCain sound pro-Turkish.

What kinda sad bastard would do that? lol

Or post it in a forum??

The White Americans are far from electing a black president and the likelihood of assasination is very high.

Well he's got far enough in the elections dont you think?? He's the main Democrat contender - SOME whites must have voted for him.

I dunno about assassination - unless you VP are going to call in your Grey Wolves friends??

VP its best you dont comment on international politics and affairs - you've already made a fool of yourself more than once.

You obviously haven't been to the USA, these people are still very racist just like the GCs and believe they are the chosen race again just like the GCs, whites may have voted for Obama but in the general election there will not be enough of them to get him in, Clinton would have been a better match for McCain, who is now guaranteed presidency.

VP , I think you are confusing the USA with Turkey !!
The American people are a mix from numerous countries and "ethnicities , English , Irish , Italians , Eastern Europeans ,Greeks Hispanics and others , to generalise as you do ""these people are still very racist just like the GCs "" is frankly pure nonsense .
I think you are confusing the proudness of a nation with racism , and if this is the case then Turkey is a prime example !!!
The American people are right in being proud of being Americans , the land of opportunity where your meagre background is not a hindrance in reaching the top as in the case now of Obama .
Millions of people today are queuing up and dreaming of that coveted Green Card , no other nation on earth through out history has had such a magnetic effect on immigrants from the four corners of the world.
Obama has as good a chance as McCain to become the next President .

The deciding factor in this case will be the all white mid-west American , these people are still very raw and naively believe whites are the superior race, they know nothing of the outside world and would rather die than see a black president.

[Kikapu]

You obviously haven't been to the USA, these people are still very racist just like the GCs and believe they are the chosen race again just like the GCs, whites may have voted for Obama but in the general election there will not be enough of them to get him in, Clinton would have been a better match for McCain, who is now guaranteed presidency.

I cant believe that you can make such a sweeping statement about the States, when you have made only one or two trip to visit Disneyland and had a conversation with Micky Mouse.!!

Sure there are racist people in the USA, just as there are racist people everywhere, including the "trnc". Look at the views by the NeoPartitionist which is nothing short of a Fascistic and Racist views towards anyone who does not buy into their Racist and Fascistic ideology, which you are one of them. I can only wish that the amount of progress made by the Americans in Civil Rights for all Americans since the 1950's where Racism, segregation, 2nd class treatment of the blacks with
"seperate but equal" policies can be adopted by the "trnc" and not wish for the return of the 2004 Annan Plan, which had many of the elements of the above, on how the blacks were treated. Under the AP and what you want today, is hardly anything different in wanting for the GC's who may choose to live in the north. You have not progressed at all, but I'm very happy to report to you, that America has changed from the dark days of the 50's and prior going back to the slavery days of the blacks.

"Time does not stand still" which you are having a very hard time understanding that concept. You are the equivalent of the 1950's white American mentality that you carry with you today, that you believe, that the TC's and GC's cannot live together and continue try to poison the minds of others in accepting your twisted ideology. You are that Racist white American from the 50's who would openly not accept the blacks as being citizens of the USA but an inferior race. This is of course what you accuse the GC's of towards the TC's, but fail to see your own actions at the same time.

No VP, the whites did not just "may have" voted for Obama during the primaries, they actually did, by huge numbers, along with the Latinos. The blacks only represent 10% of the US population, and even then, over 50% never voted before, so Obama's support is 90+ % are non blacks, and the same will be in the General elections. These former slaves have accepted their numerical numbers as being a minority and against all odds, one of them WILL become the next President of the United States of America, all the while you are searching for ways to implement Racist and Fascistic policies in Cyprus for Cypriots. I find that to be very embarrassing in today's times, specially for those who share your views.

Clinton could have also won, despite her "heavy baggage" of not being liked by most Americans. Clinton may have had more favourable policies towards Turkey as did her husband Bill, but I believe Obama will take the country and our foreign policies into a new direction from "doing business as usual" with countries that does not respect Democracy and Freedom of Speech, and also not allowing free pass to Fascist leaders, as well as making those countries accountable for their past criminal activities in treatment of other minorities and illegal occupations of others land.

Has there ever been a black President? assasiation theory will imo only happen if elected, the Americans have not developed enough to accept a black leader.

You are wrong VP. If anyone wanted to get Obama, they will want to do it now, where he is much more "available" then after becoming President. I'm sure there are several nut cases from the KKK and NeoNazi groups would like to get to him, but it will not happen, because over 90% of the people that will be putting Obama in the White House, will be non blacks.

The deciding factor in this case will be the all white mid-west American , these people are still very raw and naively believe whites are the superior race, they know nothing of the outside world and would rather die than see a black president.

Americans have become more and more a "colour blind" society that you think. Gay marriages are more of an issue for the religious Right white Americans than Racial marriages. Middle Americans may be ignorant about the rest of the world, and most have not even ventured outside their own states, but your meeting with Micky Mouse is also no gauge as to how much you know about Americans in general. What most Americans want and they don't really care too much which President helps them, is to be able to make a living, maintain their life styles, keeping their own family values and religion, and respecting the Constitution of the United States, which George Bush and the NeoCons violated many times in the last 8 years, and we are not going to give McCain the chance to do the same............sorry.!!

America has continually grown and evolved from their past ugly history which they have learned a great deal from. Is it perfect yet??........NO, but have come a long way at the same time. This is what we the Cypriots can learn from America and how their
Multi Multi Multi ethnic groups have accepted their place in the American society and became part of it and not rejected it, and apart from gaining extra protection for some of the minorities at certain times in the past, the minorities were not given Undemocratic and Racist "safeguards" over the rest of others, and as a result, Obama can be very proud to have gotten this far on his own, which can only be respected, because he was not given a "free ride", just because he is a minority.

[laptachap]

if people put as much effort into LOVING as they do to hating on here it would be a better place.

Why is is all the world hates uk and usa but they are all doing their hardest to get in there ??