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Postby humanist » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:49 pm

oh that one ....... am onto it now ;)
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Postby Jerry » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:51 pm

miltiades wrote:Since 90% of Cypriots are anti American why worry whether the next president of the USA is pro Turkish or not , after all WE HATE the Americans dont we Kipriake Lae , so why should we demand that America support us. !!


I think that it's because America does not support us and favours Turkey that it is hated by so many GCs. If the GCs wanted to "turn" the US they could learn a few lessons from the Israelis.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:59 pm

Jerry wrote:
miltiades wrote:Since 90% of Cypriots are anti American why worry whether the next president of the USA is pro Turkish or not , after all WE HATE the Americans dont we Kipriake Lae , so why should we demand that America support us. !!


I think that it's because America does not support us and favours Turkey that it is hated by so many GCs. If the GCs wanted to "turn" the US they could learn a few lessons from the Israelis.

What we fail to see is that America , like all previous world super powers , HAS to support its own interests and be friendly with those nations that best serve her interests , this has , throughout history , been the deciding factor in forging alliances , nothing to do with justice unfortunately. When we begin to understand our " hand" then we can play accordingly , unfortunately very few of us know how to play the political card.
Turkey does , and does it well too !!
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:03 pm

Jerry wrote:
miltiades wrote:Since 90% of Cypriots are anti American why worry whether the next president of the USA is pro Turkish or not , after all WE HATE the Americans dont we Kipriake Lae , so why should we demand that America support us. !!


I think that it's because America does not support us and favours Turkey that it is hated by so many GCs. If the GCs wanted to "turn" the US they could learn a few lessons from the Israelis.

Did anyone else just see rationality zoom out the window at mach 4? :?
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Postby Eliko » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:06 pm

miltiades wrote:Since 90% of Cypriots are anti American why worry whether the next president of the USA is pro Turkish or not , after all WE HATE the Americans dont we Kipriake Lae , so why should we demand that America support us. !!



miltiades, I think your statement is rather unfair, you assume that because many Cypriots (in common with many other nationalities) are disgusted with the administration of the American Government's home and foreign policies, they must HATE Americans.

If there be any 'Hatreds', they would be of the actions of the nation rather than the nation itself. therefore I dispute your claim.

As to your assertion that 90% of Cypriots are anti-American, one wonders just where you have obtained such precise details.

Given that there are T/C and G/C 'Cypriots' and assuming that the T/C's would be more in concert with American policies, your theory must be a figment of your imagination.

In my humble opinion. :wink:
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Postby Jerry » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:13 pm

miltiades wrote:
Jerry wrote:
miltiades wrote:Since 90% of Cypriots are anti American why worry whether the next president of the USA is pro Turkish or not , after all WE HATE the Americans dont we Kipriake Lae , so why should we demand that America support us. !!


I think that it's because America does not support us and favours Turkey that it is hated by so many GCs. If the GCs wanted to "turn" the US they could learn a few lessons from the Israelis.

What we fail to see is that America , like all previous world super powers , HAS to support its own interests and be friendly with those nations that best serve her interests , this has , throughout history , been the deciding factor in forging alliances , nothing to do with justice unfortunately. When we begin to understand our " hand" then we can play accordingly , unfortunately very few of us know how to play the political card.
Turkey does , and does it well too !!


Turkey doesn't really have to do anything Miltiades, it's Turkey's location that the US appreciates. The US will bend over backwards to keep Turkey sweet, take the refusal to allow US troops to enter Iraq from the north for instance. The only card we could play would be to employ the same tactics as the Israelis and even the the odds would be against us.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The White Americans are far from electing a black president and the likelihood of assasination is very high.


This might be a wishful thinking on your part, being that the Democrats will be opening up some sensitive issues that will not be beneficial to Turkey or for the "trnc". Since there has not been any assassination attempts on any previous blacks running for Presidency, there isn't any precedence you can point to when you make your remarks, therefore, it can only be a wishful thinking on your part, which is very sad indeed.

The days of NeoCons will be gone for a while and Turkey will need to learn to do without them for a while.!!!
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Postby humanist » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:50 pm

Solution to the Cypro is upon us boys and girls ........ not because the humanists and viewpoints of this world wants it to be so. But because the powers that be have decided so.

So lets get lovin each other cause we'll be living together ;):):):):):):):)
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Postby miltiades » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:00 am

Eliko wrote:
miltiades wrote:Since 90% of Cypriots are anti American why worry whether the next president of the USA is pro Turkish or not , after all WE HATE the Americans dont we Kipriake Lae , so why should we demand that America support us. !!



miltiades, I think your statement is rather unfair, you assume that because many Cypriots (in common with many other nationalities) are disgusted with the administration of the American Government's home and foreign policies, they must HATE Americans.

If there be any 'Hatreds', they would be of the actions of the nation rather than the nation itself. therefore I dispute your claim.

As to your assertion that 90% of Cypriots are anti-American, one wonders just where you have obtained such precise details.

Given that there are T/C and G/C 'Cypriots' and assuming that the T/C's would be more in concert with American policies, your theory must be a figment of your imagination.

In my humble opinion. :wink:

You are absolutely correct , the Cubans , Iranians , the Taliban , Iraqi insurgents , African despots , all hate America along with the 90% of G/Cs a figure that you seem to dispute !! Take this forum , how many G/Cs post , how many support America ??
I DO 100% and hope that one day the G/C people would start looking after their interests and start supporting the worlds' superpower for their own benefit .
Our interests are best served making friends with the powerful and influential nations , do not underestimate the power of the Western world !!
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:23 am

humanist wrote:Solution to the Cypro is upon us boys and girls ........ not because the humanists and viewpoints of this world wants it to be so. But because the powers that be have decided so.

So lets get lovin each other cause we'll be living together ;):):):):):):):)
Who gets VP in this love-in?
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