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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:25 pm

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I forgot you don't cope with irony / sarcasm!


:roll: Ah, I see. In Oracle's private fantastical universe irony is redefined as 'getting all the facts wrong.'

And if you have got a copy of Capital try reading it rather than thumbing it. Nobody who has even skimmed Capital could have confused part one of the Manifesto for a part of Capital.


You are a desperate soul .... :roll:

Where would I have got the association to Das Kapital from and related it to your overly long post as a sarcastic comment, since your link made no reference to it, if I wasn't manifestly aware of the difference as well as connection, enough to make irony of the fact .... which I must remember in future due to your autism, I had best leave alone or suffer ever more trying to make you comprehend how fully-functioning forumers cope with comments! (Rhetorical!)

Thank you but thumbing it suits me fine ... I don't need another dictatorial Bible instructing me on how to live my life. I'll leave that to "followers" / sheep like you.



O, dear. Have you ever thought of writing a book on 'How to ..ss people Off. You sure are the 'Mother of all Mistresses'. :lol:
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Postby CopperLine » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:26 pm

You really are an ass Oracle.

Capital doesn't say anything about how to lead your life. You clearly haven't read a word of it.

Start with the first paragraphs of Capital I :
The wealth of those societies in which the capitalist mode of production prevails, presents itself as “an immense accumulation of commodities,”[1] its unit being a single commodity. Our investigation must therefore begin with the analysis of a commodity.

A commodity is, in the first place, an object outside us, a thing that by its properties satisfies human wants of some sort or another. The nature of such wants, whether, for instance, they spring from the stomach or from fancy, makes no difference.[2] Neither are we here concerned to know how the object satisfies these wants, whether directly as means of subsistence, or indirectly as means of production.

Every useful thing, as iron, paper, &c., may be looked at from the two points of view of quality and quantity. It is an assemblage of many properties, and may therefore be of use in various ways. To discover the various uses of things is the work of history.[3] So also is the establishment of socially-recognized standards of measure for the quantities of these useful objects. The diversity of these measures has its origin partly in the diverse nature of the objects to be measured, partly in convention.


And so it goes on for hundreds of pages : nowhere does it tell you how to lead your life. You just make things up.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:31 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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CopperLine wrote:
I forgot you don't cope with irony / sarcasm!


:roll: Ah, I see. In Oracle's private fantastical universe irony is redefined as 'getting all the facts wrong.'

And if you have got a copy of Capital try reading it rather than thumbing it. Nobody who has even skimmed Capital could have confused part one of the Manifesto for a part of Capital.


You are a desperate soul .... :roll:

Where would I have got the association to Das Kapital from and related it to your overly long post as a sarcastic comment, since your link made no reference to it, if I wasn't manifestly aware of the difference as well as connection, enough to make irony of the fact .... which I must remember in future due to your autism, I had best leave alone or suffer ever more trying to make you comprehend how fully-functioning forumers cope with comments! (Rhetorical!)

Thank you but thumbing it suits me fine ... I don't need another dictatorial Bible instructing me on how to live my life. I'll leave that to "followers" / sheep like you.



O, dear. Have you ever thought of writing a book on 'How to ..ss people Off. You sure are the 'Mother of all Mistresses'. :lol:


Deniz ... kindly respect our private jokes and not post them on the forum ... :wink:

.... or you won't be dipping into any more! :lol:

P.S. Off!
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Postby Jerry » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:35 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
I forgot you don't cope with irony / sarcasm!


:roll: Ah, I see. In Oracle's private fantastical universe irony is redefined as 'getting all the facts wrong.'

And if you have got a copy of Capital try reading it rather than thumbing it. Nobody who has even skimmed Capital could have confused part one of the Manifesto for a part of Capital.


You are a desperate soul .... :roll:

Where would I have got the association to Das Kapital from and related it to your overly long post as a sarcastic comment, since your link made no reference to it, if I wasn't manifestly aware of the difference as well as connection, enough to make irony of the fact .... which I must remember in future due to your autism, I had best leave alone or suffer ever more trying to make you comprehend how fully-functioning forumers cope with comments! (Rhetorical!)

Thank you but thumbing it suits me fine ... I don't need another dictatorial Bible instructing me on how to live my life. I'll leave that to "followers" / sheep like you.



O, dear. Have you ever thought of writing a book on 'How to ..ss people Off. You sure are the 'Mother of all Mistresses'. :lol:


Deniz ... kindly respect our private jokes and not post them on the forum ... :wink:

.... or you won't be dipping into any more! :lol:

P.S. Off!


They are not private if posted on the forum, as I have just demonstrated :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:38 pm

Jerry wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
I forgot you don't cope with irony / sarcasm!


:roll: Ah, I see. In Oracle's private fantastical universe irony is redefined as 'getting all the facts wrong.'

And if you have got a copy of Capital try reading it rather than thumbing it. Nobody who has even skimmed Capital could have confused part one of the Manifesto for a part of Capital.


You are a desperate soul .... :roll:

Where would I have got the association to Das Kapital from and related it to your overly long post as a sarcastic comment, since your link made no reference to it, if I wasn't manifestly aware of the difference as well as connection, enough to make irony of the fact .... which I must remember in future due to your autism, I had best leave alone or suffer ever more trying to make you comprehend how fully-functioning forumers cope with comments! (Rhetorical!)

Thank you but thumbing it suits me fine ... I don't need another dictatorial Bible instructing me on how to live my life. I'll leave that to "followers" / sheep like you.



O, dear. Have you ever thought of writing a book on 'How to ..ss people Off. You sure are the 'Mother of all Mistresses'. :lol:


Deniz ... kindly respect our private jokes and not post them on the forum ... :wink:

.... or you won't be dipping into any more! :lol:

P.S. Off!


They are not private if posted on the forum, as I have just demonstrated :lol: :lol: :lol:



Its up to O to leave privates alone, otherwise we will jump to conclusions. :lol:

What are PMs for anyway? :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:43 pm

CopperLine wrote:You really are an ass Oracle.

Capital doesn't say anything about how to lead your life. You clearly haven't read a word of it.

Start with the first paragraphs of Capital I :
The wealth of those societies in which the capitalist mode of production prevails, presents itself as “an immense accumulation of commodities,”[1] its unit being a single commodity. Our investigation must therefore begin with the analysis of a commodity.

A commodity is, in the first place, an object outside us, a thing that by its properties satisfies human wants of some sort or another. The nature of such wants, whether, for instance, they spring from the stomach or from fancy, makes no difference.[2] Neither are we here concerned to know how the object satisfies these wants, whether directly as means of subsistence, or indirectly as means of production.

Every useful thing, as iron, paper, &c., may be looked at from the two points of view of quality and quantity. It is an assemblage of many properties, and may therefore be of use in various ways. To discover the various uses of things is the work of history.[3] So also is the establishment of socially-recognized standards of measure for the quantities of these useful objects. The diversity of these measures has its origin partly in the diverse nature of the objects to be measured, partly in convention.


And so it goes on for hundreds of pages : nowhere does it tell you how to lead your life. You just make things up.


...Yes! .... and all clearly way above your head ..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Millions Leave Britain ..... Mass Exodus!

Postby bigdog » Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:44 pm

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For it is their children that are having to compete with the better-educated, hard-working immigrants like the Poles ... and failing miserably ...

I blame the education system in the UK .....


I am working on a construction in Sheffield at the moment . Once or twice a week I get agency's offering semi skilled Polish labour for £6.00 per hour , are own semi skilled labourers are paid between £9.00 and £11.00 per hour , is this not undercutting the British worker ?


Bigdog


I sympathise with what you are saying but the problem is not British worker against Polish worker, or British job against Polish job. The problem is, and always has been, workers pitched against workers. The rationality between the entire system of capitalism is to force workers to compete and drive costs (in the form of wages) down. (Or, to use the jargon, force up the rate of extraction of surplus value i.e, 'profit'). Immigrant workers wherever they are from and wherever they find work are simply trying to earn money. They're not trying to put someone else out of a job.

In any case there is no such thing as a 'British job'. It is not foreign workers who have to be feared for undercutting wage levels, it is national employers who will, at the drop of a hat, sell your job to China or India (or Poland).

In 1848 it was explained like this [emphasis added]. It still applies today :

"The feudal system of industry, in which industrial production was monopolised by closed guilds, now no longer sufficed for the growing wants of the new markets. The manufacturing system took its place. The guild-masters were pushed on one side by the manufacturing middle class; division of labour between the different corporate guilds vanished in the face of division of labour in each single workshop.

Meantime the markets kept ever growing, the demand ever rising. Even manufacturer no longer sufficed. Thereupon, steam and machinery revolutionised industrial production. The place of manufacture was taken by the giant, Modern Industry; the place of the industrial middle class by industrial millionaires, the leaders of the whole industrial armies, the modern bourgeois.

Modern industry has established the world market, for which the discovery of America paved the way. This market has given an immense development to commerce, to navigation, to communication by land. This development has, in its turn, reacted on the extension of industry; and in proportion as industry, commerce, navigation, railways extended, in the same proportion the bourgeoisie developed, increased its capital, and pushed into the background every class handed down from the Middle Ages.

We see, therefore, how the modern bourgeoisie is itself the product of a long course of development, of a series of revolutions in the modes of production and of exchange.

Each step in the development of the bourgeoisie was accompanied by a corresponding political advance of that class. An oppressed class under the sway of the feudal nobility, an armed and self-governing association in the medieval commune(4): here independent urban republic (as in Italy and Germany); there taxable “third estate” of the monarchy (as in France); afterwards, in the period of manufacturing proper, serving either the semi-feudal or the absolute monarchy as a counterpoise against the nobility, and, in fact, cornerstone of the great monarchies in general, the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative State, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.

The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part.

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.

The bourgeoisie has disclosed how it came to pass that the brutal display of vigour in the Middle Ages, which reactionaries so much admire, found its fitting complement in the most slothful indolence. It has been the first to show what man’s activity can bring about. It has accomplished wonders far surpassing Egyptian pyramids, Roman aqueducts, and Gothic cathedrals; it has conducted expeditions that put in the shade all former Exoduses of nations and crusades.

The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere.

The bourgeoisie has through its exploitation of the world market given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. To the great chagrin of Reactionists, it has drawn from under the feet of industry the national ground on which it stood. All old-established national industries have been destroyed or are daily being destroyed. They are dislodged by new industries, whose introduction becomes a life and death question for all civilised nations, by industries that no longer work up indigenous raw material, but raw material drawn from the remotest zones; industries whose products are consumed, not only at home, but in every quarter of the globe. In place of the old wants, satisfied by the production of the country, we find new wants, requiring for their satisfaction the products of distant lands and climes. In place of the old local and national seclusion and self-sufficiency, we have intercourse in every direction, universal inter-dependence of nations. And as in material, so also in intellectual production. The intellectual creations of individual nations become common property. National one-sidedness and narrow-mindedness become more and more impossible, and from the numerous national and local literatures, there arises a world literature.

The bourgeoisie, by the rapid improvement of all instruments of production, by the immensely facilitated means of communication, draws all, even the most barbarian, nations into civilisation. The cheap prices of commodities are the heavy artillery with which it batters down all Chinese walls, with which it forces the barbarians’ intensely obstinate hatred of foreigners to capitulate. It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.

The bourgeoisie has subjected the country to the rule of the towns. It has created enormous cities, has greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life. Just as it has made the country dependent on the towns, so it has made barbarian and semi-barbarian countries dependent on the civilised ones, nations of peasants on nations of bourgeois, the East on the West.

The bourgeoisie keeps more and more doing away with the scattered state of the population, of the means of production, and of property. It has agglomerated population, centralised the means of production, and has concentrated property in a few hands. The necessary consequence of this was political centralisation. Independent, or but loosely connected provinces, with separate interests, laws, governments, and systems of taxation, became lumped together into one nation, with one government, one code of laws, one national class-interest, one frontier, and one customs-tariff.

The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalisation of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground — what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labour?

We see then: the means of production and of exchange, on whose foundation the bourgeoisie built itself up, were generated in feudal society. At a certain stage in the development of these means of production and of exchange, the conditions under which feudal society produced and exchanged, the feudal organisation of agriculture and manufacturing industry, in one word, the feudal relations of property became no longer compatible with the already developed productive forces; they became so many fetters. They had to be burst asunder; they were burst asunder.

Into their place stepped free competition, accompanied by a social and political constitution adapted in it, and the economic and political sway of the bourgeois class.

A similar movement is going on before our own eyes. Modern bourgeois society, with its relations of production, of exchange and of property, a society that has conjured up such gigantic means of production and of exchange, is like the sorcerer who is no longer able to control the powers of the nether world whom he has called up by his spells. For many a decade past the history of industry and commerce is but the history of the revolt of modern productive forces against modern conditions of production, against the property relations that are the conditions for the existence of the bourgeois and of its rule. It is enough to mention the commercial crises that by their periodical return put the existence of the entire bourgeois society on its trial, each time more threateningly. In these crises, a great part not only of the existing products, but also of the previously created productive forces, are periodically destroyed. In these crises, there breaks out an epidemic that, in all earlier epochs, would have seemed an absurdity — the epidemic of over-production. Society suddenly finds itself put back into a state of momentary barbarism; it appears as if a famine, a universal war of devastation, had cut off the supply of every means of subsistence; industry and commerce seem to be destroyed; and why? Because there is too much civilisation, too much means of subsistence, too much industry, too much commerce. The productive forces at the disposal of society no longer tend to further the development of the conditions of bourgeois property; on the contrary, they have become too powerful for these conditions, by which they are fettered, and so soon as they overcome these fetters, they bring disorder into the whole of bourgeois society, endanger the existence of bourgeois property. The conditions of bourgeois society are too narrow to comprise the wealth created by them. And how does the bourgeoisie get over these crises? On the one hand by enforced destruction of a mass of productive forces; on the other, by the conquest of new markets, and by the more thorough exploitation of the old ones. That is to say, by paving the way for more extensive and more destructive crises, and by diminishing the means whereby crises are prevented."

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm


There is a bit of Polish worker against Polish worker going on , one lot are employed by a polish agency and the other lot are a Polish company set up Poles for poles . The company seem to have skilled men and pay a better wage than the agency who seem to employ chancers and pay chancers wages . These two sets of workers do not even speak to each other .
I have to be fair and say that I have had about ten local plumbers and fitters from a local agency and have only been able to keep four as the rest have been useless so there is good and bad everywhere .
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Postby Feisty » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:12 pm

miltiades wrote:
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To the first sentence of your tirade.
How exactly has quality of life been deteriorating for years?
What effect has immigration had on this so called deterioration? The fraudsters, single mothers and lazy scroungers you speak of are not usually immigrants but people who have been bought up generation after generation to live off benefits. Do you want to do the low paid jobs that most of the immigrants do to support their families? Or does it really stick in your throat that some of them set up successful businesses and become very rich?
How exactly is your quality of life being so affected by speed cameras which just force you to obey the law? Do you wish there to be no law? Are speeding drivers to be allowed to mow down and kill people at will? If you've had so many remonstrations with traffic directors why is it so difficult for you to just obey the law and make your own life so confrontation free?
If you want to complain about politicians living off the back of the taxpaper and live in a society where they don't exist I suggest you go and find some remote outpost in the world that won't even have electricity probably and then we won't have to read your ill informed rants and you won't have a car as there'll be no roads or petrol stations so you won't have to remonstrate with traffic directors.
Signed:
Not a plonker but someone who has seen their wealth rise steadily along with standard of living to a degree where it is greddily in excess of human needs like most of the western world.

We obviously view things with a different prospective , I can clearly see that you confuse deliberate ploys initiated by local authorities to raise revenue by ripping off the motorists as a means of reducing road accidents. It is not a question of obeying the law and neither is it a question of living in a lawless society I would have thought that as one who projects intentionally an image of a successful business woman would at least have the intelligence to understand my post and not denigrate it to bullocks, there again I do not expect much common sense from you , being coloured as you previously stated that all English people are coloured .
MADAM I THINK YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS IMPOSTER AND AS FOR BEING RICH AND SUCCESFULL MAY I SAY BULLOCKS TO THAT !!
WTF does this mean woman """someone who has seen their wealth rise steadily along with standard of living to a degree where it is greddily in excess of human needs like most of the western world.



I note you fail to answer quite how quality of life has deteriorated due to immigrants but will largely ignore it. You stated earlier that you found immigrants to be unsightly but I'd have to say I find bare fat midriffs due to beer swilling on girls along with the blokes they usually hang around with who are fat, shaven headed and covered with tattoos to be fairly off putting to anything.

Quite what I'm an imposter to I don't really see but I find most westerners have more than they can possibly need and live a decandent lifestyle. For instance today I have been working at an antiques fair where people spend hundreds of pounds on fripperies when there are people desperate for help all over the world. I don't try to exclude myself from this way of life but I certainly don't see any decline in quality of life.

Now back to speed cameras. If they exist to rip off motorists then it is only the motorist who is to blame if he gets 'ripped off' because he is only able to be 'ripped off' if he is breaking the law. Surely that concept is simple enough for you to understand. I tell you what, listen next week for the court case of the Plymouth Argyle goalkeeper who last week killed 2 little boys (8 and 10 years old) and put their father in intensive care because he was driving too fast, whilst over the drink drive limit and with no insurance. Perhaps if he'd been a little more respectful of the law those 2 little boys would still be alive.
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Postby bigdog » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:58 pm

Feisty wrote:
miltiades wrote:
fiesty wrote:
To the first sentence of your tirade.
How exactly has quality of life been deteriorating for years?
What effect has immigration had on this so called deterioration? The fraudsters, single mothers and lazy scroungers you speak of are not usually immigrants but people who have been bought up generation after generation to live off benefits. Do you want to do the low paid jobs that most of the immigrants do to support their families? Or does it really stick in your throat that some of them set up successful businesses and become very rich?
How exactly is your quality of life being so affected by speed cameras which just force you to obey the law? Do you wish there to be no law? Are speeding drivers to be allowed to mow down and kill people at will? If you've had so many remonstrations with traffic directors why is it so difficult for you to just obey the law and make your own life so confrontation free?
If you want to complain about politicians living off the back of the taxpayer and live in a society where they don't exist I suggest you go and find some remote outpost in the world that won't even have electricity probably and then we won't have to read your ill informed rants and you won't have a car as there'll be no roads or petrol stations so you won't have to remonstrate with traffic directors.
Signed:
Not a plonker but someone who has seen their wealth rise steadily along with standard of living to a degree where it is greddily in excess of human needs like most of the western world.

We obviously view things with a different prospective , I can clearly see that you confuse deliberate ploys initiated by local authorities to raise revenue by ripping off the motorists as a means of reducing road accidents. It is not a question of obeying the law and neither is it a question of living in a lawless society I would have thought that as one who projects intentionally an image of a successful business woman would at least have the intelligence to understand my post and not denigrate it to bullocks, there again I do not expect much common sense from you , being coloured as you previously stated that all English people are coloured .
MADAM I THINK YOU ARE A FIRST CLASS IMPOSTER AND AS FOR BEING RICH AND SUCCESFULL MAY I SAY BULLOCKS TO THAT !!
WTF does this mean woman """someone who has seen their wealth rise steadily along with standard of living to a degree where it is greddily in excess of human needs like most of the western world.



I note you fail to answer quite how quality of life has deteriorated due to immigrants but will largely ignore it. You stated earlier that you found immigrants to be unsightly but I'd have to say I find bare fat midriffs due to beer swilling on girls along with the blokes they usually hang around with who are fat, shaven headed and covered with tattoos to be fairly off putting to anything.

Quite what I'm an imposter to I don't really see but I find most westerners have more than they can possibly need and live a decandent lifestyle. For instance today I have been working at an antiques fair where people spend hundreds of pounds on fripperies when there are people desperate for help all over the world. I don't try to exclude myself from this way of life but I certainly don't see any decline in quality of life.

Now back to speed cameras. If they exist to rip off motorists then it is only the motorist who is to blame if he gets 'ripped off' because he is only able to be 'ripped off' if he is breaking the law. Surely that concept is simple enough for you to understand. I tell you what, listen next week for the court case of the Plymouth Argyle goalkeeper who last week killed 2 little boys (8 and 10 years old) and put their father in intensive care because he was driving too fast, whilst over the drink drive limit and with no insurance. Perhaps if he'd been a little more respectful of the law those 2 little boys would still be alive.


You are talking shit love ! There is a big difference between a dangerous driver and someone cought on a speed camara on an A road where the limit might change three times in one mile!
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Postby miltiades » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:26 pm

Or indeed a van driver stopping to drop a parcel of and the bloody camera gets him. I'm sick and tired of the Traffic Warden mentality aided and abated by such bloody morons such as this so called rich and successful woman. The increase of cameras has been as a result of local authorities and the Traffic Of London wankers realizing just how profitable these cameras are. The drunken driven will drive recklessly regardless whether a camera is there or not.
We suffer in London on a daily basis where in order to earn a living and keep Restaurant equipment working we have to send engineers in a van to carry out repairs. You have not a chance in hell in escaping a parking ticket , its a f..ng disgrace by a disgraced system that targets you for none other reason but to legally rob you.
Idiots who justify such daylight robberies do not themselves have to rely on their income deriving from offering a service that requires you to be in a van carrying tools etc and doing an honest days work.
I have taken the system on many times and have won the case but lost out financially since the time required to attend such cases is very costly.
I fail to see how can anyone not see that life in the UK is spiraling downwards , you can not take a step without some bloody camera recording your every move , without someone in uniform robbing you in daylight , without some one calling you in order to tell you , how may I deprive you of your cash Sir !!
You rarely see a policeman on the beat and if you do he is there to support a fucking traffic warden when faced with the wrath of Miltiades. !!
At 62 I ought to take it easy with TW but I will tell you I detest them , I dont give a shit if they are only doing their job , they deprive me of sufficient cash , average 10 thousand a year , for me to fly to Cyprus every weekend and have a good time. Bastards !!
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