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Postby Oracle » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:24 pm

Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:[Now you are beginning to understand their policy of "What is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine also!" :roll:


I was under the impression that both sides thought the same way.

You are the one constantly having a go at forum members living in and owning property in the north saying that they are thiefs when you know full well that there's land in the north owned by TC's pre 74 .

Just because you are a GC doesn't mean you own all of Cyprus :roll: .

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Silly billy ... I've never said TCs did not own land in the north pre-1974.

I am talking about the present day illegality of the country and ALL post-1974 transactions which would have needed the RoC Land Registry approval and would not have received it due to the occupation preventing their administration ........ and besides Turkey does not recognise the RoC so it does not instruct people as to what is legally accepted .. whereas the rest of the world does recognise the RoC and hence only its stamp approved transactions are binding......

You are a confused individual .... :roll:
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Postby Bill » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:41 pm

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Oracle wrote:[Now you are beginning to understand their policy of "What is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine also!" :roll:


I was under the impression that both sides thought the same way.

You are the one constantly having a go at forum members living in and owning property in the north saying that they are thiefs when you know full well that there's land in the north owned by TC's pre 74 .

Just because you are a GC doesn't mean you own all of Cyprus :roll: .

Bill


Silly billy ... I've never said TCs did not own land in the north pre-1974.

I am talking about the present day illegality of the country and ALL post-1974 transactions which would have needed the RoC Land Registry approval and would not have received it due to the occupation preventing their administration ........ and besides Turkey does not recognise the RoC so it does not instruct people as to what is legally accepted .. whereas the rest of the world does recognise the RoC and hence only its stamp approved transactions are binding......

You are a confused individual .... :roll:


Me confused ~ that's pretty rich coming from you :shock:

Oracle my dear it's also internationally acknowledged that since 74 you have no jurisdiction over the north .

It looks like the Greek and Turkish land registries will have a lot of catching up to do when there's an eventual solution.

I get this feeling that you are expecting just a wee bit to much from the proposed solution to the ongoing Cyprus problem.

You could ( and very likely will be ) very disappointed at the eventual outcome .

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Postby Oracle » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:59 pm

Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:[Now you are beginning to understand their policy of "What is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine also!" :roll:


I was under the impression that both sides thought the same way.

You are the one constantly having a go at forum members living in and owning property in the north saying that they are thiefs when you know full well that there's land in the north owned by TC's pre 74 .

Just because you are a GC doesn't mean you own all of Cyprus :roll: .

Bill


Silly billy ... I've never said TCs did not own land in the north pre-1974.

I am talking about the present day illegality of the country and ALL post-1974 transactions which would have needed the RoC Land Registry approval and would not have received it due to the occupation preventing their administration ........ and besides Turkey does not recognise the RoC so it does not instruct people as to what is legally accepted .. whereas the rest of the world does recognise the RoC and hence only its stamp approved transactions are binding......

You are a confused individual .... :roll:


Me confused ~ that's pretty rich coming from you :shock:

Oracle my dear it's also internationally acknowledged that since 74 you have no jurisdiction over the north .

It looks like the Greek and Turkish land registries will have a lot of catching up to do when there's an eventual solution.

I get this feeling that you are expecting just a wee bit to much from the proposed solution to the ongoing Cyprus problem.

You could ( and very likely will be ) very disappointed at the eventual outcome .

Bill


It's not as cut and dry as you wish to believe Bill.

From what I've gathered, there are moves afoot for owners of GC properties in the north to pay compensation for loss of enjoyment to the GC owners, as well as officially having a declaration that they are not the legal owners.

A number of these cases are going through the European Courts ... so if your land was bought after 1974 you had better make sure it did not belong to a GC. If it belonged to a TC and then sold after 1974, the paperwork will not be legal anyway.

Here GR! has a thread on this:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17775
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Postby DT. » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:25 am

Oracle wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:[Now you are beginning to understand their policy of "What is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine also!" :roll:


I was under the impression that both sides thought the same way.

You are the one constantly having a go at forum members living in and owning property in the north saying that they are thiefs when you know full well that there's land in the north owned by TC's pre 74 .

Just because you are a GC doesn't mean you own all of Cyprus :roll: .

Bill


Silly billy ... I've never said TCs did not own land in the north pre-1974.

I am talking about the present day illegality of the country and ALL post-1974 transactions which would have needed the RoC Land Registry approval and would not have received it due to the occupation preventing their administration ........ and besides Turkey does not recognise the RoC so it does not instruct people as to what is legally accepted .. whereas the rest of the world does recognise the RoC and hence only its stamp approved transactions are binding......

You are a confused individual .... :roll:


Me confused ~ that's pretty rich coming from you :shock:

Oracle my dear it's also internationally acknowledged that since 74 you have no jurisdiction over the north .

It looks like the Greek and Turkish land registries will have a lot of catching up to do when there's an eventual solution.

I get this feeling that you are expecting just a wee bit to much from the proposed solution to the ongoing Cyprus problem.

You could ( and very likely will be ) very disappointed at the eventual outcome .

Bill


It's not as cut and dry as you wish to believe Bill.

From what I've gathered, there are moves afoot for owners of GC properties in the north to pay compensation for loss of enjoyment to the GC owners, as well as officially having a declaration that they are not the legal owners.

A number of these cases are going through the European Courts ... so if your land was bought after 1974 you had better make sure it did not belong to a GC. If it belonged to a TC and then sold after 1974, the paperwork will not be legal anyway.

Here GR! has a thread on this:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17775


Fortunately she's right. Firstly you need to understand the difference between de facto and de jure. Once you understand the concept behind these then you'll better understand what the jurisdiction is over the occupied territories. Just because something is de facto does'nt mean the law cannot reverse it later on.

As far as EU citizens buying property, their govts have all issued warnings to their citizens via their resective foreign ministries. This renders your govt blameless if you lose your life savings by buying a stolen piece of property.

If you don;'t mind me asking was the property you own in the north GC owned or TC owned?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:30 am

DT. wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:[Now you are beginning to understand their policy of "What is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine also!" :roll:


I was under the impression that both sides thought the same way.

You are the one constantly having a go at forum members living in and owning property in the north saying that they are thiefs when you know full well that there's land in the north owned by TC's pre 74 .

Just because you are a GC doesn't mean you own all of Cyprus :roll: .

Bill


Silly billy ... I've never said TCs did not own land in the north pre-1974.

I am talking about the present day illegality of the country and ALL post-1974 transactions which would have needed the RoC Land Registry approval and would not have received it due to the occupation preventing their administration ........ and besides Turkey does not recognise the RoC so it does not instruct people as to what is legally accepted .. whereas the rest of the world does recognise the RoC and hence only its stamp approved transactions are binding......

You are a confused individual .... :roll:


Me confused ~ that's pretty rich coming from you :shock:

Oracle my dear it's also internationally acknowledged that since 74 you have no jurisdiction over the north .

It looks like the Greek and Turkish land registries will have a lot of catching up to do when there's an eventual solution.

I get this feeling that you are expecting just a wee bit to much from the proposed solution to the ongoing Cyprus problem.

You could ( and very likely will be ) very disappointed at the eventual outcome .

Bill


It's not as cut and dry as you wish to believe Bill.

From what I've gathered, there are moves afoot for owners of GC properties in the north to pay compensation for loss of enjoyment to the GC owners, as well as officially having a declaration that they are not the legal owners.

A number of these cases are going through the European Courts ... so if your land was bought after 1974 you had better make sure it did not belong to a GC. If it belonged to a TC and then sold after 1974, the paperwork will not be legal anyway.

Here GR! has a thread on this:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17775


Fortunately she's right. Firstly you need to understand the difference between de facto and de jure. Once you understand the concept behind these then you'll better understand what the jurisdiction is over the occupied territories. Just because something is de facto does'nt mean the law cannot reverse it later on.

As far as EU citizens buying property, their govts have all issued warnings to their citizens via their resective foreign ministries. This renders your govt blameless if you lose your life savings by buying a stolen piece of property.

If you don;'t mind me asking was the property you own in the north GC owned or TC owned?


This should be interesting! ... has anyone ever admitted to buying GC-owned :roll: ...
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Postby DT. » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:39 am

Its amazing isnt it 4/5ths of the property in the north is GC owned and not one TC, Turk, Expat has bought or lives in GC property. :lol:

Everyone is crammed into the 4 villages in the north were the TC's were majority.
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Postby halil » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:50 am

DT. wrote:Its amazing isnt it 4/5ths of the property in the north is GC owned and not one TC, Turk, Expat has bought or lives in GC property. :lol:

Everyone is crammed into the 4 villages in the north were the TC's were majority.


Tell me DT which villages they are ?
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Postby tessintrnc » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:52 am

Oracle wrote:
DT. wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Bill wrote:
Oracle wrote:[Now you are beginning to understand their policy of "What is yours is mine, and what is mine is mine also!" :roll:


I was under the impression that both sides thought the same way.

You are the one constantly having a go at forum members living in and owning property in the north saying that they are thiefs when you know full well that there's land in the north owned by TC's pre 74 .

Just because you are a GC doesn't mean you own all of Cyprus :roll: .

Bill


Silly billy ... I've never said TCs did not own land in the north pre-1974.

I am talking about the present day illegality of the country and ALL post-1974 transactions which would have needed the RoC Land Registry approval and would not have received it due to the occupation preventing their administration ........ and besides Turkey does not recognise the RoC so it does not instruct people as to what is legally accepted .. whereas the rest of the world does recognise the RoC and hence only its stamp approved transactions are binding......

You are a confused individual .... :roll:


Me confused ~ that's pretty rich coming from you :shock:

Oracle my dear it's also internationally acknowledged that since 74 you have no jurisdiction over the north .

It looks like the Greek and Turkish land registries will have a lot of catching up to do when there's an eventual solution.

I get this feeling that you are expecting just a wee bit to much from the proposed solution to the ongoing Cyprus problem.

You could ( and very likely will be ) very disappointed at the eventual outcome .

Bill


It's not as cut and dry as you wish to believe Bill.

From what I've gathered, there are moves afoot for owners of GC properties in the north to pay compensation for loss of enjoyment to the GC owners, as well as officially having a declaration that they are not the legal owners.

A number of these cases are going through the European Courts ... so if your land was bought after 1974 you had better make sure it did not belong to a GC. If it belonged to a TC and then sold after 1974, the paperwork will not be legal anyway.

Here GR! has a thread on this:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17775


Fortunately she's right. Firstly you need to understand the difference between de facto and de jure. Once you understand the concept behind these then you'll better understand what the jurisdiction is over the occupied territories. Just because something is de facto does'nt mean the law cannot reverse it later on.

As far as EU citizens buying property, their govts have all issued warnings to their citizens via their resective foreign ministries. This renders your govt blameless if you lose your life savings by buying a stolen piece of property.

If you don;'t mind me asking was the property you own in the north GC owned or TC owned?


This should be interesting! ... has anyone [b]ever admitted to buying GC-owned :roll: ...
[/b]

On this forum? No, I don't think I recall anyone admitting to that either!!! But, then again this forum is mainly a Cyprus problem "solving" forum. It is not in the best interests of the purchasers of Greek Cypriot owned properties to seek, lets say, a certain type of solution now is it? But there are plenty of forums dedicated to such purchasers, full of the usual complaining and whining.................
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Postby DT. » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:53 am

halil wrote:
DT. wrote:Its amazing isnt it 4/5ths of the property in the north is GC owned and not one TC, Turk, Expat has bought or lives in GC property. :lol:

Everyone is crammed into the 4 villages in the north were the TC's were majority.


Tell me DT which villages they are ?


Well apprently Krini is one of them Halil.
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Postby webbo » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:03 am

Eliko wrote:
Spanish_spinne wrote:As a Spaniard I had dedicated several posts to this matter. All the times I look at the developings in Cyprus it remind me what happens in Spain let's say 7 years ago. Hope that your nice country will not conitune following our path. You can see it was wrong and has driven our country to the actual crisis.

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