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Postby EPSILON » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:28 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:as long as you respect that Cyprus belong to TCs and GCs i have respect your last comment. what happen suddennly u changed ur atituade


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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:20 pm

you are not cypriot at all because u forgot that 259 million euros they giving us soon. why ??? because all cyprus in EU including our side
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Postby Troodo » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:58 am

I am not trying to be controversial here, I just want to understand. Why do the members of the international community accept the Republic of Cyprus as the legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus when, by their own laws, it is as illegal as the TRNC. The day they repealed the thirteen articles, and removed by force the Turkish Cypriots from the government, they smashed the constitution. Since then nothing has been done to change this. They could have drawn up a new constitution, leaving out the Turkish Cypriots, and presented it to the world. They knew this would be unacceptable so the illegal state of the Republic of Cyprus remains.
Any reasonable international layer knows that this is the case, yet Turkey is supposed to recognise this illegal state and open up her ports. Until this unfair situation is dealt with honestly, and the Turkish Cypriots treated with the respect they deserve, how can anyone expect a true and viable solution from either side.

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Postby Kifeas » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:29 am

Troodo wrote:I am not trying to be controversial here, I just want to understand. Why do the members of the international community accept the Republic of Cyprus as the legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus when, by their own laws, it is as illegal as the TRNC. The day they repealed the thirteen articles, and removed by force the Turkish Cypriots from the government, they smashed the constitution. Since then nothing has been done to change this. They could have drawn up a new constitution, leaving out the Turkish Cypriots, and presented it to the world. They knew this would be unacceptable so the illegal state of the Republic of Cyprus remains.
Any reasonable international layer knows that this is the case, yet Turkey is supposed to recognise this illegal state and open up her ports. Until this unfair situation is dealt with honestly, and the Turkish Cypriots treated with the respect they deserve, how can anyone expect a true and viable solution from either side.

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Good questions Troodo.
Why really, why?

Well, two things can be true in such a case. "Either the sea is wrong, or we are just sailing the wrong way!" Either the international community, the entire world, has gone crazy, blind and biased; or the above story (scenario) is not so true and real!
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Postby DT. » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:34 am

Troodo wrote:I am not trying to be controversial here, I just want to understand. Why do the members of the international community accept the Republic of Cyprus as the legitimate government of the whole of Cyprus when, by their own laws, it is as illegal as the TRNC. The day they repealed the thirteen articles, and removed by force the Turkish Cypriots from the government, they smashed the constitution. Since then nothing has been done to change this. They could have drawn up a new constitution, leaving out the Turkish Cypriots, and presented it to the world. They knew this would be unacceptable so the illegal state of the Republic of Cyprus remains.
Any reasonable international layer knows that this is the case, yet Turkey is supposed to recognise this illegal state and open up her ports. Until this unfair situation is dealt with honestly, and the Turkish Cypriots treated with the respect they deserve, how can anyone expect a true and viable solution from either side.

Troodo.
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:48 am

so if u join the site and post in english he will still answer wont he?
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Postby Troodo » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:33 am

I do not believe Kifeas that the entire world has gone crazy, many people are asking the same question, including how an illegal state was allowed to join the EU while breaking their own laws of membership. You explain to me how any of it was allowed? It would appear that the playing field is defiantly tilted, yet it does not alter the facts in international or EU law.
I am not arguing here who is right or wrong, but how can there ever be a solution when the very foundation of the problem is rotten.
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Postby Magnus » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:57 pm

What a bunch of crap. I asked Talat which English king was executed in 1649 and he didn't know. I should have asked the audience.
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Postby Troodo » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:42 pm

However you wish to look at it– the TC’s rebelled or were forced out at gun point – with the tearing up of the thirteen articles the GC’s stole Cyprus. The constitution signed in 1960 was for a partnership, legally binding in international law. You can not change a legal agreement without the co-signatories authorisation. Conversely if you can arrange for the co-signatories to disappear, then you are free to draw up another agreement and set it before the international community for approval. This was not done, yet still the GC’s claim to be the government of the whole of Cyprus.
Do not give me the argument that the thirteen articles were only suspended - for forty years? – that one won’t wash in any honest court of law.
What I am saying is that until this anomaly is put right - with or without the TC’s, they can go their on way – then the government of the south has no legal claim over any part of Cyrus and are in fact illegal squatters. A criminal offence I do believe.

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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:57 pm

Magnus wrote:What a bunch of crap. I asked Talat which English king was executed in 1649 and he didn't know. I should have asked the audience.

:? Well let's hope your next question to him won't be about black holes...
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