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[kentish]

birkibrisli you need to get real.pirates calls turkey the puppeteer and tc the puppet.he wants to treat you as an ethnic minority and to run your future and you are brainwashed into being annoyed with my posting.

i make a few words and all the usual gc bile is awash culminating in utter bile from kifeas,it looks to me kifeas as the rubbish you invent about turkish treatment of kurds is your model of how you would like to treat tc in cyprus.

am i right or am i right

4 times larger etc etc who cares, is the tc better off financially and does he have more freedom of movement now or pre 1974

i dont like bullies and bullies and gc are the same thing

[Get Real!]

piratis you are doing what is called pissing against the wind.there is mutual distrust from both sides.your stupid rhetoric fools one.as a tc can i trust a gc to do the right thing in cyprus,can i f##k, 75/25 says it all.
up yours and goodbye

Welcome to the forum Kentish, good post, hit the problem on the head.

As if anyone can ever trust Turkish Cypriots who only have their mothers left to sell...

Plenty more GC land to go GR

No worries… you can always setup a mini Kerhane somewhere in the back yard!

Turkish Cypriot business astuteness is legendary…

[Viewpoint]

piratis you are doing what is called pissing against the wind.there is mutual distrust from both sides.your stupid rhetoric fools one.as a tc can i trust a gc to do the right thing in cyprus,can i f##k, 75/25 says it all.
up yours and goodbye

I am afraid it is you that is pissing in the wind, while in fact the wind is blowing towards your face! You have no problem as a Turk forcing the Kurdish citizens of your "motherland" trusting your mainland Turkish "brothers" to do the right thing, when in fact you do not even allow them to speak their own language, keep them impoverished in the SE parts of Turkey and do torture or kill them by the thousands; however, you do have a "problem" trusting the GCs to do the right thing, when in fact the run by GCs free part of Cyprus has a per capita income 4 times larger, and a far higher scoring in all international ratings relating to a political and democratic culture and human rights respect for its people, than your corrupted "motherland" does!

"kentish," why don’t you piss off!

Have you been to that region of Turkey? have you listened to Kurdidh radio and television broadcasts? Obviously not. But our problem is ours not the Kurdish problem which is theirs.

[Viewpoint]

piratis you are doing what is called pissing against the wind.there is mutual distrust from both sides.your stupid rhetoric fools one.as a tc can i trust a gc to do the right thing in cyprus,can i f##k, 75/25 says it all.
up yours and goodbye

Welcome to the forum Kentish, good post, hit the problem on the head.

As if anyone can ever trust Turkish Cypriots who only have their mothers left to sell...

Plenty more GC land to go GR

No worries… you can always setup a mini Kerhane somewhere in the back yard!

Turkish Cypriot business astuteness is legendary…

going going gone......

[Get Real!]

piratis you are doing what is called pissing against the wind.there is mutual distrust from both sides.your stupid rhetoric fools one.as a tc can i trust a gc to do the right thing in cyprus,can i f##k, 75/25 says it all.
up yours and goodbye

Welcome to the forum Kentish, good post, hit the problem on the head.

As if anyone can ever trust Turkish Cypriots who only have their mothers left to sell...

Plenty more GC land to go GR

No worries… you can always setup a mini Kerhane somewhere in the back yard!

Turkish Cypriot business astuteness is legendary…

going going gone......

Nooooooooooooo! For the love of God not your mommy!!!

[Piratis]

I am also talking about solutions Bir, and not mere agreements that will only make our problem worst.

As I said a real solution can not be far from what I described above. There really isn't any alternative to human rights and democracy. The details of the system can be negotiated, but the principles of a true solution can not.

Instead of waisting our time looking for something that does not exist and perpetuate our problem with new problematic agreements, we should simply concentrate our efforts in achieving a real solution.

If and when a solution is achieved is something that only time will show, but the earlier we start working for a solution the better.

Fine,Piratis...The real solution according to you and me is a unitary state based on democratic principles and human rights...But you and I cannot really affect an agreement between the two communities...Those who can will have nothing less than a BBF based on political equality of the GCs and TCs...How are we going to get from here to our ideal "real" solution???

I disagree with you Bir. You and I can affect the agreement by refusing to accept some agreement that will not solve the Cyprus problem but make it worst and perpetuate it.

The first step in solving a problem is to recognize that there is a problem and identify what the problem exactly is.

Take the Kurds for example. Kurdistan is not a recognized entity, and for the international community there is no such problem as the "Turkish occupation of Kurdistan", and the Kurds have no international voice to fight for their rights.

In that respect Cyprus is far ahead of the Kurds in its struggle for freedom. The problem of illegal Turkish occupation of the north part of Cyprus is internationally recognized, and Cyprus has the international voice, and some small power within EU, to fight for justice.

If we accept some new agreement that will try to close (not solve) the Cyprus problem, then while our problem will remain the same, or even get worst, it will not be recognized as a problem by anybody anymore. Furthermore, by giving to Turkey the 50% power share of Cyprus with veto rights, it will mean that Cypriots will lose their international voice and will not be able to even complain.

I don't have the magic formula that can immediately solve the Cyprus problem under the current balance of power, but I know what we should and shouldn't do in order to avoid getting something worst and avoid making steps backwards in our struggle for freedom.

[Kifeas]

birkibrisli you need to get real.pirates calls turkey the puppeteer and tc the puppet.he wants to treat you as an ethnic minority and to run your future and you are brainwashed into being annoyed with my posting.

i make a few words and all the usual gc bile is awash culminating in utter bile from kifeas,it looks to me kifeas as the rubbish you invent about turkish treatment of kurds is your model of how you would like to treat tc in cyprus.

am i right or am i right

4 times larger etc etc who cares, is the tc better off financially and does he have more freedom of movement now or pre 1974

i dont like bullies and bullies and gc are the same thing

No darling, it is the model you have in mind from your own experience of treating others, that you project in frond of you when judging the GCs! You simply "judge others from within!" And do not tell me about the Turkish treatment of Turks, for we all and the whole rest of the world know too well, what and how it is! In fact a video has only yesterday been posted in this forum showing how “nicely” all those Kurds were treated by your motherland's "glorious" security forces, for daring to celebrate a cultural event of their own tradition!

[kentish]

its your model,you brought it up

[Viewpoint]

piratis you are doing what is called pissing against the wind.there is mutual distrust from both sides.your stupid rhetoric fools one.as a tc can i trust a gc to do the right thing in cyprus,can i f##k, 75/25 says it all.
up yours and goodbye

Welcome to the forum Kentish, good post, hit the problem on the head.

As if anyone can ever trust Turkish Cypriots who only have their mothers left to sell...

Plenty more GC land to go GR

No worries… you can always setup a mini Kerhane somewhere in the back yard!

Turkish Cypriot business astuteness is legendary…

going going gone......

Nooooooooooooo! For the love of God not your mommy!!!

No it was your mommy the Turkish Soldiers had some fun with before she ran off and now we have sold her land. Does your mommy still dream of those big Turkish soliders? 2 can play at that game GR.

[unitedwestand]

piratis you are doing what is called pissing against the wind.there is mutual distrust from both sides.your stupid rhetoric fools one.as a tc can i trust a gc to do the right thing in cyprus,can i f##k, 75/25 says it all.
up yours and goodbye

Welcome to the forum Kentish, good post, hit the problem on the head.

As if anyone can ever trust Turkish Cypriots who only have their mothers left to sell...

Plenty more GC land to go GR

No worries… you can always setup a mini Kerhane somewhere in the back yard!

Turkish Cypriot business astuteness is legendary…

going going gone......

Nooooooooooooo! For the love of God not your mommy!!!

Its really childish to bring mothers into these discussions. It is only going to end up in insults being exchanged for no good reason. Grow up GR.