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Can anyone here give me an official explanantion why a Turkish Cypriot, who owns a RoC passport and lives in the south...can not vote?????????????

[garbitsch]

That is because according to the RoC constitution, the Greeks elect the Greek candidates and Turks elect the Turkish Candidates. Since there are no Turkish candidates, the T.Cs are not allowed to vote for the Greek candidates. This is my assumption, could either be true or wrong...

[metecyp]

Garbitsch, you are right but this is not going to change anything because now we'll be accused of not providing candidates for TCs living in the south to vote for...just watch.

[brother]

If you are a tc who lives in the ROC as a citizen and pays tax then it is your god given right to be able to vote etc. but the ROC as such is chewing your human rights and spitting it out with the bollocks of no tc to vote for as they are now part of the E.U and as such have all the rights of every other citizen but as we all know human rights for tassos and co. only exist if they benefit the gc population not the tc that are below them.

GOD I AM PEEVED TODAY AT THE CARETAKER GOVERMENT OF ROC AND ITS DOUBLE STANDARDS.

[magikthrill]

If you are a tc who lives in the ROC as a citizen and pays tax then it is your god given right to be able to vote etc. but the ROC as such is chewing your human rights and spitting it out with the bollocks of no tc to vote for as they are now part of the E.U and as such have all the rights of every other citizen but as we all know human rights for tassos and co. only exist if they benefit the gc population not the tc that are below them.

GOD I AM PEEVED TODAY AT THE CARETAKER GOVERMENT OF ROC AND ITS DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Personally, I think the problem lies in the fact that the RoC constitution deals with segregation. WHy is it that only a GC can vote for GCs and a TC only for TCs?

And how does this work exactly? Do they look at your name? Or do they ask you to speak?

And what happens with other citizens? Are they automatically ocnsidered GCs?

[turkcyp]

Personally, I think the problem lies in the fact that the RoC constitution deals with segregation. WHy is it that only a GC can vote for GCs and a TC only for TCs?

And how does this work exactly? Do they look at your name? Or do they ask you to speak?

And what happens with other citizens? Are they automatically ocnsidered GCs?

Dear magik,

It seems that you are missing the spirit of 1960 constitution. In its essence, 1960 constitution was a bicommunal federation. Not bizonal but bicomunal federation. GCs were choosing president, 70% of MPs, and they have their own communal assembly that regulate their internal affairs, like educational, municipalities and etc. (think of it as the state’s parliament without actually having a state), and on the other hand TCs were choosing vice-president, 30% of MPs, and their own communal chamber.

There were all the rules designed to determine who is a GC and who is a TC. Article 2 of the constitution defines who constitutes GC and TC community.

After 1963 GCs, by using force kicked the TCs out of the RoC government (Here I am not denying that fact that some portions of TC society was pushing for Taksim and therefore they actually encouraged and in some cases forced some TCs not to participate to RoC. But this portion of TC society would have never found support from mainstream TCs if GCs never resorted armed tactics, and force them into enclaves starting in 21 Dec 1963.). And since 1963 no decision taken by the RoC involves TCs.

Other citizens choose to be part of one of each communities. Maronites, choose the part of GC society. But apart from being this they also have some other rights to preserve their identity.

[insan]

It is a fact that after the brakeout of inter-communal violence Makarios rejected to negotiate with TC leadership until 1967. He said "There's nothing to negotiate with TC leadership until they accept the minority status." Read Galo Plaza's 1965 report for details. It is obvious that TCs were kicked out of RoC; pressurized, oppressed and terrorized to accept minority status. The properties and belongings of 30.000 TC refugees looted by some groups of GCs. Terrorist GC regime imposed embargos on TC community for 3 years; between 1964-67.

[Piratis]

It is up to TCs if they want to vote or not. Unfortunately the TCs pretend that they have a separate state ("TRNC") and that they are not part of RoC (or they don't even recognize RoC!).

If you ask me all people should be allowed to vote as equals without racial discrimination. However remember that this racial discrimination is something that was forced on us and it is supported by the TCs.

So TCs have to decide: Do you want racial discrimination or not?? You can not on one hand demand this racial discrimination (that we definitely do not want), and then accuse us about it!!!!!!!!!

[turkcyp]

It is up to TCs if they want to vote or not. Unfortunately the TCs pretend that they have a separate state ("TRNC") and that they are not part of RoC (or they don't even recognize RoC!).

If you ask me all people should be allowed to vote as equals without racial discrimination. However remember that this racial discrimination is something that was forced on us and it is supported by the TCs.

So TCs have to decide: Do you want racial discrimination or not?? You can not on one hand demand this racial discrimination (that we definitely do not want), and then accuse us about it!!!!!!!!!

IF our GC compatriots who are currently running the RoC alone shows us a way of exercising our constitutional rights in RoC without breaking the constitution, we are willing to listen and agree.

[Piratis]

Turcyp, as I wrote in another thread the answer is simple: End the occupation. You can't expect to control both the 36% of Cyprus just by yourselves and then share the rest of Cyprus with us, right?

OR alternatively, join us and declare clearly that you are under occupation, that you want to return to RoC and that you don't recognize "TRNC". If you do this, then again you should have your rights even if our country is under occupation by a foreign power.

But you can not on one hand support the illegal "TRNC" and the occupation, and demand your share in RoC at the same time, right?

If I support something illegal, then I will be put behind bars and I will have almost no rights. Thats how it works. Full rights are for those that respect the laws.