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[insan]

PS. Can the TC friends inform us what happens now in the northern part regarding civilian marriages? Insan any information regarding the situation in Turkey regarding this?

Any TC and any Turkish can freely get marry to anyone, anywhere in the world he/she wishes as long as he/she proves that he/she is single.

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Do you walk around with your eyes closed, "on the whole" your names have been changed to good old English names, your English mum cant speak Greek or Turkish cant cook Cypriot food and hates our music. The children born to these marriages are more English than Cypriot, a high percentage of mixed marriages end in divorce, take a good look next time you walk around Green Lanes. Some 3rd generation Cypriots conceal their Cypriotness, so how the hell can you say they embrace their origins.

How have out names been changed to English ones!? What are you talking about?...and Green Lanes is THE LAST place where people would conceal there ethnicity. VP, you live on a different planet and confuse reality with your own ideals. Can you give me a divorce rate percentage of Cypriots and non-Cypriots...or is this another VP propaganda tactic, from the Denktash manual of 'How To Be A Cunt'. I myself know English woman married to a GC that speak very good old fashioned village Greek. If anything, because the English seem to have less culture to them, they seem to embrace the culture of the person they have married even more.

Also, you were talking about the Cypriots in the UK and the bad blood between THEM, not the Cypriots in Cyprus. Well, you have got this wrong again, there is no bad blood between the GC and TC...the two still socialise together and share the same classrooms together from the ages of 3-18 years of age. I should know, I live in an area of London which has the highest population of Cypriots. Again, are there any GC or TC in London who can add to this? Because this VP is really creating a false state of affairs and its pricks like him who stir up hate which leads to violance.

Because I call you a PRICK, which you ARE...you PRICK....it does not mean im uncultured....and I dont think you understand what being cultured means. Anyhow, cultured or uncultured, as long as I dont think like you, then its fine.
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Why bother with someone like you, you have the IQ of a greasy peanut and the manners of a slob.

You need to read many books and do a lot of research.

To save the rest of the forum readers from your verbal diarrhea in future I will not respond to your posts theres absoulutly no point.

[metecyp]

Because I call you a PRICK, which you ARE...you PRICK....it does not mean im uncultured....and I dont think you understand what being cultured means. Anyhow, cultured or uncultured, as long as I dont think like you, then its fine.

There's no excuse in calling someone such names. You have no right to turn this forum into a coffee-shop. If you can't express yourself properly, then don't express yourself at all and save us the time and energy to read your posts.

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Mete...dont act all surprised because somone type the word 'prick'.

VP, what books do you recommend that will tell me Cypriot divorce rates, the dieing of 'Cypriotness' in London and the relationships between GC and TC in London?

[metecyp]

Mete...dont act all surprised because somone type the word 'prick'.

It's not just typing the word "prick". We come here to discuss and learn from others and we don't care about the personality of the members or if they're cultured or not. All we care is their ideas and you can reply to ideas with your ideas and not with personal attacks. Got my point?

[erolz]

Just to throw in my own history / background.

Father TC mother English. They met in Cyprus in 50's (my mother worked for the british armies cattering core). They married and went to England in 58.

My mother spoke some Turkish but English was laways the language of communication between them, in Cyprus and in England. My father had been tought English (and been tought in english) from a very early age, so this is natural.

I was born in the UK in 66. I spoke only english as this was the language of the country I was born in and it was the language used in the house between my mother and father. Also in true male Cypriot fashion it was my mother that did the bulk of 'raising' the children not my father.

I was born in England raised in England and lived my entire life uptill about 2.5 years ago in England. I certainly was and am more English than Cypriot. However this does not mean I reject my Cypriotness, as far as I am concerned. I had many connetions to my Cypriot culture even in England and I never tried to deny it - not to 'fit in' or for any other reason. Now I have come to live as a Citizen in Cyprus. No doubt over time my Cypriotness will increase vs my Britishness, though I wil always retain elements of both and not deny either.

My parents did divorce eventually but I do not believe this was because of cutural pressures of a mixed marriage. If anything it was the result of economic pressure and bizzarely a result of economic sucess not failure. Whilst they were struggling to build a succsessful business tension between them was low. Once they realised that we were actually very wealthy - through their sheer hard work, they statred to realise how different thier desires for the future were and this new status of 'rich' eventualy led to divorce.

As a Cypriot I am stronger not weaker because of my Britishness and as a Brition I am stronger not weaker because of my Cypriotness. That's how I see it and feel anyway.

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erolz, thanks for sharing your personal situation with us. It only confirms that children from a mixed marriage do have to go through levels of being English or Cypriot as in your case, the degree is different in every situation. The general trend for families where either parent is Cypriot and residing in the UK is for the English element to dominate, this is natural, I have a very good example of this in my family, now divorced due to clash of cultures and traditions, their children are more English than Cypriot, they speak no Turkish, they hate our food and our customs, they reject anything to do with Cypriotism and want to forget that side of the family tree, their mother insisted on English names, she never attempted to learn Turkish and never wanted to learn how to cook Turkish food. Im giving you this example to bring home the degree to which children born to mixed marriages are exposed to an identity crisis, most living in the UK opt for the English identity.
Lets take this one step further, the child marries an English person what happens to Cypriotism then???? vanishes???
Thats why deep down our emotions long for our children to marry from their own people but off course love has no bounds and those that venture out do so at their own peril

[magikthrill]

This could be a trick question, to be used to try and degrade, belittle or make fun of me but Ill still answer. I built my own home on Turkish titile deeds in Nicosia.

Why do you ask?

I asked cause IM trying to understand your "viewpoint". I know it can be hard to leave the place you call home. My family had to go through it 30 years ago so I was just wondering.

I still however do not understand. What are these Turkish titlte deeds? I mean seeing as Cyprus and Turkey are two different countries how does this work?

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magikthrill I apologise my comment was misleading when i refer to Turkish Title deeds (I just translated from Turkish to English) I mean land that belonged to Turkish Cypriots pre 1974, so undisputed land. Hope thats clearer.