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[magikthrill]

Turkish Cypriot Marries Greek Cypriot they have a child, what is it??? TurkGek Cypriot or Grek-Turk Cypriot, one confused child, forget it lets all stick to our own, if it means being a racist in this issue, then so be it.

Out of all the questions posed in this forum this is the most simple to answer!

If a child is of TC and GC origin he is not confused. He is simply Cypriot!!!!

[magikthrill]

have to be honest if it were any nationality outside TCs i would be very disappointed.

This statement of yours is proof that your unwilingness to reach a united Cyprus is based on racist foundations.

There is no TC nationality or GC nationality. Although you have a pseudo-TC nationality this is not the case with GCs. They have CYpriot nationality. Their birth certificates and their passports have both Greek and Turksih on it.

GCs and TCs are separated by ethnicity and not nationality my friend.

I dont know what you are talking about, it was law gc couldnt marry tc until I think last year.

Yes this was clearly a racist law written by people with viewpoints such as those of Viewpoint.

[erolz]

Yes this was clearly a racist law written by people with viewpoints such as those of Viewpoint.

and as I understand it a law that was only repealed as a requirment for EU entry - not done proactivley by GC under their own volition based on it's racist nature ?

[magikthrill]

and as I understand it a law that was only repealed as a requirment for EU entry - not done proactivley by GC under their own volition based on it's racist nature ?

Thats what I heard as well. Not sure what is up with that. I mean even southern states in the US abolished bans on interracila marriages for over 5 years now!

[MicAtCyp]

Turkish Cypriot Marries Greek Cypriot they have a child, what is it??? TurkGek Cypriot or Grek-Turk Cypriot, one confused child, forget it lets all stick to our own, if it means being a racist in this issue, then so be it.

How about a clever child that can speak 2 languages and understand 2 cultures? How about a child whith no prejudices and confussed ideas like yours?How about a child who by itself will bring 15-20 family members from both sides together? How about a child with one crystal clear label: Cypriot!

Add to this the bad blood between GCs and TCs what do you get a confused and potentially mentally effected confused and placed in limbo with regards to belonging to one or the other parents origin.

Did you graduate high school VP? I mean did you ever get basic biology lessons concerning mixing of genes?
As for you second remark do you mind explaining what exactly you mean?

[Main_Source]

and in many English/Turkish children living in the UK, the Turkish Cypriot identity is rejected for that of the English one due to environment and peer pressure. Add to this the bad blood between GCs and TCs what do you get a confused and potentially mentally effected confused and placed in limbo with regards to belonging to one or the other parents origin.

This guy talks the biggest load of shit I have ever heard lol. The TC I know all make a point saying they are TC first...the same as many GC do. None of us really see ourselves as English, especially living in a multicutural society as London...there is nothing very English about it. Even more so in N London, where its very Cypriot...I dont know that many who rebel against there 'Cypriotness'.

and as for the bad blood between GC/TC...I think VP is trying to create this false sense of animosity, to promote his ideaologies of partition. I want any GC/TC who lives in the UK to tell me of badblood on the lines of ethnicity (and not personal conflict) between GC and TC.

Viewpoint, Im not one of these people who come here and pretend to respect every point of view in this forum, as I dont respect yours at all and tell you once gain your a prick.[/quote]

[Viewpoint]

Main_Source

None of us really see ourselves as English, especially living in a multicutural society as London...there is nothing very English about it. Even more so in N London, where its very Cypriot...I dont know that many who rebel against there 'Cypriotness'.

Do you walk around with your eyes closed, "on the whole" your names have been changed to good old English names, your English mum cant speak Greek or Turkish cant cook Cypriot food and hates our music. The children born to these marriages are more English than Cypriot, a high percentage of mixed marriages end in divorce, take a good look next time you walk around Green Lanes. Some 3rd generation Cypriots conceal their Cypriotness, so how the hell can you say they embrace their origins.

and as for the bad blood between GC/TC...I think VP is trying to create this false sense of animosity, to promote his ideaologies of partition. I want any GC/TC who lives in the UK to tell me of badblood on the lines of ethnicity (and not personal conflict) between GC and TC.

Bad Blood = Pre 1960, 1963-1974 ho or didnt anything happen? surely we all lived together in great harmony, wake up and read a few history books.

Viewpoint, Im not one of these people who come here and pretend to respect every point of view in this forum, as I dont respect yours at all and tell you once gain your a prick

Main_Source I dont respect your views either to me you are ignorant and uncultured, name calling is easy just expect to get it thrown back at you if you persist with using abuse.

[magikthrill]

Viewpoint, a random question.

Do you legally own the property you reside on in Cyprus or did you happen to acquire it after its original inhabitans were forcefully removed?

just asking cause im trying to understand your approach to the situation a little better.

[Viewpoint]

magikthrill

Do you legally own the property you reside on in Cyprus or did you happen to acquire it after its original inhabitans were forcefully removed?

This could be a trick question, to be used to try and degrade, belittle or make fun of me but Ill still answer. I built my own home on Turkish titile deeds in Nicosia.

Why do you ask?

[MicAtCyp]

That law (in RoC) was prohibiting the marriage between Christians and Muslims, I think. It is abolished now.

Correction: There was NO LAW prohibiting marriage between Christians and Muslims.In fact there were many married Mouslims and Christians in RoC who got married abroad via civil marriage. I personally know of a doctor married like that.

The problem was there was no law ALLOWING civil marriages in Cyprus although civil marriages done abroad were accepted. So all people had to either do a relegious marriage or go abroad to get married.

The problem was not really the introduction of the civil marriage, but the taking out of the hands of the church the right to issue divorces. And unfortunately the church never accepted to give her right away, and for a long period people where forced to get 2 divorces one from the church and one from the state! I think up until today this is the situation...

By the way the same thing happens with the Jews. We have more than 1000 Israelis coming to Cyprus and doing civil marriages because their relegion in Israel does not allow them. However when they go back to Israel their "Cyprus" civil marriage is considered perfectly legal and accepted by the Israeli State!!!!!

PS. Can the TC friends inform us what happens now in the northern part regarding civilian marriages? Insan any information regarding the situation in Turkey regarding this?