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TURKISH CYPRIOTS NOT ALLOWED TO VOTE IN RoC

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Postby brother » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:06 pm

My family already is inter married with GC but i pasted that article for a reason which was this bit:

Having felt that human rights in some areas in Cyprus needed to be improved, such as the right to vote for Turkish Cypriots living in the south, that is, the area under the control of the government of Cyprus, I visited all the party leaders and asked them to remedy the anomaly, provisionally until the political problem was solved. I mean the anomaly created by the separatist Constitutional provisions and the de facto partition of the island. I explained that the right to vote was one of the fundamental rights and that hundreds of Turkish Cypriots living in the south could not elect or be elected.



And that was for my friend main-source who wanted to know if is true, then this part is what have tc done about it:

Every leader told me that I was right and that the House of Representatives should be asked to do something about it. Unfortunately, nothing was done about it until recently, when a Turkish Cypriot living in the south, Mr Ibrahim Aziz, took the case to the European Court of Human Rights and won. Now I understand that the government has tried, or is trying, to remedy the situation so that the Turkish Cypriots living in the south can use their vote in the future. Is this how the matter should have been settled? I wonder!


So even though the case was won but still not implemented, so why are the ROC goverment not complying with the human rights court they defend so staunchly.
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Postby brother » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:08 pm

brother wrote:My family already is inter married with GC but i pasted that article for a reason which was this bit:

Having felt that human rights in some areas in Cyprus needed to be improved, such as the right to vote for Turkish Cypriots living in the south, that is, the area under the control of the government of Cyprus, I visited all the party leaders and asked them to remedy the anomaly, provisionally until the political problem was solved. I mean the anomaly created by the separatist Constitutional provisions and the de facto partition of the island. I explained that the right to vote was one of the fundamental rights and that hundreds of Turkish Cypriots living in the south could not elect or be elected.




And that was for my friend main-source who wanted to know if is true, then this part is what have tc done about it:

Every leader told me that I was right and that the House of Representatives should be asked to do something about it. Unfortunately, nothing was done about it until recently, when a Turkish Cypriot living in the south, Mr Ibrahim Aziz, took the case to the European Court of Human Rights and won. Now I understand that the government has tried, or is trying, to remedy the situation so that the Turkish Cypriots living in the south can use their vote in the future. Is this how the matter should have been settled? I wonder!


So even though the case was won but still not implemented, so why are the ROC goverment not complying with the human rights court they defend so staunchly.
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Postby brother » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:09 pm

My family already is inter married with GC but i pasted that article for a reason which was this bit:

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Having felt that human rights in some areas in Cyprus needed to be improved, such as the right to vote for Turkish Cypriots living in the south, that is, the area under the control of the government of Cyprus, I visited all the party leaders and asked them to remedy the anomaly, provisionally until the political problem was solved. I mean the anomaly created by the separatist Constitutional provisions and the de facto partition of the island. I explained that the right to vote was one of the fundamental rights and that hundreds of Turkish Cypriots living in the south could not elect or be elected.




And that was for my friend main-source who wanted to know if is true, then this part is what have tc done about it:

Every leader told me that I was right and that the House of Representatives should be asked to do something about it. Unfortunately, nothing was done about it until recently, when a Turkish Cypriot living in the south, Mr Ibrahim Aziz, took the case to the European Court of Human Rights and won. Now I understand that the government has tried, or is trying, to remedy the situation so that the Turkish Cypriots living in the south can use their vote in the future. Is this how the matter should have been settled? I wonder!


So even though the case was won but still not implemented, so why are the ROC goverment not complying with the human rights court they defend so staunchly.[/quote]
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:07 pm

I agree with Talat, he is brave and courgeous enough to say what we all feel, no GC would be happy for their child to marry a TC and vice versa.
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Postby metecyp » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:46 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I agree with Talat, he is brave and courgeous enough to say what we all feel, no GC would be happy for their child to marry a TC and vice versa.

Ok, I agree that Talat voiced the opinion of the majority of TCs and I'm sure it's the same for the majority of GCs. BUT this doesn't change the fact that this mentality on both sides is wrong due to:

1- It's wrong to dictate your child what to do. You can have an opinion but it's your child's life and you have to respect his/her decision.

2- If we're all humans, what's the problem with a TC marrying a GC? It's not right to exclude a certain group based on ethnicity. This is prejudist if not racist.

3- This is the guy who is supposedly working for unification. Why does he want to unify Cyprus if he's not ready to live with GCs? He wants his daughter not to marry a GC, meaning he wants to keep himself distanced from GCs, so why bother with unification if you're that scared of GCs?

4- As a politician, he's supposed to be ahead of people, show them the right direction. Him saying "I don't want my daughter to marry a GC" did not help for anything, however true it might be. If Bush said "I don't want my daughter marry with a black person", I'm sure there'll be riots all over the US against him and he would be labelled as racist.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:53 pm

metecyp in all fairness he did say he would respect his childs opinion but he perosnlly would not be happy, come on 90% of all GCs and TCs think that way lets not kid ourselves for the sake of not being who we really are and telling the truth.
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Postby metecyp » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:metecyp in all fairness he did say he would respect his childs opinion but he perosnlly would not be happy, come on 90% of all GCs and TCs think that way lets not kid ourselves for the sake of not being who we really are and telling the truth.

Ok, but once upon a time, 90% of whites in America thought blacks were inferior...they were telling the truth...the truth that they hate blacks...and now we know they were racists. Majority can be wrong too, that's all I want to point out. If you can logically defend why a TC and a GC should not be married, I'll accept your position but there's no logical explanation and the only illogical explanation can be "there's bad blood between us".
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:23 pm

metecyp wrote:Ok, but once upon a time, 90% of whites in America thought blacks were inferior...they were telling the truth...the truth that they hate blacks...and now we know they were racists. Majority can be wrong too, that's all I want to point out. If you can logically defend why a TC and a GC should not be married, I'll accept your position but there's no logical explanation and the only illogical explanation can be "there's bad blood between us".


The ironic thing is that the blood is pretty much the same.

So Im guessing if one day people realized that organized religions only take us backward and they learned to speak each others language then a solution might be easier to achieve.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:45 pm

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Ok, but once upon a time, 90% of whites in America thought blacks were inferior...they were telling the truth...the truth that they hate blacks...and now we know they were racists. Majority can be wrong too, that's all I want to point out. If you can logically defend why a TC and a GC should not be married, I'll accept your position but there's no logical explanation and the only illogical explanation can be "there's bad blood between us".


I understand your viewpoint but everything in life is not black and white no pun intended, its a combination of many factors psychological expession and prejudiced against a people that would stab you in the back at the first opportunity, you only have to read main_source, nick the geeek, micatcyp to realize what Im saying is right.
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I understand your viewpoint but everything in life is not black and white no pun intended, its a combination of many factors psychological expession and prejudiced against a people that would stab you in the back at the first opportunity, you only have to read main_source, nick the geeek, micatcyp to realize what Im saying is right.


so you say you make your judgement for a whole community from reading the posts of 2-3 people?

i guess thats how you prejudiced then.
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