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[GorillaGal]

enough with the "colored" or the "black" thing. it is not politically correct to say "colored."
Obama is black.
hillary is white.
end of story.

African American.
In the US some people, object to being called black, by a white.

no, african american is out, went out about 20 years ago. do you live in the USA? they are called blacks, and they are proud of it. and they should be.
my step mother is black.

He is the first African American to be the presumptive presidential nominee of any major American political party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Obama graduated from Harvard Law School where he was the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.

http://obama.senate.gov/about/

sorry, i didn't have time yet to read your links, but it is my understanding wikipedia is writtten and updated by anyone who wants to write. and he wasn't born in africa, so he is an american, that happens to be black.

[Oracle]

O, the government of Cyprus is not Turkey , the occupied part of Cyprus IS Turkey governed . The legal and recognised government of the then South Africa was not occupying South Africa but denying the majority the right of self rule with apartheid thrown in as a good measure.To compare events that took place in South Africa then with events in Cyprus right now is not quite correct you must admit.
Do not forget who gave Turkey the green light to invade and it was not the T/Cs but the fascists of Greece aided and abated by the G/C extremists . The military" coupists " of 1974 did not only consider the T/Cs as an obstacle to their journey towards the "sale" of Cyprus to Greece but also considered those G/Cs opposing them as traitors and a valid target.
Our present predicament was orchestrated from beginning to end by the shortsighted extremists , examples of which we see on this forum every day , who considered Cyprus their exclusive property regardless of other Cypriots views.
Bananiot is amongst the genuine Cypriots who want nothing more for Cyprus than a peaceful solution based on human rights and equality , based on respect for all Cypriots , he does not differentiate between the G/Cs T/Cs Maronites , Armenians or others .
He has never used foul language or derogatory graffiti on other forum members and in spite of his highly developed intellectual capabilities he remains modest and accommodating to those with lesser degrees of vocabulary competence. A true Cypriot !!
ps. No jokes on "lesser degrees...........

Unwilling as I am to be sucked into your illogical, unreasonable world which has been my misfortune to stumble upon at unwary moments between pages of posts ... ... I feel you deserve this one shot to prove to me that there are just enough neurons remaining viable in your vintage greying matter to adopt one idea of simple logic.

Please concentrate and focus on what I am saying.... I am not talking about fine details ... I am not talking about a carbon copy re-enactment of the South African conflict with our own.

I was discussing a way of dealing with and looking at our situation with something you volunteered... Mandela... as a familiar way for you to see that even great men (as he is NOW) were once viewed as terrorists that had to be suppressed & imprisoned because they had the audacity (as you attribute to GR!) to stand up against the enemy who uses force to continually repress their fellow natives and countrymen.

That is what Turkey is doing right now to us ... A fact hard to believe, only by you!

As I said, stay focused Miltiades... don't wander down memory lane and I lose you again ... stay with me and keep thinking, right now Turkey is using force to divide my country and keep my people from their homes .... The reason I know Turkey is using FORCE in this conflict, is because if any of my people tried to go to their own front door of their own home in their own land and turn the doorknob to let themselves into their family home (maybe of generations) ... they will be SHOT DEAD by a Turkish soldier ... do you understand? Is that FORCE enough for you?

That was the force your hero (and mine) Mandela, stood up against!

What are you doing, Miltiades?

Tell me; what are you doing to behave like your hero?

You are not even talking against your enemy's actions ... you are not even opposing your enemy with words ...

You are not only ACCEPTING what they have done, but you are fantastically making excuses why they were f**king entitled to invade us and teach us a frigging lesson for fraternising with Greece ...

[Eliko]

Good Morning miltiades, I trust all is well with you and your family ?.

Once more it seems, I am obliged to defend my previous comments in an effort to encourage you to 'Read and Digest' the implications and facts contained in them.

I do NOT hate America, I have never stated that I do, nor do I hate the American people.

The same would apply to Israel the UK and every other nation on the face of the earth.

I do NOT support Robert Mugabe, Osama bin Laden, nor the host of other entities you are so fond of associating me with and (were you able to interpret the contents my posts correctly) I think that fact is quite clear.

I did not advocate a 'WAR' against Turkey, I merely chose to support Get Real's stance (which I considered to be strong) in preference to YOURS (which I considered to be weak), in the poll which exposed the weakness of your stance.

I consider myself to be a FAIR man miltiades, I condemn the actions of those who oppress the weak and I admire the strength and courage of those who resist oppression and aggression.

That does NOT mean that I admire and support the actions of 'Suicide Bombers' and the aftermath of their actions, THEY who commit such dreadful acts in order to draw the attention of the world to their plight, consider that they have no alternative.

If they were as well equipped as the aggressors, the outcome would be different since THEY have justice on their side.

So you see miltiades, before you come out swinging and foaming at the mouth like some mad dog, I suggest you should take a little time in considering the 'Causes', 'Reasons' and 'Objectives' of what is taking place right HERE on our doorstep.

miltiades, realizing that you may have been busy at the time and knowing of your fondness for failing to respond to comments which fail to fall in line with your rigid views, I wonder why you did not 'Deal' (as you often put it) with this particular post.

Is it perhaps because (as on numerous occasions previously) I have mentioned the same points in defence of your inane assumptions ?, or is it an indication that, without being able to rely on them you would find yourself FORCED to concede that there may be a 'FLAW' in your own perceptions ?.

At the moment, in the light of that which is generally (Accepted World-Wide, Bush and Blair Lied, Millions Died) particularly in view of the fact that the UK Government (proven to be mendacious on many occasions) will no doubt be courting favour with OUR newly elected leader, are you actually prepared to accept that some good will emerge from their meetings?.

You are an man of advancing years miltiades, you have my respect for such but I do wish you were not quite so gullible.

I do really hope that a favourable solution is found, scepticism coupled with the sure (and proven) knowledge that the machinations of the politicians are probably at work right now, prevents me from eagerly awaiting the results of the aforementioned meetings.

Keep your flags furled miltiades, who knows which one will be fluttering in the breeze once the 'Masters of Chicanery' have had their 'Deal and Trick'.

[Eliko]

Oracle, Salutations !.

[CanDiaz]

enough with the "colored" or the "black" thing. it is not politically correct to say "colored."
Obama is black.
hillary is white.
end of story.

African American.
In the US some people, object to being called black, by a white.

no, african american is out, went out about 20 years ago. do you live in the USA? they are called blacks, and they are proud of it. and they should be.
my step mother is black.

He is the first African American to be the presumptive presidential nominee of any major American political party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Obama graduated from Harvard Law School where he was the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.

http://obama.senate.gov/about/

sorry, i didn't have time yet to read your links, but it is my understanding wikipedia is writtten and updated by anyone who wants to write. and he wasn't born in africa, so he is an american, that happens to be black.

African American.

[tessintrnc]

Oracle quote:because if any of my people tried to go to their own front door of their own home in their own land and turn the doorknob to let themselves into their family home (maybe of generations) ... they will be SHOT DEAD by a Turkish soldier ... do you understand? End Quote


Thats not true.

[GorillaGal]

enough with the "colored" or the "black" thing. it is not politically correct to say "colored."
Obama is black.
hillary is white.
end of story.

African American.
In the US some people, object to being called black, by a white.

no, african american is out, went out about 20 years ago. do you live in the USA? they are called blacks, and they are proud of it. and they should be.
my step mother is black.

He is the first African American to be the presumptive presidential nominee of any major American political party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Obama graduated from Harvard Law School where he was the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review.

http://obama.senate.gov/about/

sorry, i didn't have time yet to read your links, but it is my understanding wikipedia is writtten and updated by anyone who wants to write. and he wasn't born in africa, so he is an american, that happens to be black.

African American.

black.
where do you live? in the bush or in the USA? only old people and middle america would refer to them as african american. or foreingners to the USA.

[GorillaGal]

candiaz
you can come to ny and call them afro americans, peopel are just going to think you are ignorant. do you comprehend what you read? not all aficans are black. i have the rand mcnally world atlas, which sates that the majority of the population of the USA is white and black. not white and aftican american.
people that write for wikipedia are everyday people. there is alot fo false information in there.
call my step mom "african american" and she will certainly correct you. but then maybe you are black, or as you prefer to be called, "african american."?????

[miltiades]

Oracle, Salutations !.

I shall deal with both of your posts this evening since I'm at work during the day.
May I just say quickly to Oracle that she is "barking up the wrong tree and I shall elaborate later on today. Also I would like to ask Oracle , and I'm giving her some time to consider this , what does she think is the value of her contribution to a solution of the Cyprus problem right now TAKING INTO ACCOUNT that our government as well as its overseas' representatives are , and have been engaged in negotiations for a peaceful solution . What would she have to say if SHE was taking parts in the current negotiations either as Cypriot politician here in Cyprus or as Cypriot diplomat lets say in the UN. Would she adopt the stance that she supported as presented by GR , ie "ALL OPTIONS ARE NOW HISTORY AND ONLY WAR WILL LIBERATE THE OCCUPIED LANDS. "" Would she stand on the UN forum and voice those opinions that war IS THE ONLY OPTION. ?? I ASK THAT SHE TAKES HER TIME TO ANSWER .
May I request that she concentrates on the issue here and not "lecture " me about freedom and Mandela.

[Eliko]

Oracle quote:because if any of my people tried to go to their own front door of their own home in their own land and turn the doorknob to let themselves into their family home (maybe of generations) ... they will be SHOT DEAD by a Turkish soldier ... do you understand? End Quote


Thats not true.

tessintrnc, perhaps you are in a position to inform me of what would happen were I to approach the home of my own family (of past generations) with a view to taking up residence there.

If what Oracle has suggested is 'not true', I wonder what prevents us ALL from returning to our homelands.

As a Lady with childhood connections with the struggles in Eire (I assume we are both familiar with such ?) I am surprised that you should find it necessary to add your support to an obviously British backed invasion of our ancestral Island.

Perhaps you have some insight which I do not, I would be pleased to learn of it.

Best Wishes to you and your family.