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Postby tessintrnc » Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:26 am

God, in my opinion is colour-blind - Lets hope the voters will be too..................
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:02 am

tessintrnc wrote:God, in my opinion is colour-blind - Lets hope the voters will be too..................



We shall see hayatim. :lol:
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Postby CopperLine » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:08 am

Regardless of Obama, Clinton or McCain, the US political system does not allow for radical change, either internally or externally. The party system, the electoral system, the federal system, and the constitutional disposition all serve to limit substantial change and to slow the rate of change. That media attention has focused on Obama being black and Clinton a woman and that this is distinctive of this presidential campaign is telling of how narrow the US system is. After all it is hardly revolutionary to be (a) black or (b) a woman !!! Whereas what proportion of the US electorate are informed about what each candidate offers (let alone could actually deliver) on something that really matters - access to basic affordable health care, for example - to the vast majority of US citizens, black or white, men or women ?
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:09 am

denizaksulu wrote:
tessintrnc wrote:God, in my opinion is colour-blind - Lets hope the voters will be too..................



We shall see hayatim. :lol:



English press suggesting that Obama will snub Clinton as being representing the past. I dont believe it though.
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Postby Eliko » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:48 am

Feisty wrote:Miltiades
If Israel are not aggressors and terrorists in this conflict how do you account for some 4,300 Palestinion deaths during the last 7 years and yet only 1000 Israeli deaths?
A further question I'd like you to consider is how much more land the Israelis have occupied/stolen/driven people out of their homes than that which was given to them, rightly or wrongly, in the first place?



Feisty, I would not expect miltiades to answer your post since he has a firm commitment to support the acts of aggression perpetrated by the 'Terrorist State of Israel'.

He similarly strongly upholds the murderous and unlawful campaign in Iraq perpetrated by the USA and (our own) UK governments, now widely exposed to be based on a 'Pack of Lies'.

Please do not give either murderous onslaught the distinction of referring to them as 'WARS' since they do not qualify for such a grandiose title.

I take it upon myself to respond to your post to save you the embarrassment of being ignored and (should miltiades choose to respond) possibility of receiving a great deal of insult.

As to my own views, they are very well known regarding both murderous enterprises and I agree with the necessity of highlighting the figures thereto.

My only criticism of your figures is that you failed to mention that the deaths of approximately 1000 innocent young children are contained within them.

Since the Israeli's are equipped with 'Smart Weapons' as opposed to their adversaries poor 'Weapons Capability', one could justly comment on the apparent reluctance by the Israeli's to use them.

Perhaps they are comfortable with the odds at 4 to 1 in their favour.

As to 'Land grabbing' and expansionism which has and is taking place in the region, it is perfectly visible to the whole world, unfortunately the bullying tactics of the West ensure that the defenceless victims of aggression are powerless to stop it.

Interestingly, ANY actions to resist aggression by whatever means those oppressed may be forced to resort to (even to the extent that they are willing to sacrifice their own lives in vain attempts to inflict damage to their foe) are branded as 'Acts of Terrorism', a peculiarly strange word to inflict upon those known locally as 'Freedom Fighters' by those who are actually 'Terrorizing' both in Israel and Iraq. it's a funny old world. :roll: :wink:
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Postby Feisty » Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:59 am

Thank you Eliko.
Your posts are always informative, unbiased in my opinion and wise.
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Postby purdey » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:04 am

Informative yes, wise yes, unbiased umm verging slightly one way. We all have our views, and airing without being threatning is nice to see.
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Postby Eliko » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:05 am

Feisty wrote:Thank you Eliko.
Your posts are always informative, unbiased in my opinion and wise.



Not according to miltiades !!!. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Feisty » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:19 am

teehee.
What does he know? ;)
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Postby Eliko » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:50 am

purdey wrote:Informative yes, wise yes, unbiased umm verging slightly one way. We all have our views, and airing without being threatning is nice to see.



purdey, I do hope my posts NEVER come across as threatening since that would suggest that I direct my aggression towards individual people.

Other than the occasional face to face confrontations due to differences of opinion (an experience I am sure we have ALL had) I seem to be able to get on quite amiably with everyone I come into contact with, I assure you that my contacts are exceedingly multi-cultural.

I dislike threats, they are always of no consequence and are of detriment to the person issuing them since, if one does not follow them through, it leaves the recipient of them with the satisfaction of knowing he has been dealing with a 'Mouth' rather than a 'Man' and he that issued the threats must be uncomfortably aware of the fact.

Hence the old adage "Actions speak louder than words".

Which could open up the frontiers of an entirely new topic of conversation for an after dinner discussion. :lol: :wink:
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