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[bill cobbett]

Absolutely agree with those who post in support of people living their lives as they wish to and without the outdated, bigoted, intolerable condemnations of less enlightened places and times. In my exceptionally humble opinion people should be able to marry their dogs if it makes them happy, providing the dog can be shown to consent to the arrangement and it doesn't infringe the rights of others.

So yes the same human rights should be enjoyed by all individuals irrespective of where they lie on the homo-heterosexual continuum and lets, while we are at it, not be afraid to comes to terms with our own sexuality and face up to the fact that we are all a bit gay to some extent but I must also say that it does worry me sometimes when a small, vociferous minority organises together and demands equal political treatment as the much larger majority, not as individuals but as a collective of sorts.

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...bill c. ...watching his back

[Get Real!]

So yes the same human rights should be enjoyed by all individuals irrespective of where they lie on the homo-heterosexual continuum and lets, while we are at it, not be afraid to comes to terms with our own sexuality and face up to the fact that we are all a bit gay to some extent but I must also say that it does worry me sometimes when a small, vociferous minority organises together and demands equal political treatment as the much larger majority, not as individuals but as a collective of sorts.

I beg your pardon???

[Oracle]

That's very Freudian ... I don't know how much it still holds today. Can you elaborate bill c.? ....

Most of my female friends profess to fancying Angelina Jolie ... but I think they're just trying to be trendy and interesting ..

[Piratis]

Marriage is an outdated institution brought about merely to protect the mother and child ...

Anyone who wants to make a same-sex lifelong commitment with someone these days, where the interests of (particularly) the child (if any)are maintained by Law anyway, can just have a party to announce it to their friends.

Why do they need State or Religious recognition that they are going to be bonking with exclusivity ?...

Unless inheritance and financial considerations are paramount ....

Oracle, I mostly agree with you. However as you noted in the end there are some financial and other benefits for being married, even for childless couples. You can't give those benefits to some people and deny them to others.

I think society has to be VERY careful with failing to draw a red line for the sake of “equal rights” because we then risk opening Pandora’s box, where even the illegality of pedophilia will be challenged…

In my opinion this is a subject that should be debated as well.

For example today I was reading about a case of a 29 year old Syrian who had sex with a 15 year old, with her consent. The Syrian is considered a criminal now. I remember several years ago I was listening the radio and they announced the marriage of two enclaved people from Rizokarpaso. The man was 30 and his wife was 15. How could that marriage, a life long commitment, be acceptable and even blessed by the church, but the case of the Syrian and the 15 year old girl be considered a crime?

[bill cobbett]

What I'm saying is that sexual attraction isn't as simple as on and off, 1 and 0, right or wrong in other words a simple two state system but rather has a very wide range of values from straight through bisexuality to gay and it's down to each individual to choose where they lie on that line and they must be able to make that choice without societal pressures.

Naturally, someone like GR lies on the far left (straight side) of that continuum and that is where probably most people claim to feel they comfortably belong.

[Eliko]

Naturally, someone like GR lies on the far left (straight side) of that continuum and that is where probably most people claim to feel they comfortably belong.

Therefore, as a 'Democracy' may we have a little less clamour from the minority ?.

[Get Real!]

I think society has to be VERY careful with failing to draw a red line for the sake of “equal rights” because we then risk opening Pandora’s box, where even the illegality of pedophilia will be challenged…

In my opinion this is a subject that should be debated as well.

For example today I was reading about a case of a 29 year old Syrian who had sex with a 15 year old, with her consent. The Syrian is considered a criminal now. I remember several years ago I was listening the radio and they announced the marriage of two enclaved people from Rizokarpaso. The man was 30 and his wife was 15. How could that marriage, a life long commitment, be acceptable and even blessed by the church, but the case of the Syrian and the 15 year old girl be considered a crime?

I was actually thinking more of little children when I wrote that because I do appreciate the complexity of determining "child abuse" in cases where the “child” is close to the legal age of consent.

[bill cobbett]

That's very Freudian ... I don't know how much it still holds today. Can you elaborate bill c.? ....

Most of my female friends profess to fancying Angelina Jolie ... but I think they're just trying to be trendy and interesting ..

Your female friends have got good taste O. How friendly are they?

[Oracle]

What I'm saying is that sexual attraction isn't as simple as on and off, 1 and 0, right or wrong in other words a simple two state system but rather has a very wide range of values from straight through bisexuality to gay and it's down to each individual to choose where they lie on that line and they must be able to make that choice without societal pressures.

Naturally, someone like GR lies on the far left (straight side) of that continuum and that is where probably most people claim to feel they comfortably belong.

Aaahh ... is it a choice? Nature or nurture?

I think a gene has been isolated which is predominant in gay men ....

[bill cobbett]

Naturally, someone like GR lies on the far left (straight side) of that continuum and that is where probably most people claim to feel they comfortably belong.

Therefore, as a 'Democracy' may we have a little less clamour from the minority ?.

Not really I'm afraid Eliko. We have to be wary of what I have heard called the tyranny of the majority. Some people would add that a democracy is best assessed by the way it treats its minorities.