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[Get Real!]

Get Real,
Progressive insofar as it is the recognition of a basic human right (sexual orientation); progressive insofar as it is another rejection of religious bigotry; progressive insofar as it is a first recognition that these people can release their own happiness and need no longer live in denial or fear ...

Isn't sexual orientation and expression a basic human right, Get Real ?

Marriage is the legal union between a man and woman as HUSBAND and WIFE, and NOT as husband and husband, or as wife and wife!

"A man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one." Genesis.

The essence of marriage is NOT the social gathering of two people announcing their commitment but the RELIGIOUS UNION ONLY POSSIBLE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN, FORMING A SACRED ENTITY SYMBOLIC TO GOD!

There is nothing “progressive” about homosexual "marriages" for they are nothing but a rebellious stupidity just for the heck of “equal rights” and thus a serious ABUSE to human rights themselves!

[Bananiot]

Are you turning into a religion bigot too, GR? Halil is going to get very angry with you. Imagine a Greek man with a moustache marrying a Turkish man with an even bigger moustache. It would make the bones of ... Socrates ramble.

[Piratis]

There are two types of marriages, civil and religious.

In the case of civil marriages the state should not make any kind of discriminations.

In the case of religious weddings, which Get Real refers to, the church can set whatever standards it wants. If you don't like a religion then don't follow it. Follow another religion, make your own religion, or just be atheist. Nobody forces you to follow a certain religion, and nobody can force a religion to change in order to accommodate everybody thats wants to be part of it (on the contrary a region expects you to change and act according to its rules if you want to be part of it)

[Get Real!]

Are you turning into a religion bigot too, GR? Halil is going to get very angry with you. Imagine a Greek man with a moustache marrying a Turkish man with an even bigger moustache. It would make the bones of ... Socrates ramble.

I think society has to be VERY careful with failing to draw a red line for the sake of “equal rights” because we then risk opening Pandora’s box, where even the illegality of pedophilia will be challenged…

[RichardB]

There are two types of marriages, civil and religious.

In the case of civil marriages the state should not make any kind of discriminations.

In the case of religious weddings, which Get Real refers to, the church can set whatever standards it wants. If you don't like a religion then don't follow it. Follow another religion, make your own religion, or just be atheist. Nobody forces you to follow a certain religion, and nobody can force a religion to change in order to accommodate everybody thats wants to be part of it (on the contrary a region expects you to change and act according to its rules if you want to be part of it)

Piratis

I think you answered your question to me better then I could do

You have put the difference between religious and civil ceremonies very well.

i dont necessarily agree with it but what you say is true

[Get Real!]

...a re(li)gion expects you to change and act according to its rules if you want to be part of it)

That's a very good point. Let them form their own religion that'll accommodate their special needs...

[Eliko]

Marriage is the legal union between a man and woman as HUSBAND and WIFE, and NOT as husband and husband, or as wife and wife!

"A man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one." Genesis.

The essence of marriage is NOT the social gathering of two people announcing their commitment but the RELIGIOUS UNION ONLY POSSIBLE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN, FORMING A SACRED ENTITY SYMBOLIC TO GOD!

There is nothing “progressive” about homosexual "marriages" for they are nothing but a rebellious stupidity just for the heck of “equal rights” and thus a serious ABUSE to human rights themselves!

I think I am inclined to agree with you on this one Get Real, the question of homosexuals actually 'Marrying' is outside the bounds of common sense (in my opinion).

The performance of some kind of agreed union between the two parties should be sufficient enough recognition of their status and commitment to each other, using the term 'Marriage' in connection with such unions, only serves to make a mockery of the accepted interpretation of the word.

We have all come to accept homosexuality (largely without criticism nowadays) it has been decriminalised (subject to certain restrictions) it is now becoming far too 'In your face' for my own liking.

Good luck to them, I have no problem with the subject, just wish there was not so much clamouring for acceptance among those who may have different views on such issues.

[Oracle]

Marriage is an outdated institution brought about merely to protect the mother and child ...

Anyone who wants to make a same-sex lifelong commitment with someone these days, where the interests of (particularly) the child (if any)are maintained by Law anyway, can just have a party to announce it to their friends.

Why do they need State or Religious recognition that they are going to be bonking with exclusivity ?...

Unless inheritance and financial considerations are paramount ....

[kafenes]

[quote="Oracle"]Marriage is an outdated institution brought about merely to protect the mother and child ...

Anyone who wants to make a same-sex lifelong commitment with someone these days, where the interests of (particularly) the child (if any)are maintained by Law anyway, can just have a party to announce it to their friends.

Why do they need State or Religious recognition that they are going to be bonking with exclusivity ?...

Unless inheritance and financial considerations are paramount ....[/quote]

In which case, they can make a legal contract.

[Get Real!]

...using the term 'Marriage' in connection with such unions, only serves to make a mockery of the accepted interpretation of the word.

That's precisely the human rights ABUSE against religious heterosexual couples.