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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:29 pm

halil wrote:have a look at the link ..... lobby what do we accept from it to write .

lobby man looby Greek lobby :twisted:


Oh calm down Halilabad. You should take something for your blood pressure. :lol: :lol:

What about your source for the Tukish Land distribution in the previous page? Looks like a Turkish source to me. Also it does not make any sense as it just shows some numerical figures which could be the "trnc" citrus fruit output for all I know. :lol: :lol:

You must be losing your touch. :lol: :lol:

God I miss, Eric, and Zan because atleast they make sense. :lol: :lol:

Now, take some deep breaths Halilabad. Do not forget to take your medication. :lol: :lol:
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Postby halil » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:have a look at the link ..... lobby what do we accept from it to write .

lobby man looby Greek lobby :twisted:


Oh calm down Halilabad. You should take something for your blood pressure. :lol: :lol:


i am always calm Bafidigos , you are the one who can not tolerate .
British İn Northern Cyprus :lol: :lol: :lol:

more British more cry from you ................ Tears of the Alligator !
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Postby halil » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:38 pm

Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:have a look at the link ..... lobby what do we accept from it to write .

lobby man looby Greek lobby :twisted:


Oh calm down Halilabad. You should take something for your blood pressure. :lol: :lol:

What about your source for the Tukish Land distribution in the previous page? Looks like a Turkish source to me. Also it does not make any sense as it just shows some numerical figures which could be the "trnc" citrus fruit output for all I know. :lol: :lol:

You must be losing your touch. :lol: :lol:

God I miss, Eric, and Zan because atleast they make sense. :lol: :lol:

Now, take some deep breaths Halilabad. Do not forget to take your medication. :lol: :lol:


at least land of registration offices publishes them .... we can see how many donums are not in use and how many donums are fores land ....

publish yours and compare with them . if you search the forum i was publish from other sources as well . keep on for search .
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:39 pm

halil wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:have a look at the link ..... lobby what do we accept from it to write .

lobby man looby Greek lobby :twisted:


Oh calm down Halilabad. You should take something for your blood pressure. :lol: :lol:


i am always calm Bafidigos , you are the one who can not tolerate .
British İn Northern Cyprus :lol: :lol: :lol:

more British more cry from you ................ Tears of the Alligator !


To only get their sorry asses sued in the ECHR. :lol: :lol:

I think the British will be thinking twice before they move to the "trnc" especially for career opportunities as you seemed to have suggestion in a previous post. What career would that be? Working for Al JaBayarak? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby CanDiaz » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:40 pm

Paphitis wrote::lol: :lol:

I can assure you that GR and Oracle are 2 different people.

Every now and then, some people are a couple of stubbies shorth of a 6 pack. :lol:

I guess sometimes people get frustrated. You must understand that it is easy to let emotions take over, as just about every Cypriot family has suffered in this sorry saga called the Cyprus Problem.

Do you live in Australia by any chance?


I wish, been a few times tho. But im still dubious to this claim of dual iddiotship of GR & oracle. Finding any sense from these 2(or 1) is like shit from a rocking horse. Or should i say As common as a dog in Springvale. :wink:
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:41 pm

halil wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:have a look at the link ..... lobby what do we accept from it to write .

lobby man looby Greek lobby :twisted:


Oh calm down Halilabad. You should take something for your blood pressure. :lol: :lol:

What about your source for the Tukish Land distribution in the previous page? Looks like a Turkish source to me. Also it does not make any sense as it just shows some numerical figures which could be the "trnc" citrus fruit output for all I know. :lol: :lol:

You must be losing your touch. :lol: :lol:

God I miss, Eric, and Zan because atleast they make sense. :lol: :lol:

Now, take some deep breaths Halilabad. Do not forget to take your medication. :lol: :lol:


at least land of registration offices publishes them .... we can see how many donums are not in use and how many donums are fores land ....

publish yours and compare with them . if you search the forum i was publish from other sources as well . keep on for search .


NOT RECOGNISED BY ANYONE. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Therefore, I suggest you do the descent thing and remove this NON RECOGNISED SOURCE IMMEDIATELY. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:52 pm

CanDiaz wrote:
Paphitis wrote::lol: :lol:

I can assure you that GR and Oracle are 2 different people.

Every now and then, some people are a couple of stubbies shorth of a 6 pack. :lol:

I guess sometimes people get frustrated. You must understand that it is easy to let emotions take over, as just about every Cypriot family has suffered in this sorry saga called the Cyprus Problem.

Do you live in Australia by any chance?


I wish, been a few times tho. But im still dubious to this claim of dual iddiotship of GR & oracle. Finding any sense from these 2(or 1) is like shit from a rocking horse. Or should i say As common as a dog in Springvale. :wink:


:lol:

With all these Auzzie sayings, I am as happy as a pig in shit. :lol:

Did you have a gander at that link?

I am glad you like Australia. It is a great country, and I am fortunate to be living here. You never know, maybe you will move down under one day.
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Postby halil » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:54 pm

lets to start few series for you Bafidis .


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DURING THE 1963–64 PERIOD, it is estimated that around 25,000 Turkish Cypriots (one-fourth of the entire Turkish Cypriot community at that time) and 700 Greek Cypriots (including 500 Armenians) were displaced Of these, approximately 1,300 Turkish Cypriots had returned to their homes by 1970; the remainder were still displaced in the summer of 1974 when events led to the present de facto division of Cyprus. The resulting dislocation of people was massive. According to official Greek Cypriot sources, 142,000 Greek Cypriots (close to 30% of the entire Greek Cypriot community at that time) were displaced from the northern to the southern part of the island;and, according to official Turkish Cypriot sources, 45,000 Turkish Cypriots (close to 40% of the entire Turkish Cypriot community at that time) relocated from the south to the north.
When the Turkish military operation ended on 16 August 1974, many thousands of Greek Cypriots had already fled to the south, with only about 20,000 remaining in the north. By the summer of 1975, this number further diminished to around 10,000 (mainly in the Karpass area). The Greek Cypriot side claims that this was due to ‘the oppressing measures taken by the Turks in order to compel all the enclaved persons to leave’ the Turkish-controlled territories. Despite the Vienna III Agreement in August 1975 (more on this later), the number of Greek Cypriots in the north continued to decline: about 2,500 Greek Cypriots moved to the south during the remaining part of 1975, 5,800 during 1976, and 900 during 1977. By November 1981, only 1,076 Greek
Cypriots remained in the north.6 The population subsequently was reduced to less than 500, many of whom were very old. This decline, according to the Greek Cypriot side, was again ‘the result of a sustained campaign of harassment, discrimination and oppression’ directed towards them by the administration in the north.
It has been estimated that, prior to July 1974, the actual Turkish Cypriot population in the territory that subsequently came under Turkish control was 71,000; of these, 10,000 were persons who had originally lived in villages to the south of the new dividing line but had been displaced during the intercommunal strife of 1963–64. As for the Turkish Cypriots who lived south of the new line in 1974, many tried (secretly and apparently often under difficult and dangerous conditions) in the year that followed to reach what they regarded as freedom and the safety of the north. Also, in January 1975, some 9,000 Turkish Cypriots who had taken refuge at the British bases in Akrotiri when the Turkish military offensive began were transported (via Turkey) to the north. Thus, by June 1975 the number of Turkish Cypriots remaining in the south was only about 10,700. By September 1975 – following the Vienna III Agreement of 2 August 1975 – most had moved to the north, leaving only 130 Turkish Cypriots resident in the south.
Thus, the total figure of displaced persons in Cyprus following the events of 1974, including both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots, was in the range of 210,000. This corresponds to 30% of the total population of the island at the time (636,000).

more to come....................
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:57 pm

Please provide your source. :roll:
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:59 pm

Judgment of European Court of Human Rights dated 10 January 2008 in the case of Varnava and Others v Turkey - Greek-Cypriot Missing Persons

On 10 January 2007, the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) delivered its judgment in the case of Varnava and Others v Turkey (Applications nos. 16064/90, 16065/90, 16066/90, 16068/90, 16069/90, 16070/90, 16071/90, 16072/90 and 16073/90) by which Turkey was found guilty of violating the rights of nine Greek-Cypriot missing persons and their relatives. The nine were combatants, except for Savvas Hadjipanteli whose remains have been identified. They were all seen alive after their capture by the Turkish army in Cyprus and in Turkey where they had been transported as prisoners of war.

Τhe seven-judge panel of the ECHR’s Third Section, with only the judge from Turkey dissenting, held Turkey responsible for the violation of the following articles of the European Convention on Human Rights:

Article 2, for failing to conduct an effective investigation into the whereabouts and fate of the nine applicants, who disappeared in life threatening circumstances.

Article 3, for subjecting the remaining nine applicants, relatives of the missing, to inhuman and degrading treatment by not informing them about the fate of their loved ones.

Article 5, for failing to conduct an effective investigation into the whereabouts and fate of the nine applicants [in respect of whom there is an arguable claim that they have been deprived of their liberty and security at the time of their disappearance].

In its decision, the ECHR stresses that Turkey was obliged under international treaties to respect the wounded, prisoners of war and civilians and specifically under the European Convention on Human Rights it was obliged to take reasonable steps to protect the lives of those not, or no longer, engaged in hostilities. The judgment also rejects outright the Turkish position that the persons who disappeared during the 1974 Turkish invasion, and are still missing, should be presumed dead.

Regarding the relatives of those who disappeared while under Turkey’s custody, the ECHR observes that they “must have undoubtedly suffered most painful uncertainty and anxiety and furthermore their mental anguish did not vanish with the passing of time”.

It should also be noted that the ECHR affirms its previous finding that the Committee of Missing Persons (CMP) could not be considered a satisfactory replacement for Turkey’s obligation to carry out an “effective investigation” into the whereabouts of the missing persons. The ECHR also notes in its decision that even the exhumation and identification of remains, as was the case for one of the missing on the ECHR list, did not change this: “While it was true that the remains of Savvas Hadjipanteli had recently been discovered, that did not demonstrate that the CMP has been able to take any meaningful investigative steps beyond the belated location and identification of remains”… [ ]. Nor had that event displaced the Turkish Government’s accountability for the investigative process during the intervening period”.

The Government of the Republic of Cyprus considers that the Committee of Ministers should assume an active role and set strict deadlines, demand information and lay down steps that need to be taken for Turkey’s full compliance to the aforementioned ECHR judgment. The Committee of Ministers should, therefore, ask Turkey, at this stage, to do the following:

Promptly fulfill her obligations under the European Convention of Human Rights and implement the judgment of the ECHR dated 10 January 2007 in the case of Varnava and Others v Turkey.

Without delay inform the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe of the investigation mechanism that it intends to set up in order to conduct effective investigation into the fate of the missing persons, bearing in mind that the CMP is not a substitute for the apparatus that Turkey herself is obliged to establish.

Strasbourg, 21 January 2008
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