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Postby Magnus » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:12 pm

halil wrote:
Magnus wrote:I'm not sure about using Wikipedia as a valid historical source. I thought anyone can post in those entries. In fact the source for the 'ethnic cleansing of TCs' comes up as a dead link.

Assuming it is acceptable, then what about this entry on the same list:

On 5 and 6 September 1955 the Istanbul Pogrom or "Σεπτεμβριανά" was launched against the Greek population of Constantinople, it was secretly backed by the Turkish government ,some Jews and Armenians of the city were also attacked by the mob , the event contributed greatly to the gradual extinction of the Greek minority in the city and country which numbered 100,000 in 1924 after the Turko-Greek population exchange treaty and only 5000 in 2007 and was followed by the Turkish government planed expulsion of the Greek minority in the Imbros and Tenedos islands in the period 1923-1993


we are talking about Cyprus . history of the Cyprus .... which started for me at 1960 and up to now .
we are talking about displaced peoples from 63-74 and afterwords ....


Well those people that disappeared from Constantinople (and Turkey as a whole) by 2007 and Imbros and Tenedos by 1993 sound pretty displaced to me...
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:12 pm

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Magnus wrote:Rape and murder happen all over the world too. That doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't mean that people should just let it happen without complaining.

You can complain all you wish but the facts do not change with regards to countries many of which have been created on the loss of others, it has been seen throughout history.

That's PRECISELY why I refuse, and every other moral Greek Cypriot should refuse, to support Turkish Cypriots in their decadent quest.

Even though you and others put it on a plate for them all to see, some are still just plain stupid to see it.



GR, you have a Democratically elected Goverment. Why dont you support his moves/ negotiations instead of spewing all that garbage. Support your leader damn it. You have turned into a hucking wind up merchant of the first order. Zip it.

No regards :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:26 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Not sure what you would like to me express an opinion on but here goes, examples of the issues GCs could derail us on is trade with Turkey, a tax on Turkish tourists. They may claim they will not do anything but you cant expect us to leave it to chance, what have they got to fear if they are not going to go down that route anyway? Their refusal makes us more suspicious.


Sorry, my quote wasn't clear. I meant I would like your opinion on this:

Magnus wrote:Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why can't they devise a system where the Turkish Cypriots get a proportional vote in issues affecting the whole of Cyprus, but an equal vote in decisions that specifically affect the Turkish Cypriot community?

For example, government elections are set up on the principle of '1 man, 1 vote'. People vote for whomever they support.

When the government makes a decision that will specifically affect the Turkish Cypriot community, then power is split 50/50 between the government and something like a Council of Turkish Cypriots selected by the TC community to represent their interests.


I did answer before if you check back to when you asked the question originally, this you have to get GCs to agree to as they are the ones objecting, this si what we want and would agree no problem.
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Postby Magnus » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:31 pm

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Magnus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Not sure what you would like to me express an opinion on but here goes, examples of the issues GCs could derail us on is trade with Turkey, a tax on Turkish tourists. They may claim they will not do anything but you cant expect us to leave it to chance, what have they got to fear if they are not going to go down that route anyway? Their refusal makes us more suspicious.


Sorry, my quote wasn't clear. I meant I would like your opinion on this:

Magnus wrote:Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why can't they devise a system where the Turkish Cypriots get a proportional vote in issues affecting the whole of Cyprus, but an equal vote in decisions that specifically affect the Turkish Cypriot community?

For example, government elections are set up on the principle of '1 man, 1 vote'. People vote for whomever they support.

When the government makes a decision that will specifically affect the Turkish Cypriot community, then power is split 50/50 between the government and something like a Council of Turkish Cypriots selected by the TC community to represent their interests.


I did answer before if you check back to when you asked the question originally, this you have to get GCs to agree to as they are the ones objecting, this si what we want and would agree no problem.


So you confirm that the Turkish Cypriots would be happy to accept proportional representation in central government issues and a 50/50 spilt between the government and a Council of Turkish Cypriots on issues that directly affect the TC community?

In that case I think we can consider that problem solved! It's a pleasure doing business with you VP :D
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:37 pm

Magnus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Magnus wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Not sure what you would like to me express an opinion on but here goes, examples of the issues GCs could derail us on is trade with Turkey, a tax on Turkish tourists. They may claim they will not do anything but you cant expect us to leave it to chance, what have they got to fear if they are not going to go down that route anyway? Their refusal makes us more suspicious.


Sorry, my quote wasn't clear. I meant I would like your opinion on this:

Magnus wrote:Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why can't they devise a system where the Turkish Cypriots get a proportional vote in issues affecting the whole of Cyprus, but an equal vote in decisions that specifically affect the Turkish Cypriot community?

For example, government elections are set up on the principle of '1 man, 1 vote'. People vote for whomever they support.

When the government makes a decision that will specifically affect the Turkish Cypriot community, then power is split 50/50 between the government and something like a Council of Turkish Cypriots selected by the TC community to represent their interests.


I did answer before if you check back to when you asked the question originally, this you have to get GCs to agree to as they are the ones objecting, this si what we want and would agree no problem.


So you confirm that the Turkish Cypriots would be happy to accept proportional representation in central government issues and a 50/50 spilt between the government and a Council of Turkish Cypriots on issues that directly affect the TC community?

In that case I think we can consider that problem solved! It's a pleasure doing business with you VP :D


What I have been asking all along the right to say when issues effect us more negatively but the GCs insistently object so its them you have to convince not me.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:45 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Magnus wrote:Rape and murder happen all over the world too. That doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't mean that people should just let it happen without complaining.

You can complain all you wish but the facts do not change with regards to countries many of which have been created on the loss of others, it has been seen throughout history.

That's PRECISELY why I refuse, and every other moral Greek Cypriot should refuse, to support Turkish Cypriots in their decadent quest.

Even though you and others put it on a plate for them all to see, some are still just plain stupid to see it.



GR, you have a Democratically elected Goverment. Why dont you support his moves/ negotiations instead of spewing all that garbage. Support your leader damn it. You have turned into a hucking wind up merchant of the first order. Zip it.

No regards :lol:

Support Christofias? You gotta be kidding me... :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:46 pm

roseandchan wrote:no i think oracle believes that the roc goverment owns all of cyprus. she need to wake up and see the world still goes on in the trnc along with property transactions. she all full of quotes but no real conversation.


I wonder how roseandchan got on at the RoC Land Registry they said they would visit on Wednesday .....
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:18 pm

Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Magnus wrote:Rape and murder happen all over the world too. That doesn't make it right and it certainly doesn't mean that people should just let it happen without complaining.

You can complain all you wish but the facts do not change with regards to countries many of which have been created on the loss of others, it has been seen throughout history.

That's PRECISELY why I refuse, and every other moral Greek Cypriot should refuse, to support Turkish Cypriots in their decadent quest.

Even though you and others put it on a plate for them all to see, some are still just plain stupid to see it.



GR, you have a Democratically elected Goverment. Why dont you support his moves/ negotiations instead of spewing all that garbage. Support your leader damn it. You have turned into a hucking wind up merchant of the first order. Zip it.

No regards :lol:

Support Christofias? You gotta be kidding me... :roll:



Dont you consider yourself as a traitor then?
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:21 pm

[quote="Oracle"][quote="roseandchan"]no i think oracle believes that the roc goverment owns all of cyprus. she need to wake up and see the world still goes on in the trnc along with property transactions. she all full of quotes but no real conversation.[/quote]

I wonder how roseandchan got on at the RoC Land Registry they said they would visit on Wednesday .....[/quote]

How was Miltiades' BBQ on Amathus beach Oracle? Did you enjoy yourself? :roll:
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Re: Brits in North Cyprus

Postby Z4 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:02 am

halil wrote:Northern Cyprus is home to around 200,000 residents and the Brits in North Cyprus make up just one percent of the population but their numbers are increasing annually as the attraction and appeal of the island becomes more widely known and appreciated.

This article discusses the rights of British citizens in TRNC and also what life’s like for Brits of all ages in North Cyprus.

British passport holders can freely enter the TRNC without the requirement of any specific visa. When you arrive at Ercan airport, Girne or Magusa ports or any of the North/South border crossings you can complete a simple visa form and have this stamped instead of your passport if you prefer. After three months of residing in North Cyprus you should apply for temporary residence or leave the country. At the moment you need only leave for a period of 24 hours before returning and receiving a further 3 month tourist visa but this is under review.

Brits coming to the island to start a business or seek a job need a work permit in addition to their residency and both can be applied for at the same time. The British Residents Society in TRNC are best placed to advise on the procedures to obtain both of these documents and their website address is http://www.brstrnc.com/

For a long time Northern Cyprus was mainly home to retired expatriates, many of whom had links to the island pre 1974, many of whom had military ties and all of whom had a strong affinity with the Turkish Cypriot people. These people had the secret island all to themselves until the property boom began in earnest about four years ago and the island’s profile was raised with the creation of the Annan Plan and the Republic of Cyprus’ entry into Europe. Since then there has been a large influx of expatriates, mainly from the UK, who have bought holiday homes, second homes, investment properties and even a new home for life in the TRNC.

Now that the community of Brits in North Cyprus includes many young people and families it’s important to know what’s available in terms of education and health care facilities and also, what there is to do in Northern Cyprus to keep both children and adults entertained!

When it comes to schooling there are a number of options available. Firstly there are quite a few local kindergartens in and around Girne that are very reasonable especially compared to UK fees. The English language school Sunny Lane also accepts children from as young as 2 and a half years old into their preschool program. Sunny Lane is west of Kyrenia and it offers teaching through the medium of English for pupils up to the age of 16. Class sizes are restricted to a maximum of 15 pupils so that children get maximum attention and focus. Sunny Lane is a private school, state school options at primary and secondary are available across Northern Cyprus with many towns and villages having primary schools and most pupils then attending secondary schooling in Girne, Lefkosia or Magusa.

One other option open to parents now that the border between the North and South is open to British passport holders is letting your children attend one of the bilingual or English language schools on the South.

Health care in Northern Cyprus is excellent. The options available to you depend on your budget. Some people choose to take out health insurance but often find that their excess is more than they have to pay for treatment! You can attend state or private doctors, clinics and hospitals and you will never go untreated if you do not have health insurance. There are a lot of doctors, specialists, dentists and opticians in Northern Cyprus so you should always find someone to assist you. Pharmacies sell the majority of prescription drugs over the counter so if you need a course of antibiotics for something not too serious you can just self-prescribe rather than having to visit a doctor. Furthermore many of the pharmacists will happily advise you depending on the severity of your condition of course!

In terms of what there is to do in Northern Cyprus - well, when you get bored of gazing at the Med, swimming in it, diving under it or sailing on it you can lie on the beach or build sandcastles. When that gets too tedious you can visit one of the many spectacular Byzantine castles or a mosque or two, a couple of ancient cities, do some shopping North and South of the border, visit aqua parks, golf courses and spas, travel up the Karpas, see the donkeys, go parasailing, socialise with the many, many friends you will make here. And when all that gets too much you can eat out in a different restaurant every night of the week for about six months, go bar hopping, listen to a myriad of live bands and singers, play bridge, badminton, rugby, football or go to church. You can walk in the mountains, quadbike in the mountains, go horse riding in the mountains or go South and ski in the mountains.


This obviously isn't written by you. I've seen some of your posts and I'm sure you are GAVCARoCOM's brother or sister.

It looks like it is writen by a 'Brit' who is selling houses or trying to advertise in the North.
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