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[denizaksulu]

why would the owners want to go back and live in a place where the goverment stole their land?

Pathetic argument.

The RoC still recognises the legal ownership and title deeds of the TCs.

It is the Turkish Army which has stolen GC lands in 74 when it invaded the island. And it is people like you who are an accessory to this crime by purchaseing stolen GC property.

With due respect to your feelings on the property issue, can I assume you have seen the deeds roseandchan have or the deeds of the property they have acquired?

I will say whatever I like. I challenge her to visit the Land Registry of the Republic of Cyprus and cross check her title deed to see whether she is in possession of stolen property or not.

I for one am not denying anyone their freedom of speech. You sound as if you are 100% sure that you are dealing with stolen property. I am not suggesting one bit that is has not happened. Many are always asking for the evidence thats all. Its not too much to ask I hope.

Perhaps the next time some bigot will ask me for the 'evidence' I can, and will use the same reply you have given me.

Regards

[DT.]

i think if a solution is found then together bothsides should sit down and make a set price say per meter for any land on both sides of the island. thats the only fair way. todays market values only represent which areas had investment money and tourist money, like kyrenia and pafos. both have higher property prices. not everyone will be happy but whatever the decition will be it won't please everyone.

I don't recall me providing you with advise on how to get compensation for you home in England. Oh thats right, you weren't invaded, you weren't kicked out of your house by troops and you do not have some strangers living in your house right now.

You are not welcome in this subject of which you know nothing about. I have had my property taken from me and someone else is having dinner in our dining room tonight. You know nothing.

Nor were they persecuting minorities, burning their houses down or killing people, look at it from this angle maybe you paid the price for your sins.

VP, my family and I have committed no sins. If I used this argument for any tragedies that the TC's had met with, your response would have been one describing me of being a brutal and violent Turk-hater.

I have never made out that any killings or illegalities on TC's or on GC's were well deserved because of what some brainless fools in their communities had done.

Your one-sidedness is the reason that none of your so-called apologies for any misfortune met by GC's is greeted with suspicion.

[Viewpoint]

why would the owners want to go back and live in a place where the goverment stole their land?

Pathetic argument.

The RoC still recognises the legal ownership and title deeds of the TCs.

It is the Turkish Army which has stolen GC lands in 74 when it invaded the island. And it is people like you who are an accessory to this crime by purchaseing stolen GC property.

With due respect to your feelings on the property issue, can I assume you have seen the deeds roseandchan have or the deeds of the property they have acquired?

I will say whatever I like. I challenge her to visit the Land Registry of the Republic of Cyprus and cross check her title deed to see whether she is in possession of stolen property or not.

You have prosecuted people who have sold TC land in the south so denying it is not going on is wrong, seeing you are so blind and in denial confirms that this maybe just the tip of the iceberg of all the sales of TC land going on in the "RoC".

[Paphitis]

why would the owners want to go back and live in a place where the goverment stole their land?

Pathetic argument.

The RoC still recognises the legal ownership and title deeds of the TCs.

It is the Turkish Army which has stolen GC lands in 74 when it invaded the island. And it is people like you who are an accessory to this crime by purchaseing stolen GC property.

With due respect to your feelings on the property issue, can I assume you have seen the deeds roseandchan have or the deeds of the property they have acquired?

I will say whatever I like. I challenge her to visit the Land Registry of the Republic of Cyprus and cross check her title deed to see whether she is in possession of stolen property or not.

I for one am not denying anyone their freedom of speech. You sound as if you are 100% sure that you are dealing with stolen property. I am not suggesting one bit that is has not happened. Many are always asking for the evidence thats all. Its not too much to ask I hope.

Perhaps the next time some bigot will ask me for the 'evidence' I can, and will use the same reply you have given me.

Regards

No I am not 100% sure. That is why I challenge her to visit the Land Registry in the south. If she is so sure that her property is legitimate, she would have no problem with this.

And any Brit living in the unrecognised "trnc" is an accessory to the crimes perpetuated against the Republic of Cyprus.

[Viewpoint]

i think if a solution is found then together bothsides should sit down and make a set price say per meter for any land on both sides of the island. thats the only fair way. todays market values only represent which areas had investment money and tourist money, like kyrenia and pafos. both have higher property prices. not everyone will be happy but whatever the decition will be it won't please everyone.

I don't recall me providing you with advise on how to get compensation for you home in England. Oh thats right, you weren't invaded, you weren't kicked out of your house by troops and you do not have some strangers living in your house right now.

You are not welcome in this subject of which you know nothing about. I have had my property taken from me and someone else is having dinner in our dining room tonight. You know nothing.

Nor were they persecuting minorities, burning their houses down or killing people, look at it from this angle maybe you paid the price for your sins.

VP, my family and I have committed no sins. If I used this argument for any tragedies that the TC's had met with, your response would have been one describing me of being a brutal and violent Turk-hater.

I have never made out that any killings or illegalities on TC's or on GC's were well deserved because of what some brainless fools in their communities had done.

Your one-sidedness is the reason that none of your so-called apologies for any misfortune met by GC's is greeted with suspicion.

My apology for the deaths of innocent GCs is sincere but I am not fussed if you accept it or not everyone is answerable to their own thoughts and during that debate its was obvious that GR and Obstacle were not in any way moved or regretful for the deaths of TCs buried in Murataga, that proves more about them than me.

You pay for the sins of your community for keeping silent while we suffered at the hands of GCs, why do you not ask them why they caused division, why they ran after a dream of enosis without giving a second thought as to what would happen to us, you don't you hold the eoka bastards accountable and blame them for inviting the Turkish army here.

[Paphitis]

why would the owners want to go back and live in a place where the goverment stole their land?

Pathetic argument.

The RoC still recognises the legal ownership and title deeds of the TCs.

It is the Turkish Army which has stolen GC lands in 74 when it invaded the island. And it is people like you who are an accessory to this crime by purchaseing stolen GC property.

With due respect to your feelings on the property issue, can I assume you have seen the deeds roseandchan have or the deeds of the property they have acquired?

I will say whatever I like. I challenge her to visit the Land Registry of the Republic of Cyprus and cross check her title deed to see whether she is in possession of stolen property or not.

You have prosecuted people who have sold TC land in the south so denying it is not going on is wrong, seeing you are so blind and in denial confirms that this maybe just the tip of the iceberg of all the sales of TC land going on in the "RoC".

That just proves that selling TC property in the south is illegal and a prosecutable offence. As a result, I will presume that the legitimate ownership of the properties in question is protected by the Republic of Cyprus.

Thanks VP for this vital ammunition you have given me. You have helped my argument considerably.

[roseandchan]

as i said i didn't steal anyones land. i am going to your roc land registry tomorrow,i am being serious as i need to check my land size. i am not afraid as i have done nothing wrong.i spoke with them this morning. halil has seen my title deed for my house, pinarbasi has always been turkish cypriot. find me one greek cypriot that ever lived in kirni/pinarbasi.

[DT.]

as i said i didn't steal anyones land. i am going to your roc land registry tomorrow,i am being serious as i need to check my land size. i am not afraid as i have done nothing wrong.i spoke with them this morning. halil has seen my title deed for my house, pinarbasi has always been turkish cypriot. find me one greek cypriot that ever lived in kirni/pinarbasi.

no one questioned the land you've bought (at elast I haven't) Its whether or not you are in a position to comment on the plight of the refugees that I question.

[Paphitis]

as i said i didn't steal anyones land. i am going to your roc land registry tomorrow,i am being serious as i need to check my land size. i am not afraid as i have done nothing wrong.i spoke with them this morning. halil has seen my title deed for my house, pinarbasi has always been turkish cypriot. find me one greek cypriot that ever lived in kirni/pinarbasi.

Well then I have no reason to doubt you. You have my apologies for incinuating otherwise.

But please be a little more sympathetic towards the 160,000 GCs who have had their homes stolen and were ethnically cleansed.

[roseandchan]

in 1980 our turkish cypriot friend escape from cyprus. he was treated in the uk hospitals for wounds which he got here in the war whilst in the army. he didn't want to fight he was made to. he was a teenage boy at the time. his parents were killed and his family scattered around the world. this guy is part of my family and is like a brother to me, so i think i have the right to comment. the only thing i commented on was how to find a fair solution regarding the compensation of properties owned by both greek and turkish cypriots and that the compensation paid should be the same for both sides.