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[denizaksulu]

MEMORANDUM OF EVIDENCE BY THE

BRITISH RESIDENTS SOCIETY

OF

NORTH CYPRUS

INTRODUCTION

Here's the only memorandum these criminals should be worried about...

The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (1998) defines "the transfer directly or indirectly by the Occupying power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies" as a War Crime indictable by the International Criminal Court. (Article 7, Crimes Against Humanity.)

Article 46 of the Hague Convention prohibits the confiscation of private property in occupied territory. The confiscation of land by the Turkish government for settlement construction is in violation of this article. (Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague II); July 29, 1899)

Article 55 of the Hague Convention stipulates that "the occupying state shall be regarded only as administrator and *usufructuary of public buildings, real estate, forests, and agricultural estates belonging to the hostile State, and situated in the occupied country. It must safeguard the capital of these properties, and administer them in accordance with the rules of usufruct." In other words, the occupying power cannot take over or use territories or private properties in the occupied territories to serve the interests of its civilian population. (Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague II); July 29, 1899)

* A person who has the use and enjoyment of something, especially property

As a point of interest, is 'Israel' aware of the above mentioned statutes regarding 'moving their own populations' etc?

[halil]

Has there been any land lost by the TC's in the south? & if yes are they able to sell it to GC's if they still own their title?

below map clearly shows before 1974 where TC's setteled and lands they did have .from the map you can clearly see . İn north There was a Turkish Cypriots lands . İts means all the lands does not belongs to GC's .
you are always misinforming world . No one is occupping TC's lands at North . We have every rights to build up hotels or otherthings in our lands .
also There are TC's lands in South .They are all valuable like GC's has in South .No one is denying that GC's hasn't got a property in North .Yes they have but you must learn that TC's has got as well .

[CanDiaz]

Has there been any land lost by the TC's in the south? & if yes are they able to sell it to GC's if they still own their title?

below map clearly shows before 1974 where TC's setteled and lands they did have .from the map you can clearly see . İn north There was a Turkish Cypriots lands . İts means all the lands does not belongs to GC's .
you are always misinforming world . No one is occupping TC's lands at North . We have every rights to build up hotels or otherthings in our lands .
also There are TC's lands in South .They are all valuable like GC's has in South .No one is denying that GC's hasn't got a property in North .Yes they have but you must learn that TC's has got as well .

Ive read about some "abandoned" villages, (i think it was near Polis?!) are all TC property's & lands untouched by any developement or such, as has been claimed in above post's?

[denizaksulu]

Has there been any land lost by the TC's in the south? & if yes are they able to sell it to GC's if they still own their title?

below map clearly shows before 1974 where TC's setteled and lands they did have .from the map you can clearly see . İn north There was a Turkish Cypriots lands . İts means all the lands does not belongs to GC's .
you are always misinforming world . No one is occupping TC's lands at North . We have every rights to build up hotels or otherthings in our lands .
also There are TC's lands in South .They are all valuable like GC's has in South .No one is denying that GC's hasn't got a property in North .Yes they have but you must learn that TC's has got as well .

Ive read about some "abandoned" villages, (i think it was near Polis?!) are all TC property's & lands untouched by any developement or such, as has been claimed in above post's?

Some lands have been developed and some have not. North and south.

The truth lies between both claims.

Regards

[CanDiaz]

The truth lies between both claims.

Regards

it usually does, thanks for the reply.

[pythona]

Ive read about some "abandoned" villages, (i think it was near Polis?!) are all TC property's & lands untouched by any developement or such, as has been claimed in above post's?

Turkish Cypriots left few homes but GCs were forced out leaving many more in the occupied Cyprus. Many GCs' homes were sold by the Turkish, but no Turkish Cypriot homes were sold by GCs in free-Cyprus.

After the Turkish invasion, abandoned Turkish Cypriot properties were taken over by the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties, which will return them upon a solution of the political problem.

He reiterated the government line that Turkish Cypriots could claim their property if they permanently settled in the free areas.

“If there are any difficulties or disagreements they could appeal in court against any decision made by the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties,” the spokesman said.

Chrysostomides said the Republic provided shelter to all Turkish Cypriots intending to stay.

Commenting on Turkish actions to bypass the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on the issue of properties, Chrysostomides said there was no possibility the ECHR would accept such an arrangement.

Foreign Minister George Iacovou, who flew to Strasbourg yesterday, confirmed that the Turkish side was trying hard to bypass the ECHR.
Cyprus Mail 15/05/03

[Piratis]

Has there been any land lost by the TC's in the south? & if yes are they able to sell it to GC's if they still own their title?

below map clearly shows before 1974 where TC's setteled and lands they did have .from the map you can clearly see . İn north There was a Turkish Cypriots lands . İts means all the lands does not belongs to GC's .
you are always misinforming world . No one is occupping TC's lands at North . We have every rights to build up hotels or otherthings in our lands .
also There are TC's lands in South .They are all valuable like GC's has in South .No one is denying that GC's hasn't got a property in North .Yes they have but you must learn that TC's has got as well .

There are huge differences:

1) The TCs wanted partition since the 50s, and continue to want it. they were not driven out of their homes by force, they left voluntarily in order to achieve their dream of partition.

2) The attachment of TCs to the lands they originally inhabited is apparently much less to the attachment of GCs to their own lands. This is maybe because GCs have a way longer history on those lands, while the TCs arived relatively much more recently.

3) The TCs are 18% of the population and they grabbed twice as much in the north (36%). Something tells me that if they had grabbed half (9%) instead of double (36%) then partition wouldn't suit them as much.

Also there are differences in how the properties of TCs are handled in the free areas and how the properties of GCs are handled in the occupied areas.

In the free areas the properties of TCs were not given to anybody else. TCs are the only ones who hold titles for them. Most of those properties sit idle waiting for a solution to the Cyprus problem so the TC can take them back, although there are ways for TCs to take them back even before a solution.

If any of those properties was used this was done either (a) to temporarily house refugees, who will leave and go back to their own homes once a solution is found, or (b) that they were expropriated by the goverment to build roads, shcools etc, just like the properties of all citizens are sometimes expropriated for these reasons.

On the other hand the properties of GCs in the occupied are all stolen.
The occupation regime issued new fake title deeds and gave them to TCs, Turkish Settlers and foreigners.

[halil]

Ive read about some "abandoned" villages, (i think it was near Polis?!) are all TC property's & lands untouched by any developement or such, as has been claimed in above post's?

Turkish Cypriots left few homes but GCs were forced out leaving many more in the occupied Cyprus. Many GCs' homes were sold by the Turkish, but no Turkish Cypriot homes were sold by GCs in free-Cyprus.

After the Turkish invasion, abandoned Turkish Cypriot properties were taken over by the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties, which will return them upon a solution of the political problem.

He reiterated the government line that Turkish Cypriots could claim their property if they permanently settled in the free areas.

“If there are any difficulties or disagreements they could appeal in court against any decision made by the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties,” the spokesman said.

Chrysostomides said the Republic provided shelter to all Turkish Cypriots intending to stay.

Commenting on Turkish actions to bypass the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on the issue of properties, Chrysostomides said there was no possibility the ECHR would accept such an arrangement.

Foreign Minister George Iacovou, who flew to Strasbourg yesterday, confirmed that the Turkish side was trying hard to bypass the ECHR.
Cyprus Mail 15/05/03

Deniz , have you seen ?

[denizaksulu]

Ive read about some "abandoned" villages, (i think it was near Polis?!) are all TC property's & lands untouched by any developement or such, as has been claimed in above post's?

Turkish Cypriots left few homes but GCs were forced out leaving many more in the occupied Cyprus. Many GCs' homes were sold by the Turkish, but no Turkish Cypriot homes were sold by GCs in free-Cyprus.

After the Turkish invasion, abandoned Turkish Cypriot properties were taken over by the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties, which will return them upon a solution of the political problem.

He reiterated the government line that Turkish Cypriots could claim their property if they permanently settled in the free areas.

“If there are any difficulties or disagreements they could appeal in court against any decision made by the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties,” the spokesman said.

Chrysostomides said the Republic provided shelter to all Turkish Cypriots intending to stay.

Commenting on Turkish actions to bypass the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) on the issue of properties, Chrysostomides said there was no possibility the ECHR would accept such an arrangement.

Foreign Minister George Iacovou, who flew to Strasbourg yesterday, confirmed that the Turkish side was trying hard to bypass the ECHR.
Cyprus Mail 15/05/03

The issue we were discussing was the issue of who owns what land in the north. Before 1974, there was a lot of Turkish Cypriot owned land which some have denied or overlook.

The 'illegal' selling of GC land and property is deplorable and does not help the TC cause an Iota. This I agree with. (especially the double dippers).

[halil]

in few houses 65000 TC's were living upto 75.......

what a life