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[Kifeas]

You ask me if I am willing (me personally I suppose, because as you may understand, I cannot speak on behalf of the RoC,) to put back the constitution of 1960 into a full effect, if the Turkish Army lives tomorrow.

I personally would do it, provided that the leadership of the TC community, simultaneously with the removal of the Turkish Army, will be ready to: a.) Denounce the existence of “TRNC”, b) Accept the full authority of the RoC in the entire area of Cyprus, c.) Accept the continuation of the RoC from 1960 until now and therefore all the laws, agreements and international treaties signed by it throughout all these years, d.) Accept that all the settlers, except those married with TCs and a logically small percentage of the rest (solely on the basis of humanitarian reasons,) should live from Cyprus and will agree to cooperate and participate in their relocation back to Turkey, e.) Accept that the property issue should be treated on the basis of full respect of human and property rights of the original owners, except were it will be necessary to deviate from this principle on the basis of humanitarian reasons and in favour of the TCs that left from the south and do not wish to be relocated back to their original properties.

Furthermore, Turkey, with the removal its troops from Cyprus, should: a.) Recognise the RoC and simultaneously de-recognise the “TRNC” b.) Should actively pursue and facilitate the relocation of settlers back to Turkey, both financially and physically.

I said all the above, including what you quoted, in order for the GC community to accept reinstatement of the TC community’s constitutional participation in the RoC.

And you said that this would equate to a nullification of Cyprus's membership to EU. And then you also quoted an article of the RoC constitution, which is still in place in the constitution and is still observed by the RoC until today.

And I ask you why is this going to happen.
I.e. why will the return of the TC community back into the RoC as I prescribed above and the acceptance by the TC community of it’s (RoC) continuation from 1960 until today will renter the E.U. accession as null and void, and what relationship does the article of the constitution that you quoted has with all these?

[Viewpoint]

its all tahini pie in the sky dream on Kifeas

[Kifeas]

Βοή Κόρακος, Κρά!

What can you hear from a Raven’s mouth? Craa!

[Viewpoint]

Ravens can shit on your head as well

[garbitsch]

What I am trying to say is simple. The Treaty of Guarantee is suspended, because the Greek side claims that Turkey had violated this agreement, so that neither parties conform it. If Turkey pulls its army and the RoC is restored again, then this agreement will be in effect again. According to this agreement, Cyprus's membership to EU is illegal. Well, this is something not important. You might not take it into consideration.

[Kifeas]

What I am trying to say is simple. The Treaty of Guarantee is suspended, because the Greek side claims that Turkey had violated this agreement, so that neither parties conform it. If Turkey pulls its army and the RoC is restored again, then this agreement will be in effect again. According to this agreement, Cyprus's membership to EU is illegal. Well, this is something not important. You might not take it into consideration.

The treaty of guarantee according to the RoC is not officially suspended. Turkey unilaterally violates the treaty of guarantee according to the RoC, due to Turkey’s continues occupation of the north and it’s non-recognition of the RoC. The treaty of guarantee by itself, suspended or not, doesn’t prohibit the RoC to be a member of the E.U.
The E.U. is not a State.

[MicAtCyp]

If TCs was succesfull at making propaganda and agitation as much as the Hellenes are successful; the Cyprus problem would have been solved 20 years ago.

The Tcs don't know how to make propoganda because their recipe is 98% lies and 2% truth. The problem is 98% of the TCs can’t see the difference!!

such as return of all refugees and relocation of all TC refugees together with all their descendants, nullification of treaty of guarantee and treaty of alliance, majority rule etc. There's no TC or Turkish political party which will accept such outrageous demands of GCs; neither the overwhelming majority of TC community would accept such outrageous demands of Hellenic ruling elite.

I told you before.These are not demands of the ruling elite. The are demands of the people

[metecyp]

The Tcs don't know how to make propoganda because their recipe is 98% lies and 2% truth. The problem is 98% of the TCs can’t see the difference!!

Another genius remark from MicAtCyp...! we lie, we steal, we rape, we sing "Atlilar-Murataga-Sandallar" poem, we're brainwashed....do we do anything right?

[garbitsch]

If TCs was succesfull at making propaganda and agitation as much as the Hellenes are successful; the Cyprus problem would have been solved 20 years ago.

The Tcs don't know how to make propoganda because their recipe is 98% lies and 2% truth. The problem is 98% of the TCs can’t see the difference!!

such as return of all refugees and relocation of all TC refugees together with all their descendants, nullification of treaty of guarantee and treaty of alliance, majority rule etc. There's no TC or Turkish political party which will accept such outrageous demands of GCs; neither the overwhelming majority of TC community would accept such outrageous demands of Hellenic ruling elite.

I told you before.These are not demands of the ruling elite. The are demands of the people

EXTERMINATE US THEN! YOU RACIST!

[MicAtCyp]

Another genius remark from MicAtCyp...! we lie, we steal, we rape, we sing "Atlilar-Murataga-Sandallar" poem, we're brainwashed....do we do anything right?

EXTERMINATE US THEN!

What is this some sort of massive hysteria? Did I step on egg shells again?
By the way Metecyp why don't you wonder whether the GCs did or do anything right? I have no problem admitting we are worse than you. And I don't need to exterminate anyone because you are so cutie idiots like us! Otherwise there wouldn’t be a Cyprus problem....