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[insan]

are 5 Afrika collumnists the overwhelmin majority of TCs?

Refugees have the right for their properties and not even the 100% of TCs can't cut this right from them.

Noone can force any TC for relocation and not even the %100 of Hellenes can force them to relocate.

[Piratis]

Go to "locate" yourselves in your own properties, not our own.

Sure we can not force the thieves to leave from our properties because these thieves have the tanks behind them. but we have the right and the law on our side, justice will prevail sooner or later.

[insan]

Go to "locate" yourselves in your own properties, not our own.

Sure we can not force the thieves to leave from our properties because these thieves have the tanks behind them. but we have the right and the law on our side, justice will prevail sooner or later.

The GC "thieves" freely use TC properties in South for 40 years and sell the products any country exists in the world. How can these "thieves" illegaly and freely use TC properties in the so-called RoC? Ahmet in the North can't sell the good other countries which he cultivates on GC land but Giorgios can freely sell the goods to other countries which he cultivates on TC land.

Ahmet who runs a restaurant belongs to a GC earned 100 $ in the last 30 years under the embargos; Giorgios who runs a restaurant belongs to TC, in Larnaca earned 10.000 $ in last 30 or even 40 years.

Girgioses are very happy with what they "stole" from the TCs. They both stole the RoC and the properties belong to TCs in South. Moreover they illegaly use the TC properties and RoC to make a damn huge fortune. Of course they don't want a solution as it is envisaged in Annan Plan. They think RoC, TC properties in South and GC properties in North are all theirs.

[Agios Amvrosios]

Wake up you idiots!

You are a pariah state!

Genocide Murder Rape and Ethnic Cleansing cannot be whitewashed!

[Kifeas]

Anyway coming to today environment. The only way you can justify extraordinary circumstances on the island is the existence of Turkish army. That is why I have bluntly asked you the question of if you are willing to put back the 1960 constitution back into effect if Turkish army leaves tomorrow?

Not only the existence of the Turkish army, in my opinion, but also the existence of an entity called “TRNC,” the huge number of settlers and illegal workers in the north, the violation of property rights of GCs and the illegal sale of them, all together constitute a situation that can be described as an extraordinary one.

You ask me if I am willing (me personally I suppose, because as you may understand, I cannot speak on behalf of the RoC,) to put back the constitution of 1960 into a full effect, if the Turkish Army lives tomorrow.

I personally would do it, provided that the leadership of the TC community, simultaneously with the removal of the Turkish Army, will be ready to: a.) Denounce the existence of “TRNC”, b) Accept the full authority of the RoC in the entire area of Cyprus, c.) Accept the continuation of the RoC from 1960 until now and therefore all the laws, agreements and international treaties signed by it throughout all these years, d.) Accept that all the settlers, except those married with TCs and a logically small percentage of the rest (solely on the basis of humanitarian reasons,) should live from Cyprus and will agree to cooperate and participate in their relocation back to Turkey, e.) Accept that the property issue should be treated on the basis of full respect of human and property rights of the original owners, except were it will be necessary to deviate from this principle on the basis of humanitarian reasons and in favour of the TCs that left from the south and do not wish to be relocated back to their original properties.

Furthermore, Turkey, with the removal its troops from Cyprus, should: a.) Recognise the RoC and simultaneously de-recognise the “TRNC” b.) Should actively pursue and facilitate the relocation of settlers back to Turkey, both financially and physically.

Under this (above) scenario, if I were the leader of the GC community or the RoC, I would immediately give to the TC community all its separate communal constitutional rights. I would also remove any (although they are a very small number) mainland Greek troops that exist at the moment in the south and denounce any joined military pacts with Greece. I would also be willing to renegotiate any previously taken RoC laws or decisions that objectively have a gross negative effect on the interests and feelings of the TC community.

If however, a number of TCs (small or big) wish on an individual initiative (i.e. not the community as a whole with it’s leadership,) wish to participate in the RoC political system, then this issue will be addressed in the way that the case of Ibrahim Aziz dictates, i.e. all political rights that every other individual has in the Republic of Cyprus but without accepting to grant the separate political status of a separate community.

Now that I have given my personal testimony, I would like to here your own views on the matter.

Do you suggest that the RoC should reinstate the separate community rights of the TCs, even though the situation remains as it is now, and perhaps half of the members of the TC community choose to participate in the RoC and the other half will continue to pursue the maintenance and continuation of the “TRNC”?

What do you personally suggest?

[garbitsch]

Accept the continuation of the RoC from 1960 until now and therefore all the laws, agreements and international treaties signed by it throughout all these years.

Article I

The Republic of Cyprus undertakes to ensure the maintenance of its independence, territorial integrity and security, as well as respect for its Constitution.

It undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political or economic union with any State whatsoever. It accordingly declares prohibited any activity likely to promote, directly or indirectly, either union with any other State or partition of the Island

So, if what you say Kifeas is happened, then Cyprus's membership to EU becomes automatically null and void. Who wishes this to happen?

[Kifeas]

Bingooo!!! Garbitch, you have just discovered the tashinopitta (tahini pie.)

[garbitsch]

I hate Tahinli Pitta

[Kifeas]

Accept the continuation of the RoC from 1960 until now and therefore all the laws, agreements and international treaties signed by it throughout all these years.

Article I

The Republic of Cyprus undertakes to ensure the maintenance of its independence, territorial integrity and security, as well as respect for its Constitution.

It undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political or economic union with any State whatsoever. It accordingly declares prohibited any activity likely to promote, directly or indirectly, either union with any other State or partition of the Island

So, if what you say Kifeas is happened, then Cyprus's membership to EU becomes automatically null and void. Who wishes this to happen?

Why??
What do I say to happen??

[garbitsch]

You said: Accept the continuation of the RoC from 1960 until now and therefore all the laws, agreements and international treaties signed by it throughout all these years.

I am a bit puzzled though... You just declared that I just discovered the tashinopitta. Now you say "why".