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Postby insan » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:51 pm

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We are kindly asking our wise GC compatriots to show us a way to exercise our 1960 constitutional rights in a fashion which is not illegal under your own constitution.


I dropped at the end of this thread so sorry if I missed anything.

The answer to Turkcyp is simple: End the occupation. You can't expect to control both the 36% of Cyprus just by yourselves and then share the rest of Cyprus with us, right?



Piratis, if a certain percentage of TCs want to return their homes and be a part of RoC according to the 60s agreements; you can't come with an excuse "first go and end the occupation then come and ask your rights." Occupation is not the problem of TCs who will choose to return and be a part of the RoC. As long as they live in RoC and respect it; it means they don't want to live in occupied areas and they don't defend the occupation. In this case all constitutional rights of TCs who will choose to return RoC should be granted.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:57 pm

Occupation is not the problem of TCs


Sure, it would be very convenient if occupation was the problem only of GCs, just like it is convenient when a "solution" is solving the problems only for TCs and Turkey. I hope you can understand that in practice it doesn't work that way.

the problem is a problem for all, and the solution should be a solution for all.
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Postby insan » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:10 am

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Occupation is not the problem of TCs


Sure, it would be very convenient if occupation was the problem only of GCs, just like it is convenient when a "solution" is solving the problems only for TCs and Turkey. I hope you can understand that in practice it doesn't work that way.

the problem is a problem for all, and the solution should be a solution for all.


You well know what I meant but it suits you to twist my words. Why didn't you answer the whole argument?

Actually it is not completely your fault. It is more the TC's fault who prefer silence and do not seek justice. If TCs was succesfull at making propaganda and agitation as much as the Hellenes are successful; the Cyprus problem would have been solved 20 years ago.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:18 am

Insan, I didn't twist anything. You said that occupation is not a problem of TCs, which I disagree.

TCs and Turkey make the most propaganda possible. All they have to show is just 10-15 years, and they exaggerated these 10-15 years to make them seem bigger than the 30 years of illegal occupation and the centuries that the GCs suffered under the Turks.

If the offender had to be punished by ethically removing him from an area, then the Turks should have been removed from Cyprus long long time ago. So don't pretend to be the virgin Maries and the only victims that now have to be reworded.

You deserve no reword and we deserve no punishment.
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Postby insan » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:45 am

Insan, I didn't twist anything. You said that occupation is not a problem of TCs, which I disagree


Of course you are twisting my words. I said that the so-called Roc should not violate the constitutional rights of TCs who live in so-called free areas; by hiding itself behind the occupation excuse.
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Postby insan » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:49 am

TCs and Turkey make the most propaganda possible. All they have to show is just 10-15 years, and they exaggerated these 10-15 years to make them seem bigger than the 30 years of illegal occupation and the centuries that the GCs suffered under the Turks.


One more thing to remind you the primary reson of 30 years of ongoing occupation is your infeasible nad imaginery demands; such as return of all refugees and relocation of all TC refugees together with all their descendants, nullification of treaty of guarantee and treaty of alliance, majority rule etc. There's no TC or Turkish political party which will accept such outrageous demands of GCs; neither the overwhelming majority of TC community would accept such outrageous demands of Hellenic ruling elite.
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:36 am

lol i've read countless articles in Afrika newspaper stating that the refugees should return to there properties.
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Postby insan » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:40 am

Main_Source wrote:lol i've read countless articles in Afrika newspaper stating that the refugees should return to there properties.



lol are 5 Afrika collumnists the overwhelmin majority of TCs? :lol:
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:08 am

There's no TC or Turkish political party which will accept such outrageous demands of GCs


you've gone from no TC to 5 in the space of 5 mins :D [/quote]
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Postby Piratis » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:09 am

are 5 Afrika collumnists the overwhelmin majority of TCs?


Refugees have the right for their properties and not even the 100% of TCs can't cut this right from them.
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