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Can Greek Cypriots vote in the N Cyprus elections at all?

[turkcyp]

Contradiction in terms...I dunno, was it a typing error or have i missed something. Explain please bro.

And also, considering the borders only opened under three years ago...I dont see how you could want things to change so quick. Things dont change just by someone demanding for change on the spot...be realistic.

But have we come to relise that TC CAN or CAN'T currently vote in RoC with legit Cypriot citizenship?...Yes or No?

I am not contradicting myself.

This is your constituion read it please.
http://www.kypros.org/Constitution/English/

and learn that TCs are not allowed to vote in presidential elections. That is why it is illegal for TCs to vote in south. Furthermore TCs do not want to vote in presidential elections anyway. They want to choose VP as it is written in the constituion.

Furthermore we want to also be able to choose our own MPs, and our own communal chamber as your constituion says. And we also want you to stop using RoC constituional offices as they are your communal chamber. Why don't you start electing your own communal chamber as the constituion says, and leave the central goverment offices for joint use.

If you do not know, constituion in any country is the highest law, and everything underneath that should be in compliance with that.

Actually I am starting to believe that you are trying to make everything as simplistic as "TCs can vote in RoC "Yes or No"?" so that you can keep on further degrading your own constituion.

Can Greek Cypriots vote in the N Cyprus elections at all?

Do GCs want to be a citizen of TRNC? If they do then they should apply for it? And after they get the citizenship they should be able to vote.

Another positive side for that is that, if they become TRNC citizen then they can easily claim all their lands back as well and kick all the TC and/or settlers that currently occupy them back. Are you guys willing to do that?

[garbitsch]

I am not quite sure about this. I think, the ones who had got TRNC citizenship can vote. But the organisation of Freedom House claims that the Greek Cypriots and Maronites are defranchised. I do not know, whether this applies to the ones who acquired citizenship or not.

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hahaha...are you tell me the so called 'TRNC' would let any amount of GC back and reclaim there property, if they appled for citizenship in the north? What if ALL the refugees wanted to gain 'TRNC' citizenship and get there property back, would Turkey allow this?

[turkcyp]

I am not quite sure about this. I think, the ones who had got TRNC citizenship can vote. But the organisation of Freedom House claims that the Greek Cypriots and Maronites are defranchised. I do not know, whether this applies to the ones who acquired citizenship or not.

The GCs and Maronites are not voting because they are not TRNC citizens, they choose not to apply for citizenship. Plus 2 weeks ago, even though they are not citizens, maronites conducted thier own election in Kormacit, which immediately ROC said that that is an illegal election and the mayor they have elected has no official powers.

My mom worked in the hospital for long years. And she told me that everytime a maronite come to hospital, they used to take care of them seperatley because they did not have any social security cards nor do they have any TRNC papers. But once somebody showed up in the hospital she was being taken care of with no charge as well.

[turkcyp]

hahaha...are you tell me the so called 'TRNC' would let any amount of GC back and reclaim there property, if they appled for citizenship in the north? What if ALL the refugees wanted to gain 'TRNC' citizenship and get there property back, would Turkey allow this?

Did you apply and being denied? I heard of one lawyer (I think she is a Maronite but she may be GC too) in Kyrenia still practicing law, and going to TRNC courts as a legitimate lawyer. If she was not TRNC citizen she would not be able to do that.

IF a Brit can apply and become a citizen of TRNC and vote in north, so should a GC. I know that the law does not restrict that. In fact many Brits that used to stay in north before 1974, applied and got their TRNC citizenship.

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Again, if the GC treated Maronites so bad...why did they chose to remain in the South? Why did they LEAVE the North to come to the South? Why are there Maronites who own most of Ayia Napa and running around Cyprus in expensive cars and big mansions? Are we conducting genocide against them too?

Oh yeah, of course any unrecognised voting by the Maronites is going to be deemed unlegal...because it has not gone throught the correct procedures. Do you think if the asian community in East London all of a sudden turned round and said "We've voted for our own mayor to run Brick Lane how we want it"...you think the British government is gonna allow it.

Also, if your so concerened about the Maronites all of a sudden, how about we dont split the government 50/50 like you want....we split it 33.3% x 3. Think about it properly...do you like that? Because judging on TC, its only fair?

Sorry, but i've heard so many pseudo sounding stories to portray GC bad...that its getting hard to belive any stories that come from TC...and I know there are many stories from TC that are true...but there are so many false propaganda sounding stories, thats its gonna turn into the case of the boy who cried wolf.

[turkcyp]

Again, if the GC treated Maronites so bad...why did they chose to remain in the South? Why did they LEAVE the North to come to the South? Why are there Maronites who own most of Ayia Napa and running around Cyprus in expensive cars and big mansions? Are we conducting genocide against them too?

Oh yeah, of course any unrecognised voting by the Maronites is going to be deemed unlegal...because it has not gone throught the correct procedures. Do you think if the asian community in East London all of a sudden turned round and said "We've voted for our own mayor to run Brick Lane how we want it"...you think the British government is gonna allow it.

Also, if your so concerened about the Maronites all of a sudden, how about we dont split the government 50/50 like you want....we split it 33.3% x 3. Think about it properly...do you like that? Because judging on TC, its only fair?

Sorry, but i've heard so many pseudo sounding stories to portray GC bad...that its getting hard to belive any stories that come from TC...and I know there are many stories from TC that are true...but there are so many false propaganda sounding stories, thats its gonna turn into the case of the boy who cried wolf.

Whoa. Whoa.

What were we discussing and what are you talking about? We were discussing about if it is legal for TCs to vote in RoC. And the simple truth is under current arrangement it is not. We are kindly asking our wise GC compatriots to show us a way to exercise our 1960 constitutional rights in a fashion which is not illegal under your own constitution.

Where had I claimed that GCs had treated Maronites badly? Where have I ever said that? Unfortunately only TCs had achieved that honor of being treated badly by GCs in Cyprus, and other Muslim people like Muslim Cypriot Roma.

Get your facts back again organized and then come so we can debate. Do not jump from one subject to another. We are not discussing here the “legality of TRNC”. You just keep on asking questions and I just keep on answering them. First you have asked how it is illegal for TCs to vote in south? I have explained. Then you have asked if GCs or Maronites can vote in north? That I have explained too.

So anything else.

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We are kindly asking our wise GC compatriots to show us a way to exercise our 1960 constitutional rights in a fashion which is not illegal under your own constitution.

I dropped at the end of this thread so sorry if I missed anything.

The answer to Turkcyp is simple: End the occupation. You can't expect to control both the 36% of Cyprus just by yourselves and then share the rest of Cyprus with us, right?

[turkcyp]

I dropped at the end of this thread so sorry if I missed anything.

The answer to Turkcyp is simple: End the occupation. You can't expect to control both the 36% of Cyprus just by yourselves and then share the rest of Cyprus with us, right?

That is not my intention,

Why don't you read the topic in its entireity and you would undersand that that is not my aim.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=20