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[metecyp]

Also, when Arsenal planned a trip to Northern Cyprus about 15 years back...many of the Greek board members and staff threatend to quit the club and also pointed out they would be alienating a large amount of Arsenal fans. At the end of the day, I would not blame the Greek Cypriot people working at Arsenal for quitting and they simply gave Arsenal the information. They couldnt MAKE Arsenal cancel the tour. IT was Arsenal's choice after they found out about the history and implications more.

This is just a cheap excuse. Yes, maybe GCs couldn't officially make Arsenal cancel the tour but the agenda is clear: Whenever there's a possibility of an international event happenning in the north, bring your one-sided story on the table, scare the football/basketball/etc. club by saying that they're doing something illegal and they're upsetting the GC population, and naturally, the event gets cancelled because no club wants to take risks...

And then you come here and claim that "we just provided the information" and you want us to believe in that? You provided the information for what? For making these clubs not come to the north so TCs live in isolatation. And then you say, TCs can go to your side (as a minority) if they want...this is your idea of goodwill....

[Main_Source]

no, them going to the north means that they would officially recognise something that is illegal. Anyway, I doubt any GC made sure that Arsenal could get a TC perspective...whether they did or not, it was up to Arsenal.

[garbitsch]

If going to North is illegal, why did EU allow its citizens to go to north and even pass to South?????

[Kifeas]

If there were presidential elections in the south tomorrow then TC living there would not be allowed to vote. That is a fact as I understand it. Am I wrong?

Yes!

[erolz]

If there were presidential elections in the south tomorrow then TC living there would not be allowed to vote. That is a fact as I understand it. Am I wrong?

Yes!

So TC living in the south can vote in presidential elections? Are you sure of this because it was not my understanding.

[brother]

That is not true my father in law is a policemen on the border who has a lot of gc friends(also policemen) and i know for a fact that the tc have no voting rights or the right to claim their lands and homes.

[Kifeas]

So TC living in the south can vote in presidential elections? Are you sure of this because it was not my understanding.

A resent ruling of the ECHR has obliged the RoC to accommodate the political rights of the TC residing in the south, under the law of necessity. As you know, according to the RoC constitution, which still holds, TCs are supposed to vote on separate elections both for the parliament house and for the vice president.

After the case of Ibrahim Aziz vs Cyprus, the RoC is ordered, despite the provisions of it’s constitution, to allow voting rights to the TCs that choose to live in the south, treating them as being part of the GC community (??)

During the last European parliament elections TC in the south, as well as TC from the north were permitted to vote and run as candidates. In fact, one TC residing in the north, run as an independent candidate. Of course the case of the E.U. parliament elections is a bit different than that of President and MPs. Anyhow as from the next Parliament al elections, TCs in the south will be able to elect and be elected if they so wish.

http://cmiskp.echr.coe.int/tkp197/view.asp?item=1&portal=hbkm&action=html&highlight=aziz&sessionid=2170206&skin=hudoc-en

[garbitsch]

During the last European parliament elections TC in the south, as well as TC from the north were permitted to vote and run as candidates. In fact, one TC residing in the north, run as an independent candidate. Of course the case of the E.U. parliament elections is a bit different than that of President and MPs

Turkish Cypriots holding RoC passport can vote for EP elections even in Estonia!

[erolz]

A resent ruling of the ECHR has obliged the RoC to accommodate the political rights of the TC residing in the south, under the law of necessity. As you know, according to the RoC constitution, which still holds, TCs are supposed to vote on separate elections both for the parliament house and for the vice president.

After the case of Ibrahim Aziz vs Cyprus, the RoC is ordered, despite the provisions of it’s constitution, to allow voting rights to the TCs that choose to live in the south, treating them as being part of the GC community (??)

During the last European parliament elections TC in the south, as well as TC from the north were permitted to vote and run as candidates. In fact, one TC residing in the north, run as an independent candidate. Of course the case of the E.U. parliament elections is a bit different than that of President and MPs. Anyhow as from the next Parliament al elections, TCs in the south will be able to elect and be elected if they so wish.

Ok I was not aware of this and was under the impression that the situation was still as it was before this EU ruling (namely TC could not vote in RoC presidential elections). Thanks for the update. Whilst it does not bode well for the GC administration that they had to be forced to do this by the EU it does bode well for the argument that being in the EU protects TC and their rights as indivduals (if not as a community) in a way that is materialy different from when the RoC was not an EU memeber and I aknowledge this.

[Kifeas]

During the last European parliament elections TC in the south, as well as TC from the north were permitted to vote and run as candidates. In fact, one TC residing in the north, run as an independent candidate. Of course the case of the E.U. parliament elections is a bit different than that of President and MPs

Turkish Cypriots holding RoC passport can vote for EP elections even in Estonia!