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[Get Real!]

It is really frustrating to hear people talk about the form of the solution as if we are the only player in this issue. Some people seriously believe that we can get anything we ask, as long as we remain steadfast. This shows gross ignorance on how this world is run.

Remaining steadfast seems to work well for you and Turkey Bananiot so quit giving others bad ideas!

[Bananiot]

I think it is you and Turkey GR. It is no accident the most reactionary forces in Turkey wanted Papadopoulos to win the elections. Serdar is still crying his heart out.

[Piratis]

I think it is you and Turkey GR. It is no accident the most reactionary forces in Turkey wanted Papadopoulos to win the elections. Serdar is still crying his heart out.

But your position and Turkey's position is much closer (since you basically adopt the Turkish position). Haven't you noticed that most TCs in this forum agree with you, and even those that don't fully agree because they want a full partition, they still find you much closer to their position then they find us?

[Bananiot]

Wrong Piratis. I am here to build bridges not burn them for if we do not manage to find a common language with the progressive TC's, we are doomed. I am glad TC's feel comfortable with me. In fact, I am proud of it. There is no other way to go about it. By picking fights with them, indescriminately, like you do, you do not serve the best of interests of Cyprus. You simply alienate yourself from the vast majority of TC's and thus you cannot touch them, even if you mean the best fore them.

The worst thing that can happen to us is if we go after maximum gains again. Every time we did this we ended up in huge troubles. Yet, some people never learn. Under the circumstances BBF is the best we can hope for and the only way to end occupation. I am glad the Cypriot people in their majority now, are beginning to understand this, as the survey of the serious METRON ANALYSIS firm has shown.

[Get Real!]

Wrong Piratis. I am here to build bridges not burn them for if we do not manage to find a common language with the progressive TC's, we are doomed.

The only bridge you can ever build is a super-highway to Turkey...

[boomerang]

Wrong Piratis. I am here to build bridges not burn them for if we do not manage to find a common language with the progressive TC's, we are doomed. I am glad TC's feel comfortable with me. In fact, I am proud of it. There is no other way to go about it. By picking fights with them, indescriminately, like you do, you do not serve the best of interests of Cyprus. You simply alienate yourself from the vast majority of TC's and thus you cannot touch them, even if you mean the best fore them.

The worst thing that can happen to us is if we go after maximum gains again. Every time we did this we ended up in huge troubles. Yet, some people never learn. Under the circumstances BBF is the best we can hope for and the only way to end occupation. I am glad the Cypriot people in their majority now, are beginning to understand this, as the survey of the serious METRON ANALYSIS firm has shown.

You mean like democracy?...rule of law?...

So Bananiot, what do we stand to lose that we haven't the last 30 odd years?

[Piratis]

Wrong Piratis. I am here to build bridges not burn them for if we do not manage to find a common language with the progressive TC's, we are doomed. I am glad TC's feel comfortable with me. In fact, I am proud of it. There is no other way to go about it. By picking fights with them, indescriminately, like you do, you do not serve the best of interests of Cyprus. You simply alienate yourself from the vast majority of TC's and thus you cannot touch them, even if you mean the best fore them.

The worst thing that can happen to us is if we go after maximum gains again. Every time we did this we ended up in huge troubles. Yet, some people never learn. Under the circumstances BBF is the best we can hope for and the only way to end occupation. I am glad the Cypriot people in their majority now, are beginning to understand this, as the survey of the serious METRON ANALYSIS firm has shown.

No Bananiot, you are not building any bridges. You simply accept all the demands of the Turks. Thats why they like you. Can you tell me a single concession that the Turks have made since Papadopoulos left the goverment?

And what this "survey" showed exactly? Where are the questions asked and its results?

Of course we would accept a BBF solution that would have the right content, the right land distribution and the right power sharing. Not just anything labeled as "BBF" though, and this is something shown with the referendum which is better than any survey.

[Piratis]

Wrong Piratis. I am here to build bridges not burn them for if we do not manage to find a common language with the progressive TC's, we are doomed. I am glad TC's feel comfortable with me. In fact, I am proud of it. There is no other way to go about it. By picking fights with them, indescriminately, like you do, you do not serve the best of interests of Cyprus. You simply alienate yourself from the vast majority of TC's and thus you cannot touch them, even if you mean the best fore them.

The worst thing that can happen to us is if we go after maximum gains again. Every time we did this we ended up in huge troubles. Yet, some people never learn. Under the circumstances BBF is the best we can hope for and the only way to end occupation. I am glad the Cypriot people in their majority now, are beginning to understand this, as the survey of the serious METRON ANALYSIS firm has shown.

You mean like democracy?...rule of law?...

So Bananiot, what do we stand to lose that we haven't the last 30 odd years?

For Bananiot things that are basic in all other civilized countries, like democracy and human rights, are considered "maximum gains". Bananiot is the perfect slave. If all oppressed people here like him then there would be no revolts, no people fighting for what is right and just (even against the odds) and we would still be living in the middle ages.

[boomerang]

In one instance Bananiot calls everyone a Cypriot, and in the other wants a solution classifying everyone as a turk this and greek that...

The real question that should be asked in a survey Bananiot, is do the people of Cyprus wanna be bitches to the motherlands?

This way atleast we will know how many confused puppies are out there...

[Kikapu]

Kikapu, I am sorry if I let you down. I have been extremely busy of late and perhaps I missed some of your posts.

Thanks Bananiot. I don't feel "rejected" anymore.!!

The "virgin birth" issue is not important in my opinion. Kasoulides has claimed on this issue that it was the Greek Cypriot side that created the issue of virgin birth in the first place in 2004.

Well, it seems like you are in luck Bananiot, because the RoC does not support the "virgin birth" concept or Confederacy either in the present peace talks. BBF to them means a True Federation. See below.

The government made it clear on Thursday there would no virgin birth and no confederation, only the continuation of the Cyprus Republic in the framework of a bizonal, bicommunal federation with one single international personality, sovereignty and citizenship.

But unfortunately, a BBF United Cyprus to the "TRNC" means totally something else.

The Turkish side, however, does not want a united Cyprus to grow out of the existing Republic of Cyprus, and keeps referring to two states, two populations and two democracies

How does anyone draw the word UNITED from the above statement, is beyond me. So yes, everyone in the International community supports BBF, a bizonal, bicommunal federation and not "BBC", which is a bizonal, bicommunal confederation.

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