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Are you an "Acceptionist" or a "Rejectionist

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Do you accept or reject the things below as the basis for a "solution"?

I accept them
3
17%
I reject them
15
83%
 
Total votes : 18

Are you an "Acceptionist" or a "Rejectionist

Postby Piratis » Tue May 27, 2008 10:13 am

Do you accept or reject human rights violations?

Do you accept or reject segregation?

Do you accept or reject racist discriminations?

Do you accept or reject ethnic cleansing?

Do you accept or reject foreign troops in Cyprus?

Most TCs are "acceptionists" with the exception of few like Kikapu and Bir. Some TCs of course are even more "acceptionists" and they would like to add even more "nice" ingredients in what they call a "solution" to the Cyprus problem. We don't blame them for being acceptionists. If they are offered land and power on the loss of the human and democratic rights of others then why should they reject such a good for them offer? What would stop them? Their conscience?

Most GCs reject such inhuman, criminal, and racist provisions to be the basis of some so called "solution". But some of them like Bananiot, EDI, and a few others are shameless acceptionists even if all the above crimes are committed against members of their own community!
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Re: Are you an "Acceptionist" or a "Rejectio

Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 27, 2008 10:25 am

Piratis wrote:Do you accept or reject human rights violations?

Do you accept or reject segregation?

Do you accept or reject racist discriminations?

Do you accept or reject ethnic cleansing?

Do you accept or reject foreign troops in Cyprus?

Most TCs are "acceptionists" with the exception of few like Kikapu and Bir. Some TCs of course are even more "acceptionists" and they would like to add even more "nice" ingredients in what they call a "solution" to the Cyprus problem. We don't blame them for being acceptionists. If they are offered land and power on the loss of the human and democratic rights of others then why should they reject such a good for them offer? What would stop them? Their conscience?

Most GCs reject such inhuman, criminal, and racist provisions to be the basis of some so called "solution". But some of them like Bananiot, EDI, and a few others are shameless acceptionists even if all the above crimes are committed against members of their own community!


Why werent they rejecting them from 1963 to 1974?
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Re: Are you an "Acceptionist" or a "Rejectio

Postby Piratis » Tue May 27, 2008 10:31 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:Do you accept or reject human rights violations?

Do you accept or reject segregation?

Do you accept or reject racist discriminations?

Do you accept or reject ethnic cleansing?

Do you accept or reject foreign troops in Cyprus?

Most TCs are "acceptionists" with the exception of few like Kikapu and Bir. Some TCs of course are even more "acceptionists" and they would like to add even more "nice" ingredients in what they call a "solution" to the Cyprus problem. We don't blame them for being acceptionists. If they are offered land and power on the loss of the human and democratic rights of others then why should they reject such a good for them offer? What would stop them? Their conscience?

Most GCs reject such inhuman, criminal, and racist provisions to be the basis of some so called "solution". But some of them like Bananiot, EDI, and a few others are shameless acceptionists even if all the above crimes are committed against members of their own community!


Why werent they rejecting them from 1963 to 1974?


They did. It has always been the TCs who wanted segregation and racist discriminations. Have you ever accepted that Cypriots will not divided based on their ehtnic background, but instead all Cypriots to be equal citizens without segregation and racist discriminations?
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Re: Are you an "Acceptionist" or a "Rejectio

Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 27, 2008 10:36 am

Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:Do you accept or reject human rights violations?

Do you accept or reject segregation?

Do you accept or reject racist discriminations?

Do you accept or reject ethnic cleansing?

Do you accept or reject foreign troops in Cyprus?

Most TCs are "acceptionists" with the exception of few like Kikapu and Bir. Some TCs of course are even more "acceptionists" and they would like to add even more "nice" ingredients in what they call a "solution" to the Cyprus problem. We don't blame them for being acceptionists. If they are offered land and power on the loss of the human and democratic rights of others then why should they reject such a good for them offer? What would stop them? Their conscience?

Most GCs reject such inhuman, criminal, and racist provisions to be the basis of some so called "solution". But some of them like Bananiot, EDI, and a few others are shameless acceptionists even if all the above crimes are committed against members of their own community!


Why werent they rejecting them from 1963 to 1974?


They did. It has always been the TCs who wanted segregation and racist discriminations. Have you ever accepted that Cypriots will not divided based on their ehtnic background, but instead all Cypriots to be equal citizens without segregation and racist discriminations?


tut tut, is that why when my grandfather wanted to business he had to have a GC partner? or we were not allowed to swim at certain beaches? or are segregated at the crossing at Ledra?
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 27, 2008 10:44 am

Mate, the segregation is somehting that you choose and somehting that you still want. Taksim (partition) was your aim since the 50s and continues to be until today. During the conflict GCs were not allowed to pass from the TC controlled areas either. But this segregations and discrimination was not our choice, it was yours, and it is you (along with the British) who insisted that such elements should be part of the constidution.

I hope now you learned that segregation and racist discriminations can not solve anything, but on the contrary they create more problems. Of course, since lots of gains on our loss are again offered to you by the Turks and AngloAmericans, I really don't blame you for accepting them. What I can't understand is how some Bananiots or our side can accept such racist and criminal provisions.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 27, 2008 10:51 am

Piratis wrote:Mate, the segregation is somehting that you choose and somehting that you still want. Taksim (partition) was your aim since the 50s and continues to be until today. During the conflict GCs were not allowed to pass from the TC controlled areas either. But this segregations and discrimination was not our choice, it was yours, and it is you (along with the British) who insisted that such elements should be part of the constidution.

I hope now you learned that segregation and racist discriminations can not solve anything, but on the contrary they create more problems. Of course, since lots of gains on our loss are again offered to you by the Turks and AngloAmericans, I really don't blame you for accepting them. What I can't understand is how some Bananiots or our side can accept such racist and criminal provisions.


Your not answering the questions as the 1960s constitution did not incorporate any of the following they were and are GC doings,

Why did my grandfather have to find a GC partner when trying to set up business?

Why were we not allowed or made welcome on certain beaches?

Why today do you have to have sign at Ledra palace segregating TCs like cattle into a row?
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 27, 2008 1:21 pm

I no longer believe anything Viewpoint says on the forum as he never provides evidence, but merely a constant stream of made up personal "scenarios" ... which I notice already he is starting to modify from his initial accusations, having been rebuked with the facts by Piratis.

It always comes back to the same thing, Viewpoint makes accusations happy to cause their harm to GCs for as long as possible ... Then we found out all the negative things he attributed to the GCs were a direct result and an end product of the unfair power distributions and segregation clauses the British imposed on Cyprus, which were endorsed by Turk-TCs.

No amount of moaning about how things might have been can bare any influence on the realisation that we are nearer to removing the Turks, their influence, their supporters and return to a re-united fair and Democratic whole Cyprus.

Any past problems were through undue influence from our two main invaders the Turks and the Brits ... and when we finally receive what we have been struggling for, independence, then we can restore the human rights denied the 200,000 GCs, ethnically cleansed from their homes of many generations because VP claims he was not welcome on a beach in the '60s .... :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 27, 2008 3:12 pm

Oracle wrote:I no longer believe anything Viewpoint says on the forum as he never provides evidence, but merely a constant stream of made up personal "scenarios" ... which I notice already he is starting to modify from his initial accusations, having been rebuked with the facts by Piratis.

It always comes back to the same thing, Viewpoint makes accusations happy to cause their harm to GCs for as long as possible ... Then we found out all the negative things he attributed to the GCs were a direct result and an end product of the unfair power distributions and segregation clauses the British imposed on Cyprus, which were endorsed by Turk-TCs.

No amount of moaning about how things might have been can bare any influence on the realisation that we are nearer to removing the Turks, their influence, their supporters and return to a re-united fair and Democratic whole Cyprus.

Any past problems were through undue influence from our two main invaders the Turks and the Brits ... and when we finally receive what we have been struggling for, independence, then we can restore the human rights denied the 200,000 GCs, ethnically cleansed from their homes of many generations because VP claims he was not welcome on a beach in the '60s .... :roll:



Does everyone notice how this person puts the blame on everyone else, never addresses the questions and tries to come out as Mother Teressa, tell that to the families of those buried alive at the hands of your freedom fighters.
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Postby CopperLine » Tue May 27, 2008 4:19 pm

What kind of poll is this Piratis ?

GCSE students let alone first year sociology students are taught not to compose poll questions like this. The questions are leading; the questions would fail any validity test; the responses are meaningless; anyone responding as an 'acceptionist' is simply a 'spoiler'.


When will you ask when we're going to stop beating our wives/husbands ?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Tue May 27, 2008 5:32 pm

...in the USA niggers are still niggers, hanging from trees, and rotting, dead in swamps.

i imagine things never change, according to vp.

we cannot make change, not according to King (and others) either.

submission to the way things are, is our only solution.
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