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Are you an "Acceptionist" or a "Rejectionist

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Do you accept or reject the things below as the basis for a "solution"?

I accept them
3
17%
I reject them
15
83%
 
Total votes : 18

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:14 pm

Muzzy70 wrote:Oh yes, let's have another 24 hours to massacre Turkish villagers ! The fact of the matter is that had your 'government' of complete GC's accepted the Turkish proposals then we'd all be in a very different position today. I recommend that you read '30 Hot Days' by Mehmet Ali Birand. Even the genocidal priest Maka thought it was a good book ! :wink:

Putting all the stories aside, all one has to do to evaluate the 1963..67 inter-communal conflict is to look at the final number of TC victims Vs the number of GC victims and you’ll have a good picture of what REALLY happened.

Statistics NEVER fail to paint the TRUE picture of events…

Cyprus (1955-59)
o WPA3
 UK: 142
 Turkish Cypriots: 84
 Greek Cypriots: 278
o B&J: 100 UK + 500 Cypriots
o 11 Nov. 2000 Times [London]: 100 British soldiers

Cyprus (1963-67)
o B&J: 1,000
o

Cyprus (1974)
o Clodfelter: 4,500-6,000 Greeks mil/civ k + 2,000-3,000 missing/presumed d. + 300 Turkish mil. k. [= 6,800-9,300]
o Eckhardt: 3,000 civ. + 2,000 mil. = 5,000 (1975-85)
o B&J: 5,000 (1974-78)
o John J. Mearsheimer (Aug. 1990 Atlantic Monthly): 1,500 to 5,000
o Singer:
1. Turkey: 1000
2. Cyprus: 500
o WHPSI: 917 deaths from political violence, 1974

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatx.htm#c
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:18 pm

CanDiaz wrote:Ok i see it now, sorry.Rather confusing all this GC, TC, Turk, Greek, Roman, Crusader knight, Lusignan etc.

Yeah, don’t forget the Janissaries... :lol:
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Postby CanDiaz » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:
CanDiaz wrote:Ok i see it now, sorry.Rather confusing all this GC, TC, Turk, Greek, Roman, Crusader knight, Lusignan etc.

Yeah, don’t forget the Janissaries... :lol:


:google's Janissaries:


:lol:
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:34 pm

CanDiaz wrote:
Piratis wrote:Muzzy, in 1974 (like always) it is the Turks who started the killing of Cypriots, we only responded. I like it how you always start the conflict, kill 1000s, and then you want to also present yourselves as the victims because in the war which you started you had a couple of 100s of casualties :roll:

Don't you say the same for the Armenians as well? That you killed 1.5 million of them, but it was their fault. And when you bomb Kurdish villages killing people indiscriminately by the 1000s you are again the victims somehow.

The Turks have always been the aggressors my friend. If Turks were not aggressors there wouldn't be any turks on this island in the first place, and if Turks had stopped being aggressors at some point then that would be the point we would have peace.


I'm just curious, if 1000's of gc's were killed by just 18%(obviously not all of the 18% are young males capable of being in a "terrorist" organisation.So it must be a lot less than the 18%) Then what the hell was the rest of the GC population doing?Watching?
This is where the Cyprus story makes no sense to me, when your outnumbered 5-1, you don't start fights, unless your Jet Li of course.


The 1000s of GCs were killed in 1974, and 10s of thousands were killed during the Turkish rule of Cyprus which lasted until 1878.

During the inter communal conflict both sides had a few 100s of casualties.
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