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[MicAtCyp]

If you want to have a say in what happens in the North of Cyprus you need to _agree_ a solution with us.

You don't understand Erol. We already have a say. Because we put ALL CYPRUS in the EU.Like it or not this is why we issue arrest warrants against criminals who exploit our properties. And as the time passes that say will be more direct through your Mama of course.

And that is why you are getting EU aid etc etc...

[salonica]

I beleive the point here is that the status of the north has not been changed.

One should always have in mind that as long as the status of the pseudostate remains, all developments on any aspects are subject to critisism and counter-action. Maybe not today, but soon enough.

[uzan]

[quote="Piratis"]What can take 5 years to be build it needs 1 minute to be demolished with some well placed dynamite. In the long run, those that will loose are those that invested in something that will not last.

Now the crime is committed. Sooner or later the punishment will come for the criminals.[/quote
Piratis,when are you going to stop talking to us like that,killing ,shooting and now dynamite.Yes you are righ,sooner or later the punishment will come for criminals,we have been waiting 42 years I believe it will come oneday.

[-mikkie2-]

Might as well be talking about the weather again!

Nice in Cyprus at the moment? I will be there soon. Hope it will be nice!

[erolz]

You don't understand Erol. We already have a say. Because we put ALL CYPRUS in the EU.Like it or not this is why we issue arrest warrants against criminals who exploit our properties. And as the time passes that say will be more direct through your Mama of course.

And that is why you are getting EU aid etc etc...

EU law (the aquis) is SUSPENDED in the north of Cyprus pending a settlement. The EU knows it can not impose and enforce laws in a area it does not control, becasue the EU does not live in cloud cuckoo land.

You can write the laws for the land you _control_. You can seek to have arrest warrants enforced against EU citizens that break your laws in the area you control. The idea that the EU enforce warrants for offences in areas you do not control is more dreaming from GC - as is the idea that UK courts will enforce judgments made by GC about areas they do not control.

The EU has handed over not a single person for breaking your law on entering Cyprus through the north - not before EU accession or after. In fact they forced you to not even make such prosecutions yourself even if the offender is in the RoC. You can continue to dream that the EU will help you enforce laws on areas not in your control but the simple fact is they will not.

[magikthrill]

When will punishment come for the criminals that took my uncle from his place of work and murdered them, or the criminals that killed other TC, drove them from their homes and stole their land and posessions? Will their punishment come sooner or later?

Erol,

It is called inter communal violence for a reason. Because both sides were killing each other. I am positive you are intelligent enough to understand this.

[Viewpoint]

magikthrill

It is called inter communal violence for a reason. Because both sides were killing each other. I am positive you are intelligent enough to understand this.

So that makes everything OK, have some compassion for gods sake your talking about someones life not a piece of land.

[MicAtCyp]

Well Erol the way I see it is that the EU Aquis is NOT totally suspended in the Occupied areas, and our court decisions about what happened to the area which we do not have control are not totally ignored. Thats my point. And slowly slowly this will be extended through Turkeys accession negotiations...
Full enforvement will of course come with a solution but if you think the solution will LEGALISE whatever illegal is happening now at the occupied areas you are dreaming. The best you can expect is a no solution for a period of 10-15 years. Then what?

[erolz]

Erol,

It is called inter communal violence for a reason. Because both sides were killing each other. I am positive you are intelligent enough to understand this.

Yes both sides were killing each other. However one side was numericaly larger, had sole control of the forces of the state and had a written down plan to illegaly steal the rights of the TC community they had agreed to only three years earlier.

How easily you accept equality of the communites in Cyprus when it comes to blame for violence - even though the violence was massively unequal, yet resist the notion of equality when it comes to the rights of the communites. We can have equal blame as a community for all the bad things that occured but not equality when it comes to poltical representation of the communites.

Anyway my point was - if as Piratis claims, justice will sooner or later be served on the guilty, why should this apply to events after 74 but not to events before 74 - be they comitted by GC or TC. What Piratis really means is where the TC / Turkey have comitted acts against GC community justice wil eventualy be served but where it was acts by GC against TC community justice will continue to be ignored - as it was from 63-74. This isjust more 'cloud coockoo land' thinking.

[Piratis]

The Turkish and Ottoman criminals had caused suffering on GCs for centuries in the past, for decades in the recent history (and they continue today by illegally occupying Cyprus). And then they have the nerve to complain about 1-2 decades. Those 1-2 decades are absolutely nothing compared with what you did to us. However it seems you have a VERY selective memory.