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[Bananiot]

Just before the 2004 referendum, Christofias promised that AKEL would vote "no" in order to cement a "yes" vote from the Greek Cypriot community after the Annan Plan is modified in a minor way.

After last week's meeting between Christofias and Talat, the rejectionists of both sides have started beating their drums. Perdev, Denktash and the Grey wolves have formed a holy alliance with Papadopoulos, Perdikis, Omirou and Sillouris. Their mission is to destroy whatever chances we have to find a solution.

Christofias seems to be consistent with what he was saying back then. Luckily for all solution seeking Cypriots, the leader of DISI, Nikos Anastasiades, has sided firmly with the President and things are beginning to look bright.

[Oracle]

Just before the 2004 referendum, Christofias promised that AKEL would vote "no" in order to cement a "yes" vote from the Greek Cypriot community after the Annan Plan is modified in a minor way.

After last week's meeting between Christofias and Talat, the rejectionists of both sides have started beating their drums. Perdev, Denktash and the Grey wolves have formed a holy alliance with Papadopoulos, Perdikis, Omirou and Sillouris. Their mission is to destroy whatever chances we have to find a solution.

Christofias seems to be consistent with what he was saying back then. Luckily for all solution seeking Cypriots, the leader of DISI, Nikos Anastasiades, has sided firmly with the President and things are beginning to look bright.

Can we distinguish between fact and fable in this account please before we get dragged into unnecessary conflict.

Please clarify:

(1). "holy alliance"
(2). mission to destroy chances of a solution

Are they your interpretation of events, or have Agreements been signed to that effect?

[Viewpoint]

Christofiyas is a breath of fresh in comparison to the previous leaders and I hope he stirs things up for our side, taking the bold decisions that will make the TCs sit up and take notice, forcing the hand of all concerned, well done.

[Piratis]

Just before the 2004 referendum, Christofias promised that AKEL would vote "no" in order to cement a "yes" vote from the Greek Cypriot community after the Annan Plan is modified in a minor way.

Christofias never said that he would say "yes" if the Annan plan was modified in a minor way.

On the contrary, when he asked for the Cypriot people to elect him as president in 2008 (not 2004), he promised that he will not allow anything like the Annan plan to return. That is the promise that he gave to the Cypriot people in order to be elected.

[Viewpoint]

Just before the 2004 referendum, Christofias promised that AKEL would vote "no" in order to cement a "yes" vote from the Greek Cypriot community after the Annan Plan is modified in a minor way.

Christofias never said that he would say "yes" if the Annan plan was modified in a minor way.

On the contrary, when he asked for the Cypriot people to elect him as president in 2008 (not 2004), he promised that he will not allow anything like the Annan plan to return. That is the promise that he gave to the Cypriot people in order to be elected.

Piratis you have to accept he is making the right noises for the TCs to feel comfortable enough to make concessions towards a solution. Your hard line approach will not bear fruit and you will continue to perpetuate mistrust and fear in taking any steps forward.

[Kikapu]

Just before the 2004 referendum, Christofias promised that AKEL would vote "no" in order to cement a "yes" vote from the Greek Cypriot community after the Annan Plan is modified in a minor way.

Christofias never said that he would say "yes" if the Annan plan was modified in a minor way.

On the contrary, when he asked for the Cypriot people to elect him as president in 2008 (not 2004), he promised that he will not allow anything like the Annan plan to return. That is the promise that he gave to the Cypriot people in order to be elected.

Piratis,

What happens to any elected officials in the RoC if they go back on their promises made before elections to seek office, but once in office, they go back on their promises.

In the states, some officials, like Governors can be recalled in a special election to be replaced as a non confidence measure. That's how Arnold Schwarzenegger became Governor of California, after a sitting Governor (Davis) was removed by the voters.

[Piratis]

Piratis,

What happens to any elected officials in the RoC if they go back on their promises made before elections to seek office, but once in office, they go back on their promises.

In the states, some officials, like Governors can be recalled in a special election to be replaced as a non confidence measure. That's how Arnold Schwarzenegger became Governor of California, after a sitting Governor (Davis) was removed by the voters.

Unfortunately in Cyprus we don't have such thing.

However this is a critical issue and cheating the Cypriot people on it is a very serious offense. I hope Christofias will not do such thing, but if he does then I think the next step would be to conduct surveys, and if the results of those surveys show that the majority of the Cypriot do not support the moves that Christofias is making then to ask for a GC only referendum and let the people decide in a democratic and direct way as they did in 2004.

Here I have to remind Bananiot that in the elections we had a candidate who supported the Annan plan with only minor changes to it. That candidate was Themistocleous, not Christofias, and he received less than 1% of the votes.

[Kikapu]

Well, we can't remove Bush either for taking us to 2 wars with death and destruction, lost treasure and ruined economy, simple not enough votes to impeach him on.

Now, only if he gotten a Blow Job from an intern and was exposed, we could have made some headway in the right direction.!!

[halil]

Piratis,

What happens to any elected officials in the RoC if they go back on their promises made before elections to seek office, but once in office, they go back on their promises.

In the states, some officials, like Governors can be recalled in a special election to be replaced as a non confidence measure. That's how Arnold Schwarzenegger became Governor of California, after a sitting Governor (Davis) was removed by the voters.

Unfortunately in Cyprus we don't have such thing.

However this is a critical issue and cheating the Cypriot people on it is a very serious offense. I hope Christofias will not do such thing, but if he does then I think the next step would be to conduct surveys, and if the results of those surveys show that the majority of the Cypriot do not support the moves that Christofias is making then to ask for a GC only referendum and let the people decide in a democratic and direct way as they did in 2004.

Here I have to remind Bananiot that in the elections we had a candidate who supported the Annan plan with only minor changes to it. That candidate was Themistocleous, not Christofias, and he received less than 1% of the votes.

İzzet İzcan and his party received less than 0.1 % of votes at north . does not mean people are not supporting his party views . above argument is not valid . important is what the people are thinking now and how the leadership in south is going to direct her people and how there doing to achive the peace process.

[Kikapu]

Piratis,

What happens to any elected officials in the RoC if they go back on their promises made before elections to seek office, but once in office, they go back on their promises.

In the states, some officials, like Governors can be recalled in a special election to be replaced as a non confidence measure. That's how Arnold Schwarzenegger became Governor of California, after a sitting Governor (Davis) was removed by the voters.

Unfortunately in Cyprus we don't have such thing.

However this is a critical issue and cheating the Cypriot people on it is a very serious offense. I hope Christofias will not do such thing, but if he does then I think the next step would be to conduct surveys, and if the results of those surveys show that the majority of the Cypriot do not support the moves that Christofias is making then to ask for a GC only referendum and let the people decide in a democratic and direct way as they did in 2004.

Here I have to remind Bananiot that in the elections we had a candidate who supported the Annan plan with only minor changes to it. That candidate was Themistocleous, not Christofias, and he received less than 1% of the votes.

İzzet İzcan and his party received less than 0.1 % of votes at north . does not mean people are not supporting his party views . above argument is not valid . important is what the people are thinking now and how the leadership in south is going to direct her people and how there doing to achive the peace process.

Halil,

0.1% of true TC's of 120,000 in the north, is only 120 persons, so it is safe to say, that people are not supporting Izzet Izcan's views as of the last elections in the north few years ago. The elections in the RoC only happened few months ago, so I doubt if the opinions of many GC's have since changed.