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Postby Gabira » Fri May 30, 2008 6:59 am

Get Real! wrote:My favorite definition of a “Cypriot” is that of Miltiades who thinks that a “Cypriot” is someone who left permanently for England in 1947, came back to Cyprus for the first time about 20 years later when he saved up enough money, and then repeated the holiday every few years thereafter, each time arriving in his white socks and sandals, carrying a worn out black little wallet with enough pound sterling to buy 5 crates of KEO, and walking around like a complete nincompoop in a pair of shorts while its 25 degrees, looking up high at the now taller skyline and wondering what changed, while at the same time reminiscing about the good old days when he was ten in some little village and got clapped around the ear-hole for climbing up a tree… :roll:


:lol: :lol: :lol: I can just picture such a common sight.

So is Miltz a Brit or a "Cypriot" ? :lol

Technically speaking, can the diaspora still be accepted as being Cypriot ? I must say that they have retained alot of the old culture compared to "Cypriots" on our Island.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri May 30, 2008 7:01 am

On a serious note...

It may come as a total shock to some people but not all Cypriots had anything to do with Hellenes, Ottomans, Venetians, Lusignans, Romans, Byzantines, or any other foreigner. There are Cypriots among us who are bound to originate from the very first Cypriots to have set foot on this island but of course we can never verify this just as we can NEVER denounce it, so those who claim that there’s no such thing as “Cypriots” are in fact just speculating and being MOST DISRESPECTFUL to those that may be.

Another common mistake is for people to try and define “Cypriot” by only looking at the contemporary “view window” which at best will only include THEIR lifetime. Of course, every generation is nothing but a microscopic speck of the history of Cyprus so it is hardly a worthy sample of what “Cypriot” really represents.

Finally, don't tax your brain too much over this issue because by the time you figure it out your life will be over and your conclusion of what "Cypriot" really is will no longer be valid... :?
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Postby Oracle » Fri May 30, 2008 7:26 am

Gabira wrote:A Cypriot can only be what ever GR or Oracle defines it as :lol: :lol: :lol:

A better question would be to define a GC and TC independently then just for the fun of it compare any similarities, if any ;)

"Cypriotness" has many diverse and colourful characteristics influenced by many civilisations from the Romans, Hellenes, Ottomans, British, etc. A combination and acceptance of these cultures which moulds "us" is what I suppose some would call a "Cypriot".

In another generation or two you will be able to accept the "settlers" as Cypriots too and love them like one of your own :lol:


Even the Turks have never "accepted" the Anatolian settlers they are ethnically cleansing... :wink: And I doubt the TCs will treat them any differently :lol:

Gabira (aka Eliza Doolittle :wink: ) reminds me of a social climbing aspirant who has a chip on her shoulder about her lowly Turkish origins ... and thinks by wrapping herself up in "blue and white" she can mix with civilised people ...

She'll be worshiping at the temple of Apollo soon 8)

Denial, re-invention and historical revisionism are the Turk's best friend.

At heart always a Mongolian .... but on the surface, whatever nation they are trying to bring down .... :roll:
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Postby Gabira » Fri May 30, 2008 7:29 am

Get Real! wrote:Finally, don't tax your brain too much over this issue because by the time you figure it out your life will be over and your conclusion of what "Cypriot" really is will no longer be valid... :?


:lol: :lol: :lol: Coming from the champion of brain taxers.

Perhaps you had better have a little whisper into your other half Oracle's ear about those "nasty Turkish memes" before his brain is over taxed :lol:

It is generally GC's who are challenging TC's "Cypriotness" because of their non allegiance to the "ROC" (Greek admin/agenda).
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Postby Get Real! » Fri May 30, 2008 7:36 am

Gabira wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Finally, don't tax your brain too much over this issue because by the time you figure it out your life will be over and your conclusion of what "Cypriot" really is will no longer be valid... :?


:lol: :lol: :lol: Coming from the champion of brain taxers.

Perhaps you had better have a little whisper into your other half Oracle's ear about those "nasty Turkish memes" before his brain is over taxed :lol:

It is generally GC's who are challenging TC's "Cypriotness" because of their non allegiance to the "ROC" (Greek admin/agenda).

Taking that line away from its previous two paragraphs makes it subject to abuse as you have demonstrated here...
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Postby Oracle » Fri May 30, 2008 7:46 am

Gabira wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: Coming from the champion of brain taxers.
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... and this is where Gabira's lack of comprehension of English terminology once again lets her down ... :lol: :lol:

Complimenting GR! ...

You are a good Eliza Doolittle :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 30, 2008 8:36 am

Get Real! wrote:My favorite definition of a “Cypriot” is that of Miltiades who thinks that a “Cypriot” is someone who left permanently for England in 1947, came back to Cyprus for the first time about 20 years later when he saved up enough money, and then repeated the holiday every few years thereafter, each time arriving in his white socks and sandals, carrying a worn out black little wallet with enough pound sterling to buy 5 crates of KEO, and walking around like a complete nincompoop in a pair of shorts while its 25 degrees, looking up high at the now taller skyline and wondering what changed, while at the same time reminiscing about the good old days when he was ten in some little village and got clapped around the ear-hole for climbing up a tree… :roll:



....but Milti was a victim of the Paphian earthquake in 1954/5.
Please get your facts right GR. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Fri May 30, 2008 9:30 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:My favorite definition of a “Cypriot” is that of Miltiades who thinks that a “Cypriot” is someone who left permanently for England in 1947, came back to Cyprus for the first time about 20 years later when he saved up enough money, and then repeated the holiday every few years thereafter, each time arriving in his white socks and sandals, carrying a worn out black little wallet with enough pound sterling to buy 5 crates of KEO, and walking around like a complete nincompoop in a pair of shorts while its 25 degrees, looking up high at the now taller skyline and wondering what changed, while at the same time reminiscing about the good old days when he was ten in some little village and got clapped around the ear-hole for climbing up a tree… :roll:



....but Milti was a victim of the Paphian earthquake in 1954/5.
Please get your facts right GR. :lol: :lol:


That was a truly devastating disaster :(

I read up about it because of Miltiades. His whole village was ruined, so many died (including his mum :( ) ... and then they re-built a new Stroumbi ... now I think the two parts of the village are merged through expansion.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 30, 2008 9:35 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:My favorite definition of a “Cypriot” is that of Miltiades who thinks that a “Cypriot” is someone who left permanently for England in 1947, came back to Cyprus for the first time about 20 years later when he saved up enough money, and then repeated the holiday every few years thereafter, each time arriving in his white socks and sandals, carrying a worn out black little wallet with enough pound sterling to buy 5 crates of KEO, and walking around like a complete nincompoop in a pair of shorts while its 25 degrees, looking up high at the now taller skyline and wondering what changed, while at the same time reminiscing about the good old days when he was ten in some little village and got clapped around the ear-hole for climbing up a tree… :roll:



....but Milti was a victim of the Paphian earthquake in 1954/5.
Please get your facts right GR. :lol: :lol:


That was a truly devastating disaster :(

I read up about it because of Miltiades. His whole village was ruined, so many died (including his mum :( ) ... and then they re-built a new Stroumbi ... now I think the two parts of the village are merged through expansion.



Those who lived at that time remember well. I was on my holidays in Kivisili. We felt the tremor, but what was amazing was the dust is suspension in the air. It was a few days later we heard of the loss of life.
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