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[humanist]

Nikitas, I have often thought of returning home to Cyprus but honestly when I hear of what people experience in trying to get a job I get scared and think you know what Cyprus is good for a visit every few years and laugh it off.

[Get Real!]

Concept of partition (Mahatma Gandhi)

As a rule, Gandhi was opposed to the concept of partition as it contradicted his vision of religious unity of the partition of India to create Pakistan, he wrote in Harijan on 6 October 1946:

“[The demand for Pakistan] as put forth by the Moslem League is un-Islamic and I have not hesitated to call it sinful. Islam stands for unity and the brotherhood of mankind, not for disrupting the oneness of the human family. Therefore, those who want to divide India into possibly warring groups are enemies alike of India and Islam. They may cut me into pieces but they cannot make me subscribe to something which I consider to be wrong [...] we must not cease to aspire, in spite of [the] wild talk, to befriend all Moslems and hold them fast as prisoners of our love.”

[Nikitas]

Andrea,

Cyprus, like Greece, is a good place to have a business which earns its profits from overseas- ie export company, web based business, shipping etc. Then you have the benefits without building dependencies on the local cliques. It is no accident that the richest people in both countries are those involved with shipping. It is a business out of the grasp of the locals.

[humanist]

yes indeed there is a large volume of trade and thus financial wealth, unimaginable to locals as you put it. In many respects it is unimaginable to me also. I am not sure when one says I have enough, Thank God

[CBBB]

Getting back to settlers, what about our pontian ones in the south?

Are we going tp pay them to go away too?

Never mind all the Brit's, Russians, Lebanese, etc..

[DT.]

Getting back to settlers, what about our pontian ones in the south?

Are we going tp pay them to go away too?

Never mind all the Brit's, Russians, Lebanese, etc..

no need to pay them. If they are EU citizens they stay. If any of them are not we'll boot them out for you. Whats the point of having the pontians around if there is a solution. We'll have you CBBB to take over as cheap labour

[Nikitas]

Settlers are people brough in illegally in the form of colonisers who occupy land belonging to others without any permission or even passive consent by the owners. Pontians and othr migrants are a different case, they entered legally, remain legally and have not displaced any indigenous people or usurped property.

But in the event of a solution, circumstance will most likely force many of the legal migrants out too. As GCs and TCs form closer business ties it is clear that employment opportunities for foreigners will diminish, at least in the start. Perhaps if Famagusta comes on line as major project there might be demand for labor and therefore a need for migrant workers. That remains to be seen.

[Get Real!]

The Turkish Cypriots are salivating in anticipation for this so called Bizonal Bicommunal “Federation” with its clearly defined Turkish Cypriot zone, because 2-3 years later if not earlier, the Turkish Cypriots can then run a referendum within their zone as they see fit and declare…“Sorry guys, we’ve just had a democratic referendum and decided we’re no longer interested in this federation!” …and just declare an independent TC state with Turkey as a guarantor… and why not?

…and then GR will turn around and reward the Greek Cypriot community with exactly what it would’ve earned…

[turkkan]

Concept of partition (Mahatma Gandhi)

As a rule, Gandhi was opposed to the concept of partition as it contradicted his vision of religious unity of the partition of India to create Pakistan, he wrote in Harijan on 6 October 1946:

“[The demand for Pakistan] as put forth by the Moslem League is un-Islamic and I have not hesitated to call it sinful. Islam stands for unity and the brotherhood of mankind, not for disrupting the oneness of the human family. Therefore, those who want to divide India into possibly warring groups are enemies alike of India and Islam. They may cut me into pieces but they cannot make me subscribe to something which I consider to be wrong [...] we must not cease to aspire, in spite of [the] wild talk, to befriend all Moslems and hold them fast as prisoners of our love.”

What is this supposed to prove? The best thing that has happened to India in the scheme of things was for its muslim population to have separated despite the bloodshed that it caused during the process. There are a 100 million muslims now living in India and there is a lot of friction there with riots erupting every few years in which hundreds of people are killed in a brutal manner. And this is Indias trouble with its muslim population, and im not mentioning the numerous ethnic groups within that country who want a different political system or independance. Kashmir is always under a constant state of emergency, if India had to deal with its original muslim population it would not be doing anywhere near as good as its doing now.

Eitherway, the contrast is pointless as cyprus and india are very different countries with very different pasts and attitudes.

[Oracle]

There are some Turks around, posting as though they had some rights to Cyprus ... you do not!

If you want a separate Muslim state ... go found one, in wherever, you originate from!