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[unitedwestand]

Asked by reporters about the agreement to look at opening new crossing points, given that in his five-year term he was not even able to open Ledra Street, Papadopoulos said: “At least then we knew whose fault it was.”
He said the status of part of the crossing, which had been a bone of contention during his term, had still not be clarified, despite the opening last month.

Christofias responded tersely to Papadopoulos late on Friday saying: The notion of a partnership [between the two communities] existed since 1960, even if some people never want to admit this. And this has already caused untold harm to this country.”

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The above is irrefutable evidence that it was Papadopulos that was the problem all along. In all my years its the first time I have hope for Cyprus, thank you Christofias.

I cant help asking myself in the event of a solution what are the chances of a repeat of 63? Can the GCs learn to accept a partnership with TCs?

[Oracle]

Having a "notion of a partnership" and having an actual partnership are two different things.

Besides if one "partner" has been caught in lining his own pockets with unfair "perks", then carrying out a betrayal tantamount to dissolving even a "notion" of a partnership by "gifting" the assets to a relative ... then no such partnership can be deemed to exist as a basis for future establishments ...

[miltiades]

Having a "notion of a partnership" and having an actual partnership are two different things.

Besides if one "partner" has been caught in lining his own pockets with unfair "perks", then carrying out a betrayal tantamount to dissolving even a "notion" of a partnership by "gifting" the assets to a relative ... then no such partnership can be deemed to exist as a basis for future establishments ...

Oracle we have to start from somewhere. The T/Cs must accept that 1963 was a long time ago , many profound changes and developments have since taken place not least the discovery of the Mobile telephone , the Computer age and I being a 62 year old now as against a 17 year old boy then. Events have moved on , 1963 IS HISTORY now. Propaganda based on events in the 60s has to be filed away in the deleted bin.
Lets get behind the new impetus for a viable solution and move ahead. I have no problem forgiving and forgetting .

[Piratis]

In 1950 the Cypriot people had asked for a referendum so the Cypriots themselves can decide in a peaceful democratic way the destiny of their own island among the legitimate options.

This was denied to the Cypriots and the British and Turks fought against the Cypriots in order to force on the Cypriots their will, and have gains on our loss, and they managed to do so in 1959.

But as you know we will never stop fighting for democracy, justice and freedom.

If you want peace, then you should accept that your minority will be equal citizens of this island, with a proportional power share. If you continue siding with the British and the Turks in order to force on us what is unjust and unfair, and have gains on our loss then forget about peace. We are not slaves and we will continue fighting for our freedom for as long as it takes.

[unitedwestand]

In 1950 the Cypriot people had asked for a referendum so the Cypriots themselves can decide in a peaceful democratic way the destiny of their own island among the legitimate options.

This was denied to the Cypriots and the British and Turks fought against the Cypriots in order to force on the Cypriots their will, and have gains on our loss, and they managed to do so in 1959.

But as you know we will never stop fighting for democracy, justice and freedom.

If you want peace, then you should accept that your minority will be equal citizens of this island, with a proportional power share. If you continue siding with the British and the Turks in order to force on us what is unjust and unfair, and have gains on our loss then forget about peace. We are not slaves and we will continue fighting for our freedom for as long as it takes.

I promise you, we will not treat you as slaves. Just equal partners.

[Piratis]

You and me can be equal citizens. What you demand is that 5 GCs should be equal to 1 TC.

Would Turkey be willing to make the Greek minority of Turkey "equal partners" as well? If they accept then I accept as well. If they don't accept, then I don't accept either. Fair?

[unitedwestand]

You and me can be equal citizens. What you demand is that 5 GCs should be equal to 1 TC.

Would Turkey be willing to make the Greek minority of Turkey "equal partners" as well? If they accept then I accept as well. If they don't accept, then I don't accept either. Fair?

No, not fair. We are talking about Cyprus here. Why bring Turkey into the argument. Turkeys only involvement is its power of guarantor.

[Kikapu]

You and me can be equal citizens. What you demand is that 5 GCs should be equal to 1 TC.

Would Turkey be willing to make the Greek minority of Turkey "equal partners" as well? If they accept then I accept as well. If they don't accept, then I don't accept either. Fair?

No, not fair. We are talking about Cyprus here. Why bring Turkey into the argument. Turkeys only involvement is its power of guarantor.

Ok, lets talk about Cyprus only. If there are two states in Cyprus, North and South under a Federation-Confederation, would the minority GC's living in the North be given 50% power and a veto right on what ever is decided in the north as well as block any secession from the Union.??

[unitedwestand]

You and me can be equal citizens. What you demand is that 5 GCs should be equal to 1 TC.

Would Turkey be willing to make the Greek minority of Turkey "equal partners" as well? If they accept then I accept as well. If they don't accept, then I don't accept either. Fair?

No, not fair. We are talking about Cyprus here. Why bring Turkey into the argument. Turkeys only involvement is its power of guarantor.

Ok, lets talk about Cyprus only. If there are two states in Cyprus, North and South under a Federation-Confederation, would the minority GC's living in the North be given 50% power and a veto right on what ever is decided in the north as well as block any secession from the Union.??

Certainly not. All GCs living in the north will have to be circumcised and become Muslims. They will have to be fluent in Turkish and swear full allegiance and loyalty to Turkey.

And last but not least all their girls will have to remain virgins until they find a TC husband

[Kikapu]

Certainly not. All GCs living in the north will have to be circumcised and become Muslims. They will have to be fluent in Turkish and swear full allegiance and loyalty to Turkey.

Some 16th century ideas will never die. Thanks for the confirmation.!!

And last but not least all their girls will have to remain virgins until they find a TC husband

You mean just like the TC girls now.!!