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Postby Get Real! » Sat May 24, 2008 4:07 pm

Gabira wrote:And how do you explain the edudation, knowledge and life experiences of the TC diaspora who are greater in number than the TC's in the TRNC ? Most TC's are educated in other Western countries and not TRNC.

The TC diaspora is NOT greater in number than the Turkish Cypriots in the “TRNC” so get your facts right for once. As I said earlier, even those that escaped the schooling system of the “TRNC” have been poisoned by the many distorted writings of Denktash and other sick Turkish and Turkish Cypriot 2-cent authors, and by their community.

You are part of a community that is seriously mentally ill from decades of mental abuse by your society and your response here is testimony of that; needless to say that the rest of your post is not worth the hard disk space it occupies.

I’d wish you luck for you rehabilitation but chances are it will never be successful because the human brain can only take so much abuse before the damage becomes irreversible.
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Postby Oracle » Sat May 24, 2008 4:13 pm

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Collaboration with the Turkish Cypriot team responsible for studying the textbooks used in the final grade of Turkish Cypriot elementary school, has shown that Turkish Cypriot history education also presents major problems as according to the study, the Turkish Cypriot students are also educated to perceive an "us" which defies the "other" ....


Note the use of the word 'also' :wink:


Yes we noticed. :roll: They used it twice in one sentence. That is bad grammar. Naughty!
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 24, 2008 4:22 pm

74LB wrote:POSTs findings show that what was being taught and what is now being taught are different and I for one welcome the changes that are/have taken place.

They say :

Main Findings of the Project:
The comparative analysis illustrates that the new history textbooks mark a clear break from the approaches used in the old textbooks. The new books evaluate historical issues from a humanistic perspective. Moreover, there is no obvious indication of a national enemy, or the “other” in the new books. One of the most fundamental characteristics of the new textbooks is the emphasis on social history and its role in general history. By emphasizing social history, the idea of Cypriotness is promoted.The new books are strikingly different from the old textbooks, as they encourage students to employ critical thinking and analyse the subject matter from various viewpoints, (including the Greek Cypriot perspective).
The revised textbooks contain many visual images including photographs, drawings and caricatures. These visual images are used as an additional learning tool and help to further explain and highlight important points.
By and large, the text and the visual images contained in all three books, attempt to provide a balanced view of Cyprus and its people.


It would be interesting to compare the findings of POST with the work carried out by AKTI (who I believe carried out similar research on the GC education system). Their website only gives a summary so does not contain as much detail as provided by their TC counterparts (maybe GR can post their full findings for us to compare).

http://akti.org.cy/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=42&Itemid=5.

AKTI says :
Collaboration with the Turkish Cypriot team responsible for studying the textbooks used in the final grade of Turkish Cypriot elementary school, has shown that Turkish Cypriot history education also presents major problems as according to the study, the Turkish Cypriot students are also educated to perceive an "us" which defies the "other" i.e. the Greeks. It would be useful to form an educational committee consisting of Greek Cypriot and Turkish Cypriot scholars, in order to investigate the possibility of writing a pilot book on the history of Cyprus , which will recognize the identity of each community while at the same time highlighting the coexistence of these two identities in the Cypriot space.


Note the use of the word 'also' :wink:


74LB what you posted sounds like an ad: "The all new XYZ, now with a new improved much better formula!"


Well, what specifically was changed?

Have the now stopped presenting the Greek Cypriots as being criminals for simply wanting their liberation from the British and Ottoman overlords as it happened to other parts of the Hellenic world?

Have they now finally told the truth to the TCs about how the inter-communal conflict started and that both sides had losses from it?

Have they stopped propagating the lie that in 1974 the Turkish army made a "peace operation" to save the TCs that were supposedly genocided (when the fact is that in 1974 no TC was harmed until after the Turks with the help of TCs invaded our country and started to kill Cypriots by the 1000s).

These are the main big lies which the Turkish occupation regime has been brainwashing TCs for decades, in order to excuse the creation of the pseudo state and the need for partition.

Has any of the above changed?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 26, 2008 1:50 am

Where have all these fine TC graduates disappeared to? :lol:
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Postby metecyp » Mon May 26, 2008 2:50 am

Where have all these fine TC graduates disappeared to? Laughing

My friend was in that committee that did the initial study and I remember talking to him about it. He was saying how the education system on both sides of the island is simply brainwashing. So while the findings about the TC education might be true, it's equally bad, if not worse, in the south. There has been recent updates to the TC text books for a more neutral approach to history but I'm not aware of any changes in the GC text books about anything.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 26, 2008 3:44 am

metecyp wrote:
Where have all these fine TC graduates disappeared to? Laughing

My friend was in that committee that did the initial study and I remember talking to him about it. He was saying how the education system on both sides of the island is simply brainwashing. So while the findings about the TC education might be true, it's equally bad, if not worse, in the south. There has been recent updates to the TC text books for a more neutral approach to history but I'm not aware of any changes in the GC text books about anything.

What a pitiful attempt to soften the blow and even turn things around! :roll:

On this forum we only go by EVIDENCE in the form of CREDIBLE LINKS and not by what our friends say... we don't care what your friend said. A link has already been posted of the corresponding organization earlier in this thread, that checked the GC history books and I don't see any problem worth mentioning.
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Postby bilako22 » Mon May 26, 2008 10:27 am

Get Real! wrote:
metecyp wrote:
Where have all these fine TC graduates disappeared to? Laughing

My friend was in that committee that did the initial study and I remember talking to him about it. He was saying how the education system on both sides of the island is simply brainwashing. So while the findings about the TC education might be true, it's equally bad, if not worse, in the south. There has been recent updates to the TC text books for a more neutral approach to history but I'm not aware of any changes in the GC text books about anything.

What a pitiful attempt to soften the blow and even turn things around! :roll:

On this forum we only go by EVIDENCE in the form of CREDIBLE LINKS and not by what our friends say... we don't care what your friend said. A link has already been posted of the corresponding organization earlier in this thread, that checked the GC history books and I don't see any problem worth mentioning.


Credible evidence ? What a joke .
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Postby DT. » Mon May 26, 2008 10:28 am

bilako22 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
metecyp wrote:
Where have all these fine TC graduates disappeared to? Laughing

My friend was in that committee that did the initial study and I remember talking to him about it. He was saying how the education system on both sides of the island is simply brainwashing. So while the findings about the TC education might be true, it's equally bad, if not worse, in the south. There has been recent updates to the TC text books for a more neutral approach to history but I'm not aware of any changes in the GC text books about anything.

What a pitiful attempt to soften the blow and even turn things around! :roll:

On this forum we only go by EVIDENCE in the form of CREDIBLE LINKS and not by what our friends say... we don't care what your friend said. A link has already been posted of the corresponding organization earlier in this thread, that checked the GC history books and I don't see any problem worth mentioning.


Credible evidence ? What a joke .


why do you bother even posting?
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Postby Oracle » Mon May 26, 2008 10:38 am

metecyp wrote:
Where have all these fine TC graduates disappeared to? Laughing

My friend was in that committee that did the initial study and I remember talking to him about it. He was saying how the education system on both sides of the island is simply brainwashing. So while the findings about the TC education might be true, it's equally bad, if not worse, in the south. There has been recent updates to the TC text books for a more neutral approach to history but I'm not aware of any changes in the GC text books about anything.


How is the debacle on teaching Evolution / Creationism in US schools progressing?

No system is perfect, but there is no vested interest in GC schools teaching anything other than truly educational material, since we have a long tradition of respecting the necessity of a formal education .... It helps us see off invaders without resorting to their barbaric habits.

BTW ... apart from personal experience, I learnt about the barbaric habits of the Turks in British schools ....
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Postby umit07 » Wed May 28, 2008 9:27 pm

I is here! Bring it on GR !!!!!!!
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