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[halil]

While Friday's meeting did not settle on when direct negotiations will begin, it did manage to allay some Greek Cypriot concerns by reaffirming that the two sides remained committed to a bi-zonal and bi-communal federation. The Greek Cypriot administration had been worried that the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey could be aiming for a two-state settlement that would formally split the island.

Such fears among Greek Cypriots stem from an April 24 statement by Turkey's National Security Council (MGK) referring to a solution "based on the realities on the island and on the existence of two separate peoples and two democracies."

"The National Security Council of Turkey a few days ago came out with a statement that Turkey wants a solution of two states and speaks about the necessity of a new cooperation between the two states -- of the Greek Cypriot state and the Turkish Cypriot state as they say -- and this is the idea of the 'virgin birth' of a new state," Greek Cypriot government spokesman Stephanos Stephanou said.

"For us this is a very dangerous position because if we agree, if we accept the idea of a virgin birth, that means we eliminate the idea of the Cyprus Republic and the history of the Cyprus Republic, which is a member of the United Nations and of the European Union," he said in remarks this week.

On Thursday Talat's spokesman, Hasan Erçakıca, said "it would be wrong" to claim that no progress has been made. Another major sticking point so far has been whether any new peace deal would be modeled on a UN reunification plan that Turkish Cypriots accepted but Greek Cypriots rejected in 2004.

While the two Cypriot leaders met in the island, Turkish Cypriot Prime Minister Ferdi Sabit Soyer had talks with Turkish President Abdullah Gül on Thursday and Friday in Ankara. Soyer, accompanied by his foreign minister, Turgay Avcı, and Finance Minister Ahmet Uzun, met with President Gül and Deputy Prime Minister Cemil Çiçek during his two-day trip to discuss financial aid from Turkey to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC).

[pantheman]

How about we organise a "peaceful" demo at the palace to show the Pres X we are not happy with his direction.

That way there are no excuses for him to say he didn't know.

This is all assuming that he is genuinely going down this route, I still can't believe it.

[Oracle]

How about we organise a "peaceful" demo at the palace to show the Pres X we are not happy with his direction.

That way there are no excuses for him to say he didn't know.

This is all assuming that he is genuinely going down this route, I still can't believe it.

Pantheman I am with you on this ... once we know if this is really the case, which I am not convinced about .... I really think there is more to Christofias than meets the eye (at the moment) ... and I suspect he has something up his sleeve ....

[unitedwestand]

How about we organise a "peaceful" demo at the palace to show the Pres X we are not happy with his direction.

That way there are no excuses for him to say he didn't know.

This is all assuming that he is genuinely going down this route, I still can't believe it.

Pantheman I am with you on this ... once we know if this is really the case, which I am not convinced about .... I really think there is more to Christofias than meets the eye (at the moment) ... and I suspect he has something up his sleeve .... :wink:

He has, his arm

[halil]

Presidential Spokesman Hasan Ercakica has said that the Turkish Cypriot Side is satisfied with the outcome of yesterday’s meeting between the two leaders.
Speaking to the TAK newsagency, the Presidential Spokesman said the lack of common vision in what the Greek Cypriot Side is claiming has been done away by the meeting.
Noting that the disagreement over the exact date of the start of the comprehensive negotiations, he said Turkish Cypriot Side is insisting on starting negotiations at the end of June, however, Greek Cypriot Leader says he will not be ready to start talks until the end of June.


Turkey has welcomed the outcome of yesterday’s meeting between President Talat and the Greek Cypriot Leader.
In a written statement, Turkish Foreign Ministry said it is expecting the direct negotiations to be started as soon as possible with the aim of establishing a new partnership state in Cyprus.

"Turkey expects two leaders of Cyprus to start direct talks under the UN secretary-general's good will mission to find a comprehensive and a fair settlement which will be based on bi-zonality and political equality of the two founding states" the statement said.

[Oracle]

How about we organise a "peaceful" demo at the palace to show the Pres X we are not happy with his direction.

That way there are no excuses for him to say he didn't know.

This is all assuming that he is genuinely going down this route, I still can't believe it.

Pantheman I am with you on this ... once we know if this is really the case, which I am not convinced about .... I really think there is more to Christofias than meets the eye (at the moment) ... and I suspect he has something up his sleeve .... :wink:

He has, his arm

Well then duck!

[Oracle]

.... he said Turkish Cypriot Side is insisting on starting negotiations at the end of June, however, Greek Cypriot Leader says he will not be ready to start talks until the end of June.

... So everyone agreed then ... end of June! ... ?

[miltiades]

We will see !
there will be no ways ....

Cypriots will decide at referandum .... not people like you from Australia or UK or some where else..............

Well that is where you a fucking wrong you moron.

If you ask me, Cypriots in Australia, many of which are refugees have more right to vote than your settlers from Turkey. How dare you say that my inlaws should not have a say since you stole their fucking house. If I ever meet you Halil, I am going to punch you in the mouth. You have made me so angry.

So piss off you dickhead!

same crap again stolen this ,stolen that .we passed those stages .they are on the table .
you know that when dog barks we don't scare from that dog .
by treatining nothing you can get . if you were a fire ,you can not damage .
don't get angry , talks are not started yet !!!!!!!!!!!
ha siktir lan ............

Paphitis , there is absolutely no justification in abusing Halil , a congenial gentleman and a Cypriot. If you ever met him you say you will punch him in the mouth !! Is this in line with your support for a war right now , I suppose you might even want to punch me in the mouth. As far as I can see negotiations are taking place in order to find an acceptable solution. Neither side can obtain all it wants , negotiations will continue , in the meantime lay off Halil , you can vent your anger on me since I would reciprocate but Halil is too much of a gentleman to resort to remonstrations and abuse.
Take it easy Paphitis.

[halil]

CITIZENS FOR THE OPENING OF THE LOKMACI WELCOMED THE EFFORTS TOWARDS OPENING THE PIRGO-YESILIRMAK GATE.

Last Friday, President Mehmet Ali Talat and Greek Cypriot Leader Demetris Christofias agreed to ask their representatives to consider civilian and military confidence-building measures, including the opening of Pirgo-Yesilirmak gate and other crossing points.

In a statement on Monday, the Chairperson of the Citizens for the Opening of the Lokmaci Valentina Sofokleus said that the opening of the gate is a humanitarian issue that should be tackled urgently.

Stressing that she is in support of the steps to be taken by senior aides of the two leaders on the issue, she said `our expectation is that the necessary steps will be taken towards the opening of the gate in a short period of time following a procedure applied at the other crossing points`.
During their meeting last Friday, Talat and Christofias reaffirmed their commitment to a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation with political equality as defined by relevant Security Council resolutions.

They also decided to meet again in the second half of June to make a new assessment.