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[Kifeas]

File Kifea,

Don't waste your time with the Bananaidiot.

he ain't worth it. For as long as he is riding a Turkish cock he will spew their shit for them.

Bananaidiot, I cannot for the life of me understand you, and why you want to so easily give up our country to Turkey. You cannot be from Gypsou thats for sure, they never had cowards and traitors in that village, but only freedom fighters.

You should be ashamed of yourself, don't ever say you are a GC, you are a disgrace to your community. lambro na se kapsi

Pantheman, I may also use strong words against Bananiot, but this is not because I regard him as a traitor per se, that wants to give up our country to Turkey. I do not accept that he has such an intention or aim! I may use strong words against him, not because we happen to see things from a different perspective, but because I become frustrated to the fact that he doesn’t try to argue -set aside logically (even though unlike others he is capable of doing so;) and instead he comes up dogmatic in his own way and tries to avoid or skip the essence of the discussion with slogans and generalities, or by introducing irrelevant and out of context notions in an attempt to shadow someone else’s logical argumentation, just because it doesn't serve his own perspective!

I do not accept he is a traitor, and I believe that deep down he also means the best interests of his country! He is just dogmatic, but who is seating on the other end of the spectrum of that of the far right and equally dogmatic nationalistic extremists! I feel that both extreme ends are equally harmful to our cause, but not because they mean to wrong their country and its people!

[Oracle]

Actually, when a gene is constantly expressed or switched on it is said to be "constitutively expressed" because it is needed / necessary / vital!

constantly ....is akin to constitutive.....

Now I get it!

But in that case they should have used the term facultative for the Turks

[Oracle]

BTW ... facultative as in optional or discretionary.

(As opposed to obligatory, as denoted by constitutive).

Bananiot will know what I mean, being a biologist.

[pantheman]

File Kifea,

Don't waste your time with the Bananaidiot.

he ain't worth it. For as long as he is riding a Turkish cock he will spew their shit for them.

Bananaidiot, I cannot for the life of me understand you, and why you want to so easily give up our country to Turkey. You cannot be from Gypsou thats for sure, they never had cowards and traitors in that village, but only freedom fighters.

You should be ashamed of yourself, don't ever say you are a GC, you are a disgrace to your community. lambro na se kapsi

Shame on you. I know for sure these words are not just for Bananiot, they are aimed at anybody with decency and respect for his fellow man. Your only problem is that the decency and respect shown by Bananiot is for his compatriot the TC.

Well my friend, we the TCs will live happily with the Bananiots of Cyprus.

This has nothing to do with Cyprus politics or Christofias letting you down, this is purely your hatred for the TCs. We are here to stay and share Cyprus with you, GET USED TO IT.

UWS, how wrong you are. I don't have anything against TCs, what pissis me off is when we can see that the deal being struct is totally unfair to us and we have one of our own who argues for it.

I have no issue living with TCs, but you get what you are due , and not at our expense. Bananiot just wants a deal any deal just to appease the Turks. Up until recently I always thought he was a TC, I was shocked when he told me otherwise. I would have staked my life on it.
I have never read ANYTHING that Bananiot ever wrote that comes remotely close to supporting the GC cause, it has only ever been for the TKs/TCs.

I still don't like him, he can go to hell, with countrymen like him who needs enemies?

[Bananiot]

For a start, I would like to point out to oracle that she can rest assure I am not one bit interested in what there is between her ... lines. Also, I wish she would stop taking the cue from others and jump into debates expecting us to pay special attention to her and above all read between her lines. It is getting rather tedious. For every one.

One needs to have a certain amount of political culture in order to understand, first the need for the meeting between the two leaders and secondly the fine technicalities the joined communiqué negotiated. One such person would have understood first that the meeting became a necessity in order to prevent the worse, that is, the slow down in the Working Groups and the Technical Committees. The two leaders stepped in in order to save the process which started last month and this by itself shows that both are genuine about finding a solution.

Then, both showed courage in not insisting on certain vocal slogans that were heard over the last period. Talat in effect put an end to the virgin birth talk. This was good for the Greek side and people that are really interested in solution appreciated this move by Talat. Christofias, unlike his present day supporters in government (DIKO, EDEK) did not mince his words either. His two partners in government would have been more than happy to see the end of the current effort, but Christofias had the interest of the process in mind and was quite happy to meet Talat again on the day Talat had asked for face to face negotiations of the two leaders to begin. This is something that we have not been seeing in the past and the emphasis was not on scoring points but on tackling pressing issues. So, depending on your prospective, you either like what you see or you see weak presidents in front of you who are selling your country because of their acemilikki.

The business about “component” and “constituent” underlines the almost totally legalistic view we have of a serious, political problem. This is because we have been bogged down for many decades by incompetent lawyers who would be looking for a hard to find job when the Cyprob is history. This applies to both, Greek and Turkish side.

P.S. Pantheman: I know now exactly who you are and I would be more that interested to hear you face to face.

[BirKibrisli]

File Kifea,

Don't waste your time with the Bananaidiot.

he ain't worth it. For as long as he is riding a Turkish cock he will spew their shit for them.

Bananaidiot, I cannot for the life of me understand you, and why you want to so easily give up our country to Turkey. You cannot be from Gypsou thats for sure, they never had cowards and traitors in that village, but only freedom fighters.

You should be ashamed of yourself, don't ever say you are a GC, you are a disgrace to your community. lambro na se kapsi

Pantheman, I may also use strong words against Bananiot, but this is not because I regard him as a traitor per se, that wants to give up our country to Turkey. I do not accept that he has such an intention or aim! I may use strong words against him, not because we happen to see things from a different perspective, but because I become frustrated to the fact that he doesn’t try to argue -set aside logically (even though unlike others he is capable of doing so;) and instead he comes up dogmatic in his own way and tries to avoid or skip the essence of the discussion with slogans and generalities, or by introducing irrelevant and out of context notions in an attempt to shadow someone else’s logical argumentation, just because it doesn't serve his own perspective!

I do not accept he is a traitor, and I believe that deep down he also means the best interests of his country! He is just dogmatic, but who is seating on the other end of the spectrum of that of the far right and equally dogmatic nationalistic extremists! I feel that both extreme ends are equally harmful to our cause, but not because they mean to wrong their country and its people!

Good on you,Kifeas...for not letting this vile attack against Bananiot stand..It is so easy to brush someone with the "traitor" colour,because they think outside the accepted square...I too get the same treatment sometimes from my short-sighted TC brothers...What Bananiot has and most of the others on this forum do not have is empathy and compassion for the "other" side...The indisputable truth of the matter is if the solution of Cyprob depended on Bananiot and myself,we would come up with something that would come close to the ideal solution for all Cypriots...

Bananiot knows only too well that the alternative to a BBF is not a clean partition along 82-18 % of land,but the preservation of the status quo at best and the annexation of 38% of Cyprus by Turkey at worst...Bananiot is the ultimate realist,the true patriot,even though he has strong disdain I know for patriots...His love for Cyprus is no less then anyone else's on this Forum,and I dare say considerably more than the majority of the misguided Greek and Turkish nationalists...He deserves out thanks and our respects,for he puts a human face to our little problem that no politician can ever dream of...

[repulsewarrior]

Oracle, flour is a component of cake, vanilla is a constituent because cake is cake regardless of its flavour.

[repulsewarrior]

...i assume my Manifesto is ignored, not because it is impossible, but because it requires a focus on Cyprus, rather than "Greek" Cyprus or "Turkish" Cyprus. It requires from all of us a change, it does not "punish" or "reward" one party over the other, it recognises that we must all "pay" a price to have our own Free Will.

[miltiades]

Oracle, flour is a component of cake, vanilla is a constituent because cake is cake regardless of its flavour.

Its therefore like human blood , a component of the human race , where stupidity is a constituent generally found amongst the Plonkers of this world !!
Repulsewarrior , do not misunderstand my above comment please , it has nothing what so ever to do with you , just the Plonkers !!

[Oracle]

...The indisputable truth of the matter is if the solution of Cyprob depended on Bananiot and myself,we would come up with something that would come close to the ideal solution for all Cypriots...
...

What sheer arrogance you possess Birkibrisli and without a wink or smiley to mitigate! Admirable gal or blind faith in ones suitability; I cannot fathom.

Reading between the lines (a task defeating some ) I guess behind every post, lurks a virtual politician.

But some have moved beyond the realms of discussing ideas and proposals, and have appointed themselves as our Dictators ...

Carry on huffing and puffing, gentlemen!