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Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 23, 2008 9:57 pm

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unitedwestand wrote:
miltiades wrote:I reserve my judgement until we hear from the RoC government .We mustn't rush and speculate at what might come out of the current negotiations and what might or might not be accepted by Christophias .
We can not afford another referendum ending in a rejection of a given plan.


Wise words from a wise man. Kifeas, Piratis and GR want to attack. For them its all about balance of power and bloodshed. Fucking morons :roll:


We have been attacked from Turkey which is now illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of our country violating the human rights of Cypriots and the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. What we will do is to defend our country from the criminal invadors of your kind.

So get your facts straight about who is attacking and who is defending. Cypriots never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading our island.


You didnt have to venture out of the island you were doing enough damage internally to people you claim are your own, that it was necessary for an outside strength to intervene.


We have already established that it is the Turks who started all the attacks against Cypriots. The very first attack, constant attacks and massacres against us during their brutal rule of our island, the in 1958 they attacked us again starting the inter-communal conflict, and then in 1974 again.

Cypriots never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading us. All we ever did was to fight for our freedom and self-determination on our island, against those that wanted to take our rights and our freedom. (and not against anybody else).


You think you proved who attacked first, do you know about the killing in Kyrenia Bogaz region?

You had suceeded to discriminate and persecute TCs, you must feel real proud why do not speak about these acts? why were you not campagining for democracy and human rights for all equal Cypriots back then?
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Postby Oracle » Fri May 23, 2008 9:57 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
miltiades wrote:I reserve my judgement until we hear from the RoC government .We mustn't rush and speculate at what might come out of the current negotiations and what might or might not be accepted by Christophias .
We can not afford another referendum ending in a rejection of a given plan.


Wise words from a wise man. Kifeas, Piratis and GR want to attack. For them its all about balance of power and bloodshed. Fucking morons :roll:


We have been attacked from Turkey which is now illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of our country violating the human rights of Cypriots and the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. What we will do is to defend our country from the criminal invadors of your kind.

So get your facts straight about who is attacking and who is defending. Cypriots never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading our island.


You didnt have to venture out of the island you were doing enough damage internally to people you claim are your own, that it was necessary for an outside strength to intervene.


We have already established that it is the Turks who started all the attacks against Cypriots. The very first attack, constant attacks and massacres against us during their brutal rule of our island, the in 1958 they attacked us again starting the inter-communal conflict, and then in 1974 again.

Cypriots never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading us. All we ever did was to fight for our freedom and self-determination on our island, against those that wanted to take our rights and our freedom. (and not against anybody else).


Piratis, if you think you are fooling anybody with you garbage propaganda you are mistaken.

Let me tell you this works. GCs have their own version of Cyprus history. TCs have their own. And then there is the one known by the wider audience, that's the rest of the world. Its what the rest of the world know that should worry you. :wink:


It's how far the TC version is from all the rest that you have to worry about Unit .... :wink:
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Postby unitedwestand » Fri May 23, 2008 9:59 pm

Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:And pigs fly? :lol:

Facts:

1) In 1974 no TC was harmed before Turkey invaded and started killing Cypriots by the 1000s. All that about "TCs being annihilated" and Turkey coming to save them is nothing more than lies and I have proven this many many times.

2) The illegal occupation of Cyprus by Turkey is condemned with UN resolutions who demand the respect of the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus.

Please stop making ridiculous comments, claiming that when Turkey has 40.000 occupation forces on the soil of Republic of Cyprus, occupying 1/3rd of our country, that this is not an attack against Cyprus. Of course it is an attack, of the worst kind, and Cyprus has every right to defend its sovereignty from the foreign invader.


Well, what are you waiting for then TORA, TORA, TORA. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now is not a good time. We will first wait until Turkey splits up between Turks and Kurds and Secularists and Islamists. That will be a good time, and be sure it is not very far away.

Meanwhile we will continue to progress as the European people that we are, even with 1/3rd of our country under illegal occupation, and look at the Turks to beg for EU and for loans to survive, since they have never been able to achieve anything much apart from killing and stealing the lands of others.


Wishful thinking. If you are counting on the scenario alone then may I suggest you come up with a plan B?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 23, 2008 10:00 pm

Oracle wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
miltiades wrote:I reserve my judgement until we hear from the RoC government .We mustn't rush and speculate at what might come out of the current negotiations and what might or might not be accepted by Christophias .
We can not afford another referendum ending in a rejection of a given plan.


Wise words from a wise man. Kifeas, Piratis and GR want to attack. For them its all about balance of power and bloodshed. Fucking morons :roll:


We have been attacked from Turkey which is now illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of our country violating the human rights of Cypriots and the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. What we will do is to defend our country from the criminal invadors of your kind.

So get your facts straight about who is attacking and who is defending. Cypriots never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading our island.


You didnt have to venture out of the island you were doing enough damage internally to people you claim are your own, that it was necessary for an outside strength to intervene.


We have already established that it is the Turks who started all the attacks against Cypriots. The very first attack, constant attacks and massacres against us during their brutal rule of our island, the in 1958 they attacked us again starting the inter-communal conflict, and then in 1974 again.

Cypriots never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading us. All we ever did was to fight for our freedom and self-determination on our island, against those that wanted to take our rights and our freedom. (and not against anybody else).


Piratis, if you think you are fooling anybody with you garbage propaganda you are mistaken.

Let me tell you this works. GCs have their own version of Cyprus history. TCs have their own. And then there is the one known by the wider audience, that's the rest of the world. Its what the rest of the world know that should worry you. :wink:


It's how far the TC version is from all the rest that you have to worry about Unit .... :wink:


or how far your version is from the rest.
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Postby Piratis » Fri May 23, 2008 10:02 pm

unitedwestand wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
miltiades wrote:I reserve my judgement until we hear from the RoC government .We mustn't rush and speculate at what might come out of the current negotiations and what might or might not be accepted by Christophias .
We can not afford another referendum ending in a rejection of a given plan.


Wise words from a wise man. Kifeas, Piratis and GR want to attack. For them its all about balance of power and bloodshed. Fucking morons :roll:


We have been attacked from Turkey which is now illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of our country violating the human rights of Cypriots and the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. What we will do is to defend our country from the criminal invadors of your kind.

So get your facts straight about who is attacking and who is defending. Cypriots never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading our island.


You didnt have to venture out of the island you were doing enough damage internally to people you claim are your own, that it was necessary for an outside strength to intervene.


We have already established that it is the Turks who started all the attacks against Cypriots. The very first attack, constant attacks and massacres against us during their brutal rule of our island, the in 1958 they attacked us again starting the inter-communal conflict, and then in 1974 again.

Cypriots never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading us. All we ever did was to fight for our freedom and self-determination on our island, against those that wanted to take our rights and our freedom. (and not against anybody else).


Piratis, if you think you are fooling anybody with you garbage propaganda you are mistaken.

Let me tell you this works. GCs have their own version of Cyprus history. TCs have their own. And then there is the one known by the wider audience, that's the rest of the world. Its what the rest of the world know that should worry you. :wink:


The difference is that what I say is the truth and your version of history is nothing more than lies.

For example:

You say that in 1974 "Turkey invaded to save the TCs who were exterminated". This is somehting very easy to prove as a lie. The invasion was on 20th of July of 1974. In 1974 no TC was killed before Turkey started their invasion.

If you disagree with this, then tell us how many TCs were killed in 1974 before the Turkish invasion, and give us your sources.

If you can't do this, then admit that you are lying. Deal?
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Postby unitedwestand » Fri May 23, 2008 10:02 pm

Oracle wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
miltiades wrote:I reserve my judgement until we hear from the RoC government .We mustn't rush and speculate at what might come out of the current negotiations and what might or might not be accepted by Christophias .
We can not afford another referendum ending in a rejection of a given plan.


Wise words from a wise man. Kifeas, Piratis and GR want to attack. For them its all about balance of power and bloodshed. Fucking morons :roll:


We have been attacked from Turkey which is now illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of our country violating the human rights of Cypriots and the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. What we will do is to defend our country from the criminal invadors of your kind.

So get your facts straight about who is attacking and who is defending. Cypriots never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading our island.


You didnt have to venture out of the island you were doing enough damage internally to people you claim are your own, that it was necessary for an outside strength to intervene.


We have already established that it is the Turks who started all the attacks against Cypriots. The very first attack, constant attacks and massacres against us during their brutal rule of our island, the in 1958 they attacked us again starting the inter-communal conflict, and then in 1974 again.

Cypriots never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading us. All we ever did was to fight for our freedom and self-determination on our island, against those that wanted to take our rights and our freedom. (and not against anybody else).


Piratis, if you think you are fooling anybody with you garbage propaganda you are mistaken.

Let me tell you this works. GCs have their own version of Cyprus history. TCs have their own. And then there is the one known by the wider audience, that's the rest of the world. Its what the rest of the world know that should worry you. :wink:


It's how far the TC version is from all the rest that you have to worry about Unit .... :wink:


Our version is closest to the truth. Yours is a fairytale :wink:
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Postby unitedwestand » Fri May 23, 2008 10:07 pm

Piratis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
miltiades wrote:I reserve my judgement until we hear from the RoC government .We mustn't rush and speculate at what might come out of the current negotiations and what might or might not be accepted by Christophias .
We can not afford another referendum ending in a rejection of a given plan.


Wise words from a wise man. Kifeas, Piratis and GR want to attack. For them its all about balance of power and bloodshed. Fucking morons :roll:


We have been attacked from Turkey which is now illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of our country violating the human rights of Cypriots and the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. What we will do is to defend our country from the criminal invadors of your kind.

So get your facts straight about who is attacking and who is defending. Cypriots never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading our island.


You didnt have to venture out of the island you were doing enough damage internally to people you claim are your own, that it was necessary for an outside strength to intervene.


We have already established that it is the Turks who started all the attacks against Cypriots. The very first attack, constant attacks and massacres against us during their brutal rule of our island, the in 1958 they attacked us again starting the inter-communal conflict, and then in 1974 again.

Cypriots never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading us. All we ever did was to fight for our freedom and self-determination on our island, against those that wanted to take our rights and our freedom. (and not against anybody else).


Piratis, if you think you are fooling anybody with you garbage propaganda you are mistaken.

Let me tell you this works. GCs have their own version of Cyprus history. TCs have their own. And then there is the one known by the wider audience, that's the rest of the world. Its what the rest of the world know that should worry you. :wink:


The difference is that what I say is the truth and your version of history is nothing more than lies.

For example:

You say that in 1974 "Turkey invaded to save the TCs who were exterminated". This is somehting very easy to prove as a lie. The invasion was on 20th of July of 1974. In 1974 no TC was killed before Turkey started their invasion.

If you disagree with this, then tell us how many TCs were killed in 1974 before the Turkish invasion, and give us your sources.

If you can't do this, then admit that you are lying. Deal?


Turkish Cypriots appealed to the Guarantor powers for help, but only Turkey was willing to make any effective response. The Greek newspaper Eleftherotipia published an interview with Nicos Sampson on 26th February 1981 in which he said "Had Turkey not intervened I would not only have proclaimed ENOSIS - I would have annihilated the Turks in Cyprus."

Saved by a fucking whisker I reckon :evil:
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Postby Eliko » Fri May 23, 2008 10:08 pm

If you listen carefully, you will hear the sheep bleating in their pens, meanwhile, the shepherds are busily deciding how to inform them of the fact that their fate was sealed long ago.

I think it is called 'Political Expediency' I am not too sure, but it does ring a bell. :roll: :wink:
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Postby Bananiot » Fri May 23, 2008 10:11 pm

Good on Christofias. I think the message that came out of the meeting is one of hope. I could not expect a different reaction from Kifeas. He has already made up his mind that partition is better than BBF and political equality of the two communities. He and all rejectionists know that its either this solution or partition. Thus, when it comes down to another referendum we will be deciding for the only possible solution or partition. We will be playing in a level field, for a change. Last time round, in 2004, we were told that its either the Annan Plan or a better, European solution. That was a lie by a man that lied profusely throughout his tenure as president.
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Postby Piratis » Fri May 23, 2008 10:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
unitedwestand wrote:
miltiades wrote:I reserve my judgement until we hear from the RoC government .We mustn't rush and speculate at what might come out of the current negotiations and what might or might not be accepted by Christophias .
We can not afford another referendum ending in a rejection of a given plan.


Wise words from a wise man. Kifeas, Piratis and GR want to attack. For them its all about balance of power and bloodshed. Fucking morons :roll:


We have been attacked from Turkey which is now illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of our country violating the human rights of Cypriots and the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. What we will do is to defend our country from the criminal invadors of your kind.

So get your facts straight about who is attacking and who is defending. Cypriots never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading our island.


You didnt have to venture out of the island you were doing enough damage internally to people you claim are your own, that it was necessary for an outside strength to intervene.


We have already established that it is the Turks who started all the attacks against Cypriots. The very first attack, constant attacks and massacres against us during their brutal rule of our island, the in 1958 they attacked us again starting the inter-communal conflict, and then in 1974 again.

Cypriots never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who kept invading us. All we ever did was to fight for our freedom and self-determination on our island, against those that wanted to take our rights and our freedom. (and not against anybody else).


You think you proved who attacked first, do you know about the killing in Kyrenia Bogaz region?

You had suceeded to discriminate and persecute TCs, you must feel real proud why do not speak about these acts? why were you not campagining for democracy and human rights for all equal Cypriots back then?


No mate, I don't know about any "killing in Kerynia". I know about the organized large scale attacks of Turks and TCs against Greek Cypriots.

You are the one who succeeded the discrimination among Cypriots. What we wanted is democracy and equal Cypriots, one person one vote, everybody with equal rights. But you didn't want that! You wanted, and you continue to want, to discriminate against us.
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