Cyprus-Forum.com

[Bananiot]

So, closing our eyes when Russia carpet bombed Grozny was the right thing to do Piratis. Your democracy stings!



Of course the Americans were "killers of the world" when they bombed Serbia, after thousands of muslim civilians of Serbenica were sent to meet their creator by our orthodox brothers

[Piratis]

GR, I expect nothing, I am free of ambitions. I am free! I was born a proletariat, I will die a proletariat. I am free of nationalism and full of internationalism. I am a citizen of the world ...

How then you can support segregation and racist discriminations, and call that a "solution"?

I think you are confused about what you are.

You were born a colonial subject and you want to die a colonial subject. You have no self respect and for you the only option is to just accept what your masters order you. You have no will to fight for what is right and just. Your only joy in life is the bravos of your masters about how nice and obedient slave you are.

[Kikapu]

thank-you.

...and Kikapu, I am still waiting for your comments, as well.

Sorry........!!

I did read your manifesto last week as a matter of fact and like some others who commented, having enclaves or what ever you want to call it will never materialise. We are having a hard time trying to convince the TC's to form a Federation in the north where most TC's can live if they choose to, to find safety in numbers if it's a problem for some. Personally I can live in a village being only GC's and it would not bother me in the least, but that's me and I cannot expect other TC's to do the same or live in enclaves, which has a very negative connotation with that word anyway.

Methods of governance can be anything as long as it is democratic, so the problem that we are having to sort out, in how to convince the "minority" to trust in democracy as equal citizens and not be concerned about being second class citizen, because that's how the TC's are equating being in the "numerically minority" as being unequal citizen. The rest of the developed world seem to have managed to get by with this question, but in Cyprus we are having trouble convincing people, then again, some do not need convincing, because they are happy with the present situation.

[Bananiot]

Piratis, you are really funny. You think I swore at your protege when I wrote that he was "sick". You forgot to complete my sentense. I said he is a sick nationalist. Of course all nationalists are sick and I do not know of a better word to describe them. Obviously, you do not dispute that he is a nationalist but you assume that I sworn at him by describing him as sick. You, in other words, did not object to the term "nationalist" but you thought the word "sick" was a cardinal sin on my behalf.

[Piratis]

So, closing our eyes when Russia carpet bombed Grozny was the right thing to do Piratis. Your democracy stings!



Of course the Americans were "killers of the world" when they bombed Serbia, after thousands of muslim civilians of Serbenica were sent to meet their creator by our orthodox brothers

How democracy has anything to do with how we choose to handle our international affairs?

About Russia, a Bananiot of Grozny would say that it is not the fault of Russians, it is their own fault for daring to fight for their freedom and therefore they deserved everything bad that happened to them. So why don't you listen to your Grozny twin?

I personally, never supported what Russia or China did in those cases. On the other hand you are a hypocrite, because you keep excusing what the AngloAmricans did and do to our own country and many other places, while you are quick to accuse Russia and China. But of course your masters are the AngloAmericans, so how could you ever go against them? You have to always excuse them and blame the Cypriots instead, isn't it Bananiot?

[Piratis]

Piratis, you are really funny. You think I swore at your protege when I wrote that he was "sick". You forgot to complete my sentense. I said he is a sick nationalist. Of course all nationalists are sick and I do not know of a better word to describe them. Obviously, you do not dispute that he is a nationalist but you assume that I sworn at him by describing him as sick. You, in other words, did not object to the term "nationalist" but you thought the word "sick" was a cardinal sin on my behalf.

Well, here is one definition of "nationalist": "one who is devoted to one's country, patriotic person"

That word can be bad or good depending on how you understand it.

On the other hand saying that he is "sick" is obviously a swearing, unless you were commenting on his health, which obviously was not the case.

[Bananiot]

About Russia, a Bananiot of Grozny would say that it is not the fault of Russians, it is their own fault for daring to fight for their freedom and therefore they deserved everything bad that happened to them. So why don't you listen to your Grozny twin?

Now I understand better how you think Piratis. You are saying in effect that during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus I was fighting on the side of the invaders but perhaps no one has told you that this is the "Greek thing" that is, to always accuse a "traitor" for all our misfortunes. This is quite convenient for the instigators of our misfortunes but I fail to understand how it suits you, unless you are a krypto coupist.

By the way, why should I believe you when you declare, some years later, that you did not support what the Russians did back then. Did you raise your voice at the time or did you rub your hands with joy?

[mehmet]

BirKibrisli wrote:
Bananiot wrote:
GR, I expect nothing, I am free of ambitions. I am free! I was born a proletariat, I will die a proletariat. I am free of nationalism and full of internationalism. I am a citizen of the world ...


A truly evolved,self-realised human being...I salute you,dear Bananiot Exclamation

Can all these…“Citizens of the world” kindly bugger off to their own country/kingdom thank you.

We are already in it, and you can not determine where we live.

[Bananiot]

You shouldn't take GR that seriously mehmet. Basically he is a lost soul, a nice chap, really. Perhaps he has never read of what the real Greeks said about the "citizen of the world". Present day Greeks are basically barbarians that learned Greek. Here is how the stoic philosophers thought about this: "The good, quality education for our children, they wrote, is the one that prepares the people for the ecumenical nationality" and furthermore they supported their opinion in this way:

1. In order to get to know youself you need to understand the world. This will lead to better solutions to problems
2. The citizen of the world recognises the basic characteristics of people which require our respect and acceptance

[Piratis]

About Russia, a Bananiot of Grozny would say that it is not the fault of Russians, it is their own fault for daring to fight for their freedom and therefore they deserved everything bad that happened to them. So why don't you listen to your Grozny twin?

Now I understand better how you think Piratis. You are saying in effect that during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus I was fighting on the side of the invaders but perhaps no one has told you that this is the "Greek thing" that is, to always accuse a "traitor" for all our misfortunes. This is quite convenient for the instigators of our misfortunes but I fail to understand how it suits you, unless you are a krypto coupist.

No Bananiot. I didn't say that you were fighting on the side of the invader.

What I say is simple: The British and Turks have used their power to kill 1000s of Cypriots and stop Cyprus from being free so they can control our island and keep their troops here. The same (more or less, I don't know their exact history) did the Russians with Chechnya. In the case of Cyprus instead of blaming the British or the Turks for the harm they have caused to our island, you blame the victims, the Cypriots! So why don't you do the same about Chechnya? Why don't you say that they are terrorists, they foolishly choose to fight for their freedom, and therefore they deserve all the bad things that happened to them?

By the way, why should I believe you when you declare, some years later, that you did not support what the Russians did back then. Did you raise your voice at the time or did you rub your hands with joy?

Why would I rub my hands with joy?? This is a Cyprus Problem forum and here I talk about Cyprus, unless something is related.

Here is for example what I said about the Thibetians less than two months ago:

The Kurds are in the same category as the Basques, the Tibetans and a few other nations who are under occupation.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=276678

You are the hypocrite Bananiot, not me!