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[pantheman]

Oracle,

The Turkish one is not bad, but KEO is superior. Mind you Nigerian Star is pretty good, although it is a long time since I drank any.

You can keep the American stuff, in any decent beer drinking country they would have been humane and shot the horse that produced it!

Thanks for the welcome, I hope neither of us comes to regret it.

Do I sense the second coming of Oracle???

Welcome CBBB (does it stand for Cypriot Bullshit Baffles Brains by any chance?? )

[CBBB]

Again, thank you for the welcome.

Your CBBB was not bad, but Complete Bollocks Brings Benefits is probably just as good!

[repulsewarrior]

welcome CBBB.

please read my Maifesto.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16772

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15874

...your comments I hope will be forthcoming.

[CBBB]

Repulsewarrior,

I need to study that in greater depth before commiting myself, although I can see some reasonable arguments there, but would it be acceptable.

I will come back to this later and not give a half-assed answer now.

[repulsewarrior]

thank-you.

...and Kikapu, I am still waiting for your comments, as well.

[Piratis]

I am not in the business of swearing at people Piratis. Just show me one post where I sworn at Papadopoulos or anyone else. I can show you numerous posts where friends of yours told me to F.O. and YOU just kept silent!

In your post previous to this one didn't you called Papadopoulos "sick"? What was that about? You are his doctor and gave an evaluation about his health?

The point here is that not only you criticized Papadopoulos, but you swear at him and say all kinds of lies about him, and at the same time you say that in the era of Papadopoulos criticism was not allowed! You are a living proof for the contrary.

Of course we know that you have a peculiar idea of what democracy is all about. You also still think that the truth is a matter of statistics and you pressed this home on a number of occasions. Now that your point of view finds itself in the minority, you have suddenly stopped asking people to stop criticising the democratically elected President!

And since when I became the minority on this subject? Didn't Christofias vote "NO" in the referendum for Annan plan, and he was elected by promising that he will not allow nothing like the Annan plan to return?

I have never asked from anybody to stop criticizing Papadopoulos.
What I asked from some GCs was not to adopt the Turkish propaganda against our president and say things that can be helpful for our enemy and damage the negotiating power of our president. Such thing would be a treason, and I have never done it, either before or now.

Papadopoulos has said on numerous occasions that he would negotiate the Cyprob on the basis of the Annan Plan. If you are prepared to negotiate it means, in every body's book, that you will be looking for solution and this is the reason you accept to negotiate.

Exactly. Looking for a solution. The Annan plan was not the solution, and Papadopoulos accepted to negotiate on it to see if it can be improved to such a degree that it can actually solve somehting. He never said that he will accept the Annan plan as it is, or with just some small changes. So Papadopoulos did exactly what he said he would do, and I hope Christofias will do the same.

Anyway, aren't we all glad Papadopoulos has left the scene! He made fools of us Cypriots in the international community to the point we would feel ashamed to say we were Cypriots. He made lying a profession and he even promised AKEL that he would never allow the right wing to form government again. This multi millionaire has made a mess of so many things the worse being he will let us now suffer from thirst because he not only fail to tackle the water issue but scandalously he dished out our precious water to the golf barons.

Papadopoulos did exactly what he promised to do. The economy in Cyprus has grown during the Papadopoulos era as well.
You don't like him because he didn't sell us to the Turks. If he had accepted the Annan partition plan you would love him.

[repulsewarrior]

...also, OP, after your realisation that enclaves, as i suggest their use, is viable toward a Solution, that you too would take the time to reread, and to add to your comments.

[pantheman]

Again, thank you for the welcome.

Your CBBB was not bad, but Complete Bollocks Brings Benefits is probably just as good!

CBBB, I think I am going to like you

Again I like you style.

[Get Real!]

GR, I expect nothing, I am free of ambitions. I am free! I was born a proletariat, I will die a proletariat. I am free of nationalism and full of internationalism. I am a citizen of the world ...

A truly evolved,self-realised human being...I salute you,dear Bananiot

Can all these…“Citizens of the world” kindly bugger off to their own country/kingdom thank you.

[Piratis]

Oracle, thank you for that link.

Unfortunately, as the post and it's replies point out, what is reliable?

Why should anything be simple and straightforward when we can explain it with a complicated conspiracy?

For years we have blamed everything on the Brits and the Yanks because of their self-interests, but when we do things out of self-interest (not condemning the invasion of Kuwait for 3 days because we had a good oil deal with Iraq, ignoring the Chinese actions in Tibet because they are on the UN Security Council and freinds of ours, etc.) we think it is OK.

Is this because our local press says so? I would definitely not consider them as a reliable source, but unfortunately many do. The rest believe what the TV news says, even less reliable expecially when the Cyprus Eurovision Song Contest entry is shown in it's entirety before news of the Chinese earthquake and the Burma typhoon (Myanmar if you like)!

CBBB, everything is quite simple and straight forward in the case of Cyprus: A small island in a strategic position that is important to world and regional powers who want to keep their troops on our island and control us, instead of simply allowing Cypriots to take the decisions for their own island in a democratic way.

About Kuwait I doubt that if there was a delay that was intentional.

About Tibet and China, there indeed we have to put our interests above what is right. Russia and China are the UN Security Council countries who are neutral and rather objective for the case of Cyprus and we definitely wouldn't want to alienate them when another two UN SC members (USA/UK) have direct interests on our island and have favored the Turks for many decades already.