halil wrote:Kikapu wrote:halil wrote:Kikapu ,
show me the article that i wrote and its says you quot.
Halil said "the north is Turkish, and that's where he lives".
Halil lives at Northern Cyprus since 1957 and it was a Turkish Cypriot village . Halil is a Turkish Cypriot and be proud of , what he is !!!
Halil I'm just saying what you wrote back when. I do not have the quote in front of me and I'm not going to search it. Perhaps you meant for it to sound something different than it came across, but I remember even DT questioning your statement at that time.
No one doubts you being a Turkish Cypriot and being proud of it either. I was trying to make some points to Bananiot.
But here is another quote you made, which was "the AP gave you everything that you wanted so that you can be your own
efendi in the north".
Is this one also wrong.??
This one is correct . still i am supporting the Annan plan or plans similar to annan.
it is true i would like to rule myself not someone can see me as minority.
Bananiots or DT knows me better than you .
With DT we talk many things and we discuss without blaming eachother .
İf you don't understand what i am saying you got to prove it and search for it .what you do is only ''Çamur at , izi galsın '' i don't give misinformation as you do Kikapu . How come every land in north belongs to Greek Cypriots and They are stolen land . Nothing we have .....
when the people says like this , you wanting me to shut my mouth . İ will not . İ will tell them all about the TC's villages at north before 74 and i will tell them how we were at enclave before 74 and what kind of the changes we did have after 74 . Which is very important for me , which you don't see it .
Doesn't mean we dont have to try to find better solution in Cyprus . İf i was thinking the way we are living is good enough , i will not say yes.
There is a differences between you and me , i am thing BBF solution in Cyprus .This is my choice . i do have respect to others ideas too . you should have mine too . İ belive this kind of the system will be better for Cypriots and i can see this system gets good support from most of the countries too .
No Halil, I do not give misinformation. Perhaps you do not remember what you wrote in the past, but don't blame others for remembering what they read.
No one said that there are no TC land in the North. There are TC land all over Cyprus, but you cannot deny that large majority of the land in the north belongs to the GC's, or do you think this is also a misinformation.??
Living in a country with different ethnic groups does not make one the masters and the others foreigners or minority in meaning second class citizens. We have 4 ethnic Swiss living in Switzerland ranging from 1%, 10%, 20% and 69%. Even the foreigners do not feel like second class as immigrants. This has to do with True Democracy and not undemocratic process. Every ones civil and Human rights are respected and are all treated same under the laws of Switzerland. The same can be done in Cyprus without division and partition.
I'm not against BBF if you read anything that I have written. I'm against BBF AP 2004 style that only creates more problems than it solves. You kind of AP got 76% "NO" from the GC's, therefore AP was not the solution, was it Halil.?? What one wishes and wants and what is a reality are two different things. I'm looking for the long term peace settlement between the GC's and the TC's and not short term "victory" by one community over the other.
Just like you, I want the best for the TC's, but it cannot come at the expense of others, otherwise we have not gained anything but problems later on. I do not respect "hidden agendas" by anyone who are only interested in wining one over the other community. I do not want this to be done by the GC's against the TC's and I do not this done by the TC's to the GC's. We need to have fresh and honest discussions during these settlement talks to get the results what most Cypriots can live with, otherwise it is only a matter of time before the war comes.
