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[miltiades]

It is wonderful debating with Cypriots (all the various flavours of them) where regardless of any evidence you put in front of them, black is still white.

Not suprising that we are unable to solve the problem!

Thats because we are not racists !!

[BirKibrisli]

Is CBBB new?

Sounds strangely familiar ....

I was going by the number of posts,Oracle...And the fact that I do not remember seeing that Nick before...I am sorry if I caused you more confusion than you might want...

[Kikapu]

You obviously don't have a clue of the TCs planning on returning once the problem is resolved.

One more thing. I don't know of any TCs here in the UK that don't already have a home in the TRNC as an investment/retirement home. Our numbers will drastically increase as soon as Christofias signs on the dotted line.

The only problem is, the majority of the TC's who has or are still building homes in the north, so that one day they will move back to Cyprus, are built on GC land because the land was bought on the cheap, because it was a "hot property". These will be the first people who stands to lose their investments and their dream retirement in the sun once a settlement is reached. Even if the GC's will not move back to their land, and are willing to sell it to the TC's or the British for that matter, are going to ask the full market rate and not the few hundred ££££££'s that was paid for on the "black market". Most wont be able to pay the market price for the GC land that their dream house was built on, and there goes their investments.

You may ask, that the TC's will sell their land in the south and pay the GC's in the north for the land that their dream home is now sitting on. That's fine if the GC owner is willing to part with his land, and secondly, most of the TC land in the south belonged to our grandparents, and if in the last 40+ years upon our grandparents dying, their land had not gone through probate or distributed to the children through a Will, it is going to take a very long time to sort out that mess considering most TC's have gotten "exchanged" land for theirs in the north. All the probate and Will proceedings needed to go through the RoC courts, and considering the north was closed off until 2003, I suspect not much has been done to pass on the TC properties to the heirs. The GC's on the other hand, have kept up with their land distribution and all the legal paper work necessary, even long after their grandparents have died. Their land has been passed on to their children and grand children.

No such luck for the TC's I'm afraid. Good luck in trying to get all the second and third generation of TC's to agree on how to distribute their land in the south amongst themselves. Therefore, I disagree with you, that many TC's will not move back once a solution is reached. If that was the case, they would have been already back. Those that will go back are the ones who are not holding any GC land at all or are willing to pay the market price, which will be worh more than the house they built on it.

What the Annan Plan 2004 had one of it's conditions, was that the price of GC land in the north was to be paid at the 1974 market rate. That would have saved the day for anyone who built their dream homes on GC land in the north at the expense of the GC owners. Somehow I do not believe the same will happen this time around. It is going to be full today's market rate or the GC owner will just retain their land.

[CBBB]

BirKibrisli there is no point in going into specifics as each post is true to it's author, whatever anyone else says,

Oracle I am new here, perhaps you know me from somewhere else.

I am also glad to hear we are not racists and I won't waste my time to post anything to the contrary, although I am sure I could find lots of propaganda from the press disputing our lack of bigotry.

[miltiades]

BirKibrisli there is no point in going into specifics as each post is true to it's author, whatever anyone else says,

Oracle I am new here, perhaps you know me from somewhere else.

I am also glad to hear we are not racists and I won't waste my time to post anything to the contrary, although I am sure I could find lots of propaganda from the press disputing our lack of bigotry.

We are the greatest nation on earth , both the T/Cs and the G/Cs have an abundance of common sense , family values and clear cut definitions of decency , self respect and integrity.

[Kikapu]

You might be right Kifeas, you might well be right. Division or partition doesn't have to be negotiated at all it can just come about as a result of jack-ass stubborness. I concede the point to you.

Contemplate this:

The Greek Cypriot people should stand by ETERNALLY if needed, to reclaim that which is rightfully THEIRS through a 10,000 year ANCESTRAL INHERITTANCE.

We know that Piratis, Kifeas, Sotos, Kikapu and lets say another 20 GCs on the forum subscribe to this idea.

Perhaps you can tell us what percentage of the general public would agree with you?

We know that Piratis, Kifeas, Sotos, Kikapu and lets say another 20 GCs on the forum subscribe to this idea.

Unitedwestand,

It is clear that you do not like these people you have mentioned above, and since you have not offered any reasons as to why not, I'm a little bit lost, considering your short time on the forum to have such opinions.

Since you seem to know who most of us are, then can you tell me what your thoughts are on these members

Miltiades, Get Real and DT from the GC side,

and,

Birkibrisli, Denizaksulu and Iceman from the TC side.

You honest opinion is most appreciated.!

[Bananiot]

I am not in the business of swearing at people Piratis. Just show me one post where I sworn at Papadopoulos or anyone else. I can show you numerous posts where friends of yours told me to F.O. and YOU just kept silent!

Of course we know that you have a peculiar idea of what democracy is all about. You also still think that the truth is a matter of statistics and you pressed this home on a number of occasions. Now that your point of view finds itself in the minority, you have suddenly stopped asking people to stop criticising the democratically elected President!

Papadopoulos has said on numerous occasions that he would negotiate the Cyprob on the basis of the Annan Plan. If you are prepared to negotiate it means, in every body's book, that you will be looking for solution and this is the reason you accept to negotiate.

Anyway, aren't we all glad Papadopoulos has left the scene! He made fools of us Cypriots in the international community to the point we would feel ashamed to say we were Cypriots. He made lying a profession and he even promised AKEL that he would never allow the right wing to form government again. This multi millionaire has made a mess of so many things the worse being he will let us now suffer from thirst because he not only fail to tackle the water issue but scandalously he dished out our precious water to the golf barons.

[Get Real!]

Anyway, aren't we all glad Papadopoulos has left the scene! He made fools of us Cypriots in the international community to the point we would feel ashamed to say we were Cypriots. He made lying a profession and he even promised AKEL that he would never allow the right wing to form government again. This multi millionaire has made a mess of so many things the worse being he will let us now suffer from thirst because he not only fail to tackle the water issue but scandalously he dished out our precious water to the golf barons.

What's the matter Bananiot, still complaining about the former president? Didn't get the promotion you expected during his term or was that a raise you missed out on?

I think both are very serious crimes punishable by a sizable chunk of Cyprus being ceded to Turkey… that should teach the naughty boy!

[Oracle]

BirKibrisli there is no point in going into specifics as each post is true to it's author, whatever anyone else says,

Oracle I am new here, perhaps you know me from somewhere else.

I am also glad to hear we are not racists and I won't waste my time to post anything to the contrary, although I am sure I could find lots of propaganda from the press disputing our lack of bigotry.

Sorry it must be Ceebeebees! ... the kids programmes on the BBC.

There is much propaganda to be had on all aspects, thanks to the Internet ..... but don't waste your time on anything other than "Credible Evidence" or you will have Get Real! making a storm in your tea-cup!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17747

[Bananiot]

GR, I expect nothing, I am free of ambitions. I am free! I was born a proletariat, I will die a proletariat. I am free of nationalism and full of internationalism. I am a citizen of the world ...