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[Eliko]

What's the weather like...... over there ?.

[Bill]

Bill, deeds, or shall I say clear title is unchanged as legislation. yes there will be reciprocity, since youv'e raised the point, it is likely that the government chooses to put itself in a position where in this case some negociations will arise from the question of ownership. it implies that there is land in the north which will not be recoverable, and as such the same will be suffered by some in the south. although we are making a lot of assumptions, since the title of this land (the particular example) is not directly known to us.

Thank you for your input ~ I can see what you are saying and I've thought the same that there will have to be be reciprocal agreements between the TC's and GC's over who owns what .

As always in life nothing is guaranteed and I must admit some of the young couples are getting worried if there is an eventual solution ~ they knew that with T Pap there was little chance but with the new guy it seems that there's more chance and they are quite worried that any possible solution wouldn't necessarily be in their favour .
Nobody knows exactly how a solution will be achieved and how it will affect the status qou ~ it's been 34 years with two more generations of refugees created ~ it's going to be a hell of a job to sort it out ~ and sadly it won't be to every body's satisfaction .

Prior to the last annan plan there was a huge increase in building in the north on GC land with the TC's trying to use as much GC land so they can to limit as much as possible it's return to GC ownership ~ the fact that most of the properties have been bought by foreigners naively thinking that they are ok with their trnc deeds and those deeds give them the right of ownership has further complicated the issue.

As I've commented before on this forum it's a mess ~ and a mess that's going to take a hell of a lot of sorting out ~ there is no simple solution.

By the way the title of who is the original owner of the land is not in question it was and to all intents still is Turkish Cypriot owned .

As a matter of opinion really don't think the EU is going to help much in a Cyprus solution and I can see the Cyprus government being forced into a solution it really doesn't want by a combination of UN and EU pressure.

Bill

[Bill]

What's the weather like...... over there ?.

In Canada ~~ I doubt it's as good as Cyprus.

Bill

[Sotos]

What changed since the 80s? The Turks still keep our lands. We have a lot of land in the occupied areas not just one plot. Do you think one refugee house they gave to the parents should be enough? What should the children do? Stay with their parents in that same house for ever?! We take no risk because everything we do is legal. The Turks are doing the illegalities and they are responsible for all these!

Sorry ~ two wrongs don't make it right .

The GC's made a promise that except for essential building work ie the airport and major road works which would have been requisitioned whether there was a Cyprus problem or not TC land and properties would remain in trust until a solution .

Are you saying that these young couples will give up their homes if there's a solution and return to the north ~ to start all over again .

Bill

Where did you see the two wrongs? What is wrong is that Turks stole our lands. That we are trying to continue our lives with what we have left is not wrong. When there is solution Turkey should give us back our homes and compensate us for keeping them illegally for 34 years as it was the ECHR ruling for Tititina Loizidou. With that compensation I can build 5 new homes on my own land or buy a home elsewhere!!

[Bill]

[Where did you see the two wrongs? What is wrong is that Turks stole our lands. That we are trying to continue our lives with what we have left is not wrong. When there is solution Turkey should give us back our homes and compensate us for keeping them illegally for 34 years as it was the ECHR ruling for Tititina Loizidou. With that compensation I can build 5 new homes on my own land or buy a home elsewhere!!

And will you be giving back to the TC's their homes to ~ you remind me of friend in one of the villages near Larnaca ~ she wants her home back in the occupied north but will not give up the TC home she has occupied as a refugee for the last 32 years ~ she recons that as she's lived in it for 32 years that's her's now also .

I think there's going to be a few very unhappy people if the solution is finally thrashed out .

Bill

[Sotos]

And will you be giving back to the TC's their homes to

As long as they compensate me for all the expenses I made for building it. If it wasn't for their illegal occupation then I would build my home on my own land. It is not my fault that they stole my land and they didn't let me build on it!!

[repulsewarrior]

What's the weather like...... over there ?.

in Quebec, it is 26 celsius at the moment. our spring is just about over, thank goodness the weather has been good to us, unlike our neighbours in the midwest of the USA.

In Nunavit, it is a comfortable 15C during the day. fishing, for artic char is great right now. bill, if you've got a spare three thousand euros, it is worth the trip.

[Bill]

What's the weather like...... over there ?.

in Quebec, it is 26 celsius at the moment. our spring is just about over, thank goodness the weather has been good to us, unlike our neighbours in the midwest of the USA.

In Nunavit, it is a comfortable 15C during the day. fishing, for artic char is great right now. bill, if you've got a spare three thousand euros, it is worth the trip.

I must admit it's a place I've always wanted to visit ~ America doesn't really appeal to me but Canada does ~ maybe one day

Bill

[repulsewarrior]

Canadians, live the "American dream", while Americans can only enjoy the benefits from it. As a Cultural Mosaic, rather than a Melting Pot we sustain our identities as Persons, while as Individuals we stand United as a People. The beer is much better too.