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Property in occupied north Cyprus – the facts

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Postby Nicosian » Fri May 23, 2008 2:13 pm

pantheman wrote:
tessintrnc wrote:It may be illegal, but plenty of Greek Cyps cross over to eat and shop every day. Do you want the borders closed again then?


Oh yes please. And I would shoot any B*gger who tried to cross over in either direction.

If the borders closed who do you think would suffer the most??

Go for it RoC, close them I dare you, and lets watch these theiving scumbags suffer some real isolation.


Been there, done that... 8)
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Postby Oracle » Fri May 23, 2008 2:14 pm

Actually, the RoC owns 100% of Cyprus.
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Postby Nicosian » Fri May 23, 2008 2:15 pm

Oracle wrote:Actually the RoC owns 100% of Cyprus.


CORRECTION! The RoC THINKS it owns 100% of Cyprus..
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Postby Kifeas » Fri May 23, 2008 2:22 pm

iceman wrote:on the subject of stolen properties...

I spent two hours this morning with my next door neighbour discussing property issue....
This man is from Mouttaigaika Limassol and has left a lot of property there...This morning he had in his hand a VERY large file which cost him €2500 recently.
The file was land evaluation report by a very reputable Limassol company who specialise on propert evaluation.
After an extensive professional research the value for his property in Mouttaigaika has been estimated (12 separate title deeds) as €47.440.000 (forty seven million four hundred and forty)
Most of his land has been developed by ROC government,some of his land,(bang on the beachfront) has been turned into places like "Kyrenia Sailing Club" another one has been used to build a restaurant for some other association..
To sum it all up,he has the title deeds for property estimated at nearly €50million but all his land has been used by ROC for this or that excuse...


talk about stolen property :evil: :evil: :evil:


Iceman, stop misleading those reading the forum! You know dumb well that we are not talking about the same thing! No matter what was build in the properties of your neighbor, the ownership (title deeds) are still in his name! There is nothing stopping him to cross south, live here for 6 months, and then claim every piece of property to be returned to him. No one has stolen his land, he is recognized as the owner of all of it, and in any case in which the government may legally expropriate any part of it, (there are laws determine when a government has the right to expropriate private property,) he will be compensated for its full value at the time of the expropriation! Tell me now if this is the case with GC properties in the north? Can I come in the north, be allowed to live for 6 months there, and then claim all my properties in Lapithos and Karavas to be returned to me? First of all, Turkey which occupies the area, doesn’t even recognize I am the owner! Did you read the so-called constitution of the “TRNC,” that Turkey established illegally in the occupied areas? Do you know what it says in there, regarding GC properties? The theft is even admitted and documented in the most cynical way, in the very constitution which you chose to abide by in the north! Read it first, and then come here to tell us if the two situations are in any close to be the same or similar!
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Postby Oracle » Fri May 23, 2008 2:23 pm

Nicosian wrote:
Oracle wrote:Actually the RoC owns 100% of Cyprus.


CORRECTION! The RoC THINKS it owns 100% of Cyprus..



It thinks, therefore it does! ...... as well as exist :wink:

Erratum:
The whole World thinks the RoC owns 100% of Cyprus!
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Postby halil » Fri May 23, 2008 2:23 pm

İ think puntoman is a contractor too . he build up on stolen Turkish Cypriots properties at Paphos , Limassol and Larnaka ...thats why he screems all the time and he scares to pass from the boarder .they will get him . to show him who is thives or who are theiving .
bravo iceman show them who got your homes in Limassol .
they attacts rosenandchan that her land and home is in 100 % Turkish Cypriot land .
don't scare roseandchan more of you well come to our lands . They can come and settle without fear . we have every rights to do at our side . who cares what the roc says. it does not apply for us .these villages are Turkish Cypriot villages .(Dağyolu,Göçeri, Pınarbaşı,Kömürcü,Ağırdağ,Boğaz,Gönyeli ,Ortaköy.hamitköy) too many houses are on sale now .
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Re: Property in occupied north Cyprus – the facts

Postby Kifeas » Fri May 23, 2008 2:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Q Who owns the land and properties in occupied north Cyprus?
A Approximately 90 percent is owned by Greek Cypriots. It is most likely that any property being touted belongs to Greek Cypriot refugees, who according to UN resolutions have the right to return, but for the time being are prevented from doing so.

http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/


Even though the rest of things mentioned in “Get Real's” post, are all correct, the above percentage claim is wrong! Only about 61% of the land in the occupied north of Cyprus legally belongs to the GCs. About 16% legally belongs to the TCs, and the remaining 23% is state owned land legally belonging to the Republic of Cyprus!

The RoC does not belong only to the GC community, but it collectively belongs to all the real citizens of the country, including the real members of the TC community -excluding the illegal settlers from Turkey!
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Postby Oracle » Fri May 23, 2008 2:33 pm

Yeah!
Even Turkey thinks the RoC owns 100% of Cyprus

... otherwise why would it station 40,000 troops to stop them having access to what is legitimately RoC property.
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Postby halil » Fri May 23, 2008 2:39 pm

to make you write everyday same thing
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Postby iceman » Fri May 23, 2008 2:46 pm

Kifeas wrote:
iceman wrote:on the subject of stolen properties...

I spent two hours this morning with my next door neighbour discussing property issue....
This man is from Mouttaigaika Limassol and has left a lot of property there...This morning he had in his hand a VERY large file which cost him €2500 recently.
The file was land evaluation report by a very reputable Limassol company who specialise on propert evaluation.
After an extensive professional research the value for his property in Mouttaigaika has been estimated (12 separate title deeds) as €47.440.000 (forty seven million four hundred and forty)
Most of his land has been developed by ROC government,some of his land,(bang on the beachfront) has been turned into places like "Kyrenia Sailing Club" another one has been used to build a restaurant for some other association..
To sum it all up,he has the title deeds for property estimated at nearly €50million but all his land has been used by ROC for this or that excuse...


talk about stolen property :evil: :evil: :evil:


Iceman, stop misleading those reading the forum! You know dumb well that we are not talking about the same thing! No matter what was build in the properties of your neighbor, the ownership (title deeds) are still in his name! There is nothing stopping him to cross south, live here for 6 months, and then claim every piece of property to be returned to him. No one has stolen his land, he is recognized as the owner of all of it, and in any case in which the government may legally expropriate any part of it, (there are laws determine when a government has the right to expropriate private property,) he will be compensated for its full value at the time of the expropriation! Tell me now if this is the case with GC properties in the north? Can I come in the north, be allowed to live for 6 months there, and then claim all my properties in Lapithos and Karavas to be returned to me? First of all, Turkey which occupies the area, doesn’t even recognize I am the owner! Did you read the so-called constitution of the “TRNC,” that Turkey established illegally in the occupied areas? Do you know what it says in there, regarding GC properties? The theft is even admitted and documented in the most cynical way, in the very constitution which you chose to abide by in the north! Read it first, and then come here to tell us if the two situations are in any close to be the same or similar!


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I am not misleading anyone....You know damn well what i am talking about..The properties are still in the name of this man but they have been developed by the state and he will never get them back and don't tell me they will pay him for it because that will never happen.

You know damn well ROC deliberately hand picked TC properties after 1974 to expropriate & develop....

ROC legalized looting TC properties in south and Turkey is looking for ways to legalize looting of GC properties in the north...

I am against looting of properties in any part of Cyprus,be it GC property in the north or TC property in the south!!
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